foreign med school gradutes take separate board exams..nm
Posted By: FYI on 2008-01-16
In Reply to: Get your facts straight - Shannon
which are different than American med school grads. There was an article in The NY Times indicating that new regulations are being pushed that would require foreign med school graduates to take a two-part board exam to practice medicine here, with one part of the exam being English proficiency. Hmmm..that should be interesting. I don't think you have all of your facts straight.
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
What for? 95% of us ARE geezers - no need for a separate geezer board!
x
Hey rimrods!!! He fully disclosed he was foreign, it was foreign
trying to catch him telling lies when he already told you he was. Really smart people around here. Call names, insult, tell everyone to leave and go to another site and then wonder why your posts are being deleted. At least he's not feeding everyone a load of CRAP about offshoring. He simply told the truth.
POLL: Home School vs. Charter School vs. Public School vs. Priv ate School...
Pros and cons of each too. I have two little ones that will be starting school soon and I would like opinions on all. Thanks in advance! :)
It sounds to me like she needs to talk with the principal or school board.
The school CERTAINLY should have rules about this kind of thing. I don't remember my parents coming to school unless there was a problem. Other than that, unless the teacher requests help with a party or something special, the parents don't belong there and the school should step up for your daughter.
Rad exams
I have heard of these 100+ reports in an 8-hr day. I work on 2 different a/c's with 2 different methods of calculating lines. I do many MRI/CTs that are 40-50 lines or more. Interventionals are 100+ lines. 70-80 reports constitutes about 1700-1800 gross lines. No one on the a/c's I work on types more than 100 reports in a day - and these are top-notch MTs. I am waiting to work on an a/c where people type 150 reports a day - simply because I want to see what these reports are like.
Here's the scoop on the RMT and CMT exams...
From what I understand, the RMT is an entry level test which means nothing basically. My employer doesn't pay anything for it. However, we get a dollar an hour raise for passing the CMT, which is worth roughly 2000 dollars a year for me, so as useless as people like to say it is, would you take 2000 dollars or say "no thanks." I know many employers pay nothing for it, in which case I wouldn't pursue it, but since mine does, I will probably try to pass it in the next year or so. I hear the pass rate is abysmally low, which makes me wonder what is up with that.
Exams Dictated But Not Done
I transcribe for a local multispecialty clinic and have seen many of my own reports. It just gripes my butt when the doctor dictates a standard physical exam and I know for a fact that he/she hasn't even touched me. Did not check my heart, lungs, abdomen, neuro, extremities, etc. The only things that are legit are the vital signs. It's like if I come in for a sore throat he looks at my throat but nothing else. My fibromyalgia clinic NP only talks to me - no exam at all - yet she dictates an exam, review of systems (that we didn't even talk about). She will say conjunctivae and lids are clear; PERLA, etc., and she hasn't even gotten within 6 feet of my eyes. This just doesn't seem right. And when you have labs or other tests, they NEVER call you back with the results. My PCP never suggests any preventive testing - I have to ask for it myself. I know they're not all like that but my eyes are opened much wider than they used to be. It's all about getting it done in under 15 minutes and on to the patient in the next room.
Does the state pay for exams, or is
this out of your pocket???
I read that about the college exams! sm
I don't think my son will have a problem. He wants to be a pharmacist. I've tried to talk him out of it and have tried to have him concentrate on his writing.
He has written several stories that have won awards.
Pharmacists are being held up at gunpoint for OxyContin. Scares the jeez out of me!
Oh well, you gotta let them choose what they want to do for a career unless they decide to deal drugs instead of dispense them legally. 
5-10 of each a day with 2 others on acct doing 350-400 exams daily
Works out good if you are paid by exam which I hope you are.
We have three tiers, after 700 exams a week. 1.46/exam
We are happy with this, at least I am.
Don't have a favorite but HATE opthalmology. Everything about it, exams, ops, just everything! nm
nm
The first thing I think of is independent medical exams. NM
x
Physical fitness exams DO NOT require
breast exams. We are required to have them for school before certain grades in our state, and never do they do breast or GYN exams on kids.
Well, was thinking people were not going to doctor's appt or scheduling exams.
dd
I did that with 2 kids with time mgmt and a high school girl who babysat 3 days a week after school
nm
The cost of running a private school or any school is expensive....
Why do you think public schools are so run down and can't find good teachers? Because the government and people to not put forth the effort or $$$$ to improve the educational system.
foreign....
Oh, boo hoo! Those foreigners learn our language so they can take our jobs and our money, you numbskull. They aren't here to help us. They take advantage of our laws which actually seem to favor foreigners over citizens, especially if the foreigners are "minorities." (An interesting term since the only true minority in this world is white people. About 85% of the world's population is non-white.)
People like you who think you are so tolerant, are part of the problem. In this country we would all be learning Chinese if the situations were reversed and China was the country with the open door policy and all the wealth.
