headers, footers, word count
Posted By: Lisa on 2008-01-17
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I am an newbie IC and just started a new Dr. when I realized that MS word does not count headers and footers with word count. Any way you can include headers/footers in the word count or do you have to count it all separately and then add them together?
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I tried Slycount and it didnt count the text in headers and footers
I tried Slycount and it didn't count the text in headers and footers after the 1st page. Apparently its a problem with upgraded versions of MS word 2003 and there isn't a fix yet for this problem. If you don't use headers and footers than its a good program. I currently use Spellex AccuCount and its great :). I believe they have a free trial on there website. I Hope this helps :)
Is it customary to count headers/footers in this business when doing line counts? Thanks. nm
headers and footers
I just read in the MPCount info that it does not count headers and footers. Is that a bad sign?
Not OP, but I get paid for headers and footers.
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And most often headers, footers, & copies are not
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most companies don't pay for headers, footers, cc. (nm)
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Want to get paid for headers, footers and spaces?
Just in a silly mood.... 
11 cpl, 65 line w/spaces. No headers/footers except
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Usually it's the software not counting headers/footers, or any of the
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I would say that if you are typing headers and footers for free, i.e. not getting paid for them,
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11-1/2 cpl, 65 ccl, all spaces, headers, footers, etc. NE part of country. nm
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Headers and Footers can carry on to the rest of the pages.
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Not included. Demos and ccs are headers/footers. Not counted. nm
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Oh absolutely! I would get 9 or 10 lines of headers and footers per report on Cottage. sm
So, if you do the math, if I typed 25 reports that day, that makes a total of 250 LINES I no longer get paid for! I truly believe DQS is just a sneaky, smart way that MQ has come up with in order to squeeze line counts and money from under us. Think about it. It is!!! No doubt in my mind, ladies!!
I want to quit to freakin bad this DQS crap! I am making so much more LESS money on DQS it isn't even funny. We should really smarten up about this program.
Also, how about the way you have to look up cc's and addressess and then put it into that stupid ADT field and then you DON'T GET PAID FOR IT!! MAKES ME SICK!
Okay. Done ranting and raving for the day! Let me go look for another job right now.
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could be short reports and getting paid for headers/footers in a 10-hour day.
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I stand corrected. Sorry, did not mean to say gross. Rather, 65 cpl with spaces, headers, footers.
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Maybe if it is gross lines, lots of headers and footers and normals......sm
Other than that, I really can't imagine it.
9 cpl, 65 characters per line, spaces, headers, footers included. employee status. nm
Offered a position paying 9 cents per 65 line without spaces with headers and footers.
Is this a good deal?
the properties stats still do not count headers.
Do a test to prove it. Type one word in the document and one word in the header and you will only see a count for the word in the body of the document.
It absolutely is a way to cut an MT's line count since most companies don't pay for headers,
footers, and anything in the template. This one of the BIG reasons why I decided to give up working for the nationals. I bit the bullet and went back to work in the office for a while and then finally I found a job with a hospital that allows me to work at home, pays me hourly plus incentive, and doesn't try to cheat me out of my line count.
I just always felt like I was working my rear end off lining the pockets of the MTSO's while they nickeled and dimed me to death!
That's my 0.02 cents worth!
If Word, headers are always spellchecked unless you
mark that text for no proofing in your language setting.
why on 1 computer for the same report would the word count be different in Word? (inside)
Like on 1 computer with word the document was 27000 character counts w/spaces
and the other computer (the one i type this account on says 13,000. How can there be such a difference with Word being the same? I am baffled.
Calculating lines using Word Count in Word
I have recently started a job where lines are calculated using the Microsoft Word word count tool. I think I read that you get cheated out of lines if a company counts this way. Is this true?
In Word 2007, you can add Word count to the status bar.
Right-click the status bar and select Word count. Once it appears on the status bar, you can double-click it to bring up the statistics dialog box that shows characters. You can also find this option on the Review tab, Proofing group, Word Count.
Word count: 824 lines. DocuCount count: 897 lines.
I just counted the same file in Word and then in DocuCount, and DocuCount was higher than Word.
Just as an aside.
Word Count
If you use the Word count tool to calculate characters and then divide by 65 or whatever your company uses for this, it is fairly accurate. However, if you are calculating just *lines* with this tool, please keep in mind that it counts ALL lines, including blank lines between paragraphs, etc. This is probably what the poster below has experienced. It is not accurate for counting just lines.
Did you use the word count (m)
in Word that is under properties where it lists "word count", "line count", etc.? It doesn't look like it's completely accurate if you go by that line count. Or did you go by character count? Maybe that's more accurate?
