extended word count counts spaces. nm
Posted By: abbe on 2005-09-26
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Regular vs Extended word count.
Regular Word Count uses the MS word original module to count words (with or without spaces) etc. On the other hand, Extended word count uses the MTStars FlashCount built in own module, the difference between two lies within the supported document types. Extended Word Count supports more document types than Regular Word Count.
If you are using Flash Count for MS-Word documents only, Regular word count is the preferred method.
No, I do not have Word, Just Works that does not count spaces.
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In Word you take the line count with spaces SM
and divide it by 65. That will give you your line count. So, if my report had 11,700 characters with spaces, that would equal 180 lines. Multiple 180 lines x. 0.11 (your cost per line) and that would equal $19.80 for that particular report.
Good luck!
Chickadee
In Word, take the character count (with spaces) divided by 65... SM
that will give you an accurate line count, but you'll have to write the character count down for each and every report before you finish and send the report. I put a button on my tool bar that I just clicked to bring up the document counts and then I just kept a log that wrote down job number and character count for each report. Then at the end of the day just add up the characters divide by 65 and you've got your line count for the day. Kind of a hassle, but worth it in the long run.
it does not count gross lines...I count 37 and it counts 67.
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Both 65 characters per line -- one counts spaces, one doesn't NM
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DQS does count spaces
DQS counts everything on your text page including spaces. However, it does not count anything imported into the ADT field. It does count anything the MT types into the ADT field.
My problem with your post is that your office actually reduced your line rate because they said you would be making more money? That is really messed up. Here's why: Even though many ADT fields are autopopulated, these are characters we would normally get paid for. We still have to listen through the dictator giving the information, information I was able to type in no time and get paid for it. Then there are the times we have to do searches and sometimes be very creative with the searches and sometimes have to sift through multiple admissions to be sure we have the right selection. Then there are the times the doctor keys in data for the wrong admission and we have to recognize and fix.
Therefore, this simple ADT field and the fact we do not get paid for it, IMO, takes away whatever production assets the program offers. I have been on DQS for a year and am lucky to produce the same as I was on my old platform. Since I know everything in the text field is counted, the only reason I can figure is the ADT field.
Any MT who was cut back in pay when put on DQS should absolutely be upset because I don't think anyone's production has really been increased that substantially.
DQS does count spaces, but you definitely deserve the 1/2 cent increase.
Chartscript.net does not count spaces. nm
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Gross line count without spaces?
I've been corresponding with an MTSO, and she tells me that she pays gross line without spaces. Is there such a thing? I have both Abacus and MPCount, and neither of those programs has an option to count gross lines without spaces. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! 
Need to count gross lines only w/o spaces, sm
Used Sylcount free download but it expired. Any alternatives. Did not like Practicount. Need to count gross lines only. How do I do that using MS Word?
Is it customary to count headers/footers in this business when doing line counts? Thanks. nm
0.12/cpl, macros count as 2 characters, backspacing is given to us as 1 character. No spaces. Aut
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Someone told me that basically it mean without spaces so I guess that makes sense if your only count
6 character counts as a word
What would that calculate to be? Thanks for your help. I do not know many companies that pay by the word. I guess I will just have to see what my first pay check looks like. Thanks!
why on 1 computer for the same report would the word count be different in Word? (inside)
Like on 1 computer with word the document was 27000 character counts w/spaces
and the other computer (the one i type this account on says 13,000. How can there be such a difference with Word being the same? I am baffled.
Also, you can't use Word for correct line counts
It doesn't deduct headers, footers, formatting commands. Extext line count deducts those depending on company setup.
Calculating lines using Word Count in Word
I have recently started a job where lines are calculated using the Microsoft Word word count tool. I think I read that you get cheated out of lines if a company counts this way. Is this true?
In Word 2007, you can add Word count to the status bar.
Right-click the status bar and select Word count. Once it appears on the status bar, you can double-click it to bring up the statistics dialog box that shows characters. You can also find this option on the Review tab, Proofing group, Word Count.
Open up a few things in word and get the line counts for an average. Think it might be around 40
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Word counts the blank lines between paragraphs unless you change
your paragraph style to double space when you hit enter. You need to change the "after" setting in the spacing section of the paragraph dialog box to the point size of the font you are using and click the Default button. You'll probably want to do this in a separate template unless you want this setting for all new documents.
That only flags spaces as an error. You cannot set Word to
automatically space for you. Replace is good, but watch out for values and things like Mr. when you do that.