BTW, I lived and worked in Latin America and learned Spanish BEFORE I went there - I didn't expect the people of Colombia to pay to have everything I needed translated into my own language, which is precisely what these foreigners who come here to leech off us expect.
I'm an MT....slavery is not foreign to me.
Whatever it takes.
foreign docs
And why do a lot of those same ones who speak such poor English also make no sense in putting together their sentences? I have several that sound like they are clenching their teeth together and straining to get the words out which makes it even worse. I know exactly what you mean. Their oughta be a LAW! 
Those foreign guys
Yeah, we've all had our share of "those" guys. I worked in Radiology for a Spanish guy for about two years. He thought his English was perfect, so anytime there were blanks he went off of his latino-rocker. So I finally get this guy "nailed" where I can transcribe his reports just as fast as the others, and then what happens.. ? I lose the stinkin' account to VR! So he still sends me work on occasion and guess what .... he's crystal clear NOW, and why? Voice Recognition doesn't DO gibberish ... it trained HIM! HA! (Course he has to speak slowly now, losing lots of "billable hours" And of course, they had to hire an Editor to clean up the reports, punctuate, and correct his English.) Go figure! ');>![](https://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/sowhat.gif")
Seriously, though, if you can't stay with that ESL day-in and day-out for at least a month, you will never get him. Why companies bombard MT's with different docs from day-to-day is just beyond me. If QA were REALLY that important, they wouldn't do that.
You all are talking foreign to me
I have ShortHand and love it, but you left me way behind. A Shorthand course would be great.
isn't SPI a foreign company
Maybe you could work for them. They bought out Cymed.
foreign dictators
Wow, you sound so full of hate!!!Do you even know how difficult it is to learn another language? Have you ever tried to speak another language?
I don't particularly care for ESL's but...
foreign dictators!!
From one blondie to another--I couldn't agree with you more!
Drives me crazy, not to mention my so-called "productivity!"
What does the site being down have to do with foreign MTs?
Bonus from OJT - foreign dictators. (sm)
I learned OJT in a small hospital with a PDR, Dorlands and a boss with an attitude from &*^%&*^. There were only about 7 doctors on staff, 4 of which were foreign. I started off learning to cope with a Thai accent in a physician who had had a speech defect, a Nigerian, a Swede and a Czech. It was a painstaking way to learn, but I am greatful every day that accents have become a way of life for me. I almost prefer them to some of those mealy-mouthed speed demons.
I can remember cursing when they would say "Go back up and change this". Just rip that paper out of the typewriter and start again.
My children can't imagine a time before computers. Will have to take them to a museum someday and show them what life used to be like.
It's not the foreign workers who are at fault sm
The fault lies with the big US corporations who are the greedy SOBs that have outsourced the jobs so they can save billions over what they would pay workers in the US.
So, to be rude to and cuss out these working people is not going to get us anywhere. What we should do is boycott the corporations who are sending the work overseas. Maybe if they lose enough business they will get smart to themselves and bring the jobs back to the US workers.
I don't do foreign-speaking docs....
Either they speak English and speak it clearly or they don't have me for their transcriptionist. I'll be danged if I'm going to spend 15 minutes trying to figure out their dictation because they "don't speekee English," or they dont' want to take the time to speak it clearly. Let an MT who doesn't value their time or money transcribe for them! Some may think that's heartless, but that's just the way it is. I'm in this business to make money, not coddle docs who can and refuse to speak straight.
First Job, given only foreign dictators, and never the same. Doing allright, however, should I look
  This is my first job, and I am never given the same dictator. Also, this is hospital work with basically any kind of reports. Only doing about 200 lines a day for 6 cents. Should I look for another job???
Focus stands for Foreign
Focus is an Indian company, you know. Most who have been there were not happy, and many MTs only go there because they are fresh out of school and find it hard to get the experience they need. Just FYI.
I do have a 2nd job with US owned co. that I love. Foreign
s
It's shameful if the new owner is foreign but
65e4
IF I WENT TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO WORK
This is NOT racisim. This is plain common sense and courtesy.
Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
are different than U.S. Father said "no body, no crime" because he knows in their system if they have no body, they have no crime. Therefore, they have to find a body...or they can't prosecute for murder.... Their laws, not ours. That is what it is when you travel outside the country, you are under the foreign country's laws.. Really too bad but that is how it is.
I think the foreign kid adoptions are liberal Hollywood
I don't think these kids are anything more than a fashion accessory/photo op for these phonies. I'm sure she and the other "stars" who adopt these kids for whatever attention/approval-seeking reasons have a full staff on hand 24/7 to take care of the kids when the cameras aren't rolling.
I doubt Angelina's ever been vomited on or crapped on (at least not by her kids anyway).
It's the topic of the moment. You must be in a foreign country maybe.