If you are using word, it will count your
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Word line count
The company I IC for told me to use the word count in the Word, divide the characters with spaces by 65 to get my line count. Are you guys saying that this is not accurate? The owner is a very honest person, so if this is not accurate, I'm sure she does not know it. I think this is how she bills her clients as well.
line count in word
Use the characters with spaces count and divide by 65.
How can you count your lines in Word, I used
to use the word count in Word and then divide it by something to get a standard line count for that report. Has anyone done this before? I forgot the way to calculate when working in Word.
I use both DQS & Word and avg about the same line count.
Two separate part time accounts. I really don't see much difference.
line count in word
 Microsoft word line count - what is the name of it and where can I buy it. Also,on a dictaphone, how can i tell how many minutes of dictation i have left.
Word line count
This is what i actually meant. i get paid per gross line and i need to figure out how many lines i am typing per day. someone told me there is a program for that
Do numbers how up in MS Word Count
Hi. Does anyone know if number characters show up as word count in MS Word? I'm doing a lot of them in tables, etc. as well as a lot of symbols. Just curious.
Thanks,
Terry
Word count program
I have an older model puter that is slowly going up and have word 97 count program on it. I am looking for something that is compatible with that - that also does all headers and footers - not just the header and footer on the first page that I can put on my new puter. I have checked in to SPellex and that is really slow counting. I also checked in to Abacus, which was fast and pretty accurate; it actually gave me a little more on a few of my reports as a trial run. ANyone have any ideas on this. Thanks for any help.
Not 30%...use your word count funtion
under tools. Take the number w/o spaces and divide by 65. That will give you the line count. Then take the number with spaces and divide by 65. You will see that the difference is more like 20%. So making .12 a line w/o is great! Wish I could find a work that paid that.
Even different versions of Word count the same, so it's not that either. nm
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So do they let you get your own line count using Word or
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Line Count in Word
 I am an IC and will be starting with a new client this week. Can someone tell me how to get an accurate line count in Word? I know that have a word/line count in Tools, but I have found that it is not accurate (it usually gives you more lines than you actually typed). I don't want to cheat anyone, so I am hoping someone can tell me how to get an accurate line count. Thanks in advance for your help. Trish
Line count in word
Depends if you are counting gross or cpl. The gross does count the blank lines but it is an accurate line count. You can even put on the numbers to show you that it is. You can do this under file and page set up. You can also do to sections only. But you can also take characters with spaces and divide by 65 or whatever character line you are charging. Other than that you can buy a program that works. When I used a program I liked Sylcount as you could set it up to count twice for a capital letter,bold, underline, etc. And you are using two characters to do that. But it takes a while to get used to and time is money, so I told my docs I was sticking with gross lines, lower rate and easier and less time to count and so we all agreed. They are happy, I am happy.
Line Count in Word
Thanks very much. Very helpful. I love this board -- I get so many answers to questions I have! Thanks again.
I have an account that I use Word Count
I highlight the entire document and take the line count by my line rate. They pay it. It's not cheating. It depends on what was set up with the client. I have another client that I take the total number of characters, divide by 65, and then multiply by my line rate. This is another way that is not cheating. Word Count can be accurate if used properly. It does not cheat. I've compared my line counts with someone who has a line counting program and it came out to be the same.
Word line count
I check my Word line count against my employer's every few days or so. While you're in Word go up to Tools, Word Count. My pay is supposedly 65 cpl with spaces too, so I divide the word count that says with spaces by 65. I just did a report with 12,722 characters wtih spaces by my count. I just checked their count by dividing that number by 65 and my count was 195.72. On their counting it is 196.
No, I do not have Word, Just Works that does not count spaces.
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Regular vs Extended word count.
Regular Word Count uses the MS word original module to count words (with or without spaces) etc. On the other hand, Extended word count uses the MTStars FlashCount built in own module, the difference between two lies within the supported document types. Extended Word Count supports more document types than Regular Word Count.
If you are using Flash Count for MS-Word documents only, Regular word count is the preferred method.
In Word you take the line count with spaces SM
and divide it by 65. That will give you your line count. So, if my report had 11,700 characters with spaces, that would equal 180 lines. Multiple 180 lines x. 0.11 (your cost per line) and that would equal $19.80 for that particular report.
Good luck!
Chickadee
luv2type-line count in word
Thanks for your help! I'm in Ohio about 1 hour from pittsburgh. they're are a lot of docs here though. does it sound good to try and negotiate and start at a higher rate and then drop down a bit? Also does using your line count in word work pretty good for you. Do you not find the need to get a separate counter? Thanks so much for your help!
I used my word count function and got closer to 15.5%
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...count instead, or raising your word rate. nm
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