There was a catastrophic hurricane with a devastating flood afterwards! A disaster of biblical proportions! Many people lost their homes, the worldly positions, billions of dollars in loss. Lives were lost, the poor, the elderly and the infirmed. We watched it on the news (it was on here in the U.S. around the clock). Try www.cnn.com for all the details.
I think MTSO should inquire of foreign docs if they want their
Like it should be standard practice for transcription services to require hospitals to ask------------------
Dr. Pammmmbogmamajama - would you like your dictation to go to India. Check YES or NO.
Dr. Filiyambo - would you like your dictation to go to PHILIPPINES. Check YES or NO.
Dr. MacIntiremeout - would you like your dictation to go to IRELAND. Check YES or NO.
Dr. Chinese - would you like your dictation to go to CHINA. Check YES or NO (we have to know they are creating offices in Shanghi as we speak)
Hey, I can deal with "the boys" from home. But I'm sick and tired of feeling like I chose the wrong profession and should be working in the State Department as translator and should certainly be drawing down lots more salary and getting a WHOLE lot more respect. 
That way we could keep the English dictation in the United States and have it being done by people who have English as their first language.
Ha! Those jobs they'll just import the foreign PhD on
on one of those work visas as they do nurses and teachers. Pay 'em less and put another American out of work.
Wake up, America! No job is safe any more.
Do you charge more for foreign-speaking doctors? nm
*
really?? Worse than the offshore foreign transcriptionists?
That's odd.
venting re foreign patient names
I just typed a long report where the patient has some weird foreign name so it's difficult to tell gender. The doc dictates as a male throughout, i.e. he, his etc. At the end changes it to a female. 
Tired of these low class foreign doctors
They live here but they cannot learn the language. Most should not be here in the first place. They were admitted to medical school with the proviso that they return to their own countries to work as doctors and help their own people; they got all these fancy or free grants to pay for their schooling; American citizens were pushed aside to fulfill the foreign student enrollment requirements for medical school to "help the needy countries health problems". Then they got dollar signs in their eyes. They refused to learn how to talk. They are arrogant, sloppy, nasty, and are too mentally compromised to even learn how to push the right buttons to enter patient numbers into systems. What pigs!!!!!!!!!!! And they expect perfection? I think we should sign every report off with a blurb saying unable to understand dictator, please return him/her to his own country.
are you working for third world foreign doctors?
This has been my experience.
TransTech does this group, too. Awful foreign residents! nm
s
I was living in a foreign country with my parents, probably getting ready for
elementary school. Didn't even know who he was. I don't remember my parents mentioning it, but it was shortly after that when the stupid joke about "What would it take to reunite the Beatles?" came out.
My company foreign owned but they have US office people
p
Site was foreign built from the beginning..just listed at top only for US
NM
True! Computer techs are all foreign. Used to be a good-
still have a tech job are usuallyh IC's, with no job security and no benefits. Lots of computer and microchip manufacturing jobs, that spawned the 'Silicon Valley' in California have gone offshore. Now even radiologists have to worry about their jobs, as some places send the x-rays digitally to Philippines to be read.
What I'd like to know is.... What exactly is going to be LEFT in the United States for US to do? Gas station attendant? Nope... most are self-serve, unless you live in Oregon. Wal-Mart Greeter? Hmm... not old enough (or retired enough) for that. Farm worker? Nope. Mexicans have cornered that market. Waitress? Nope. Lots of eat-in restaurants going belly-up these days. Typesetter? Nope. Newspapers are going extinct. Web designer? Nope. Most people can design their own nowadays. Retail? Same as the restaurants. Teacher? Whoa - talk about an underpaid profession! Nurse? Another underpaid one. Not a good choice for us work-at-home recluses. Truck driver? One of the few jobs where they need people, but to make ends meet these days you have to pretty much live in your truck. Flight attendant? Not a good choice for us recluses who hate to fly. Rap artist? Pretty saturated field. Hair stylist? I don't even comb my OWN hair most of the time, and haven't cut it in years. So I'd be pretty useless unless someone with long hair wanted a French braid. Chef or short-order cook? Not if you only cook TV dinners. (Does that count as cooking?) Dog-walker? Nah - I'm a cat-person. Bike-messenger? In my town, most of em don't live very long. You never see middle-aged bike messengers. Taxi-driver? Nope - the Sikhs have cornered that market. Executive secretary? (What? Go back to wearing heels and pantyhose? NEVER!)
The School of Hard Knocks is the best MT school
n
I would have to separate by category!
first 3 that come to mind are: The Notebook, Hope Floats and Sweet Home Alabama (SHA didn't get rave reviews, but I just loved that movie!)
ET, Titanic and Forrest Gump are like classics and you HAVE to love them!
Independence Day, MIB, most of the Marvel (comics) movies, Van Helsing and both Underworlds top my list too!
Oh, and then there is the animated stuff... the list is never ending! (and we own over 400 DVDs!)
|