Word supposedly counts 10% higher than most "regular" line counting
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That only tells the grammar checker to flag spaces. Word does not auto space.
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Word count: 824 lines. DocuCount count: 897 lines.
I just counted the same file in Word and then in DocuCount, and DocuCount was higher than Word.
Just as an aside.
Word Count
If you use the Word count tool to calculate characters and then divide by 65 or whatever your company uses for this, it is fairly accurate. However, if you are calculating just *lines* with this tool, please keep in mind that it counts ALL lines, including blank lines between paragraphs, etc. This is probably what the poster below has experienced. It is not accurate for counting just lines.
Did you use the word count (m)
in Word that is under properties where it lists "word count", "line count", etc.? It doesn't look like it's completely accurate if you go by that line count. Or did you go by character count? Maybe that's more accurate?
If you are using word, it will count your
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Word line count
The company I IC for told me to use the word count in the Word, divide the characters with spaces by 65 to get my line count. Are you guys saying that this is not accurate? The owner is a very honest person, so if this is not accurate, I'm sure she does not know it. I think this is how she bills her clients as well.
line count in word
Use the characters with spaces count and divide by 65.
How can you count your lines in Word, I used
to use the word count in Word and then divide it by something to get a standard line count for that report. Has anyone done this before? I forgot the way to calculate when working in Word.
I use both DQS & Word and avg about the same line count.
Two separate part time accounts. I really don't see much difference.
line count in word
 Microsoft word line count - what is the name of it and where can I buy it. Also,on a dictaphone, how can i tell how many minutes of dictation i have left.
Word line count
This is what i actually meant. i get paid per gross line and i need to figure out how many lines i am typing per day. someone told me there is a program for that
Do numbers how up in MS Word Count
Hi. Does anyone know if number characters show up as word count in MS Word? I'm doing a lot of them in tables, etc. as well as a lot of symbols. Just curious.
Thanks,
Terry
Word count program
I have an older model puter that is slowly going up and have word 97 count program on it. I am looking for something that is compatible with that - that also does all headers and footers - not just the header and footer on the first page that I can put on my new puter. I have checked in to SPellex and that is really slow counting. I also checked in to Abacus, which was fast and pretty accurate; it actually gave me a little more on a few of my reports as a trial run. ANyone have any ideas on this. Thanks for any help.
Not 30%...use your word count funtion
under tools. Take the number w/o spaces and divide by 65. That will give you the line count. Then take the number with spaces and divide by 65. You will see that the difference is more like 20%. So making .12 a line w/o is great! Wish I could find a work that paid that.
Even different versions of Word count the same, so it's not that either. nm
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So do they let you get your own line count using Word or
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Line Count in Word
I am an IC and will be starting with a new client this week. Can someone tell me how to get an accurate line count in Word? I know that have a word/line count in Tools, but I have found that it is not accurate (it usually gives you more lines than you actually typed). I don't want to cheat anyone, so I am hoping someone can tell me how to get an accurate line count. Thanks in advance for your help. Trish
Line count in word
Depends if you are counting gross or cpl. The gross does count the blank lines but it is an accurate line count. You can even put on the numbers to show you that it is. You can do this under file and page set up. You can also do to sections only. But you can also take characters with spaces and divide by 65 or whatever character line you are charging. Other than that you can buy a program that works. When I used a program I liked Sylcount as you could set it up to count twice for a capital letter,bold, underline, etc. And you are using two characters to do that. But it takes a while to get used to and time is money, so I told my docs I was sticking with gross lines, lower rate and easier and less time to count and so we all agreed. They are happy, I am happy.
Line Count in Word
Thanks very much. Very helpful. I love this board -- I get so many answers to questions I have! Thanks again.
I have an account that I use Word Count
I highlight the entire document and take the line count by my line rate. They pay it. It's not cheating. It depends on what was set up with the client. I have another client that I take the total number of characters, divide by 65, and then multiply by my line rate. This is another way that is not cheating. Word Count can be accurate if used properly. It does not cheat. I've compared my line counts with someone who has a line counting program and it came out to be the same.
Word line count
I check my Word line count against my employer's every few days or so. While you're in Word go up to Tools, Word Count. My pay is supposedly 65 cpl with spaces too, so I divide the word count that says with spaces by 65. I just did a report with 12,722 characters wtih spaces by my count. I just checked their count by dividing that number by 65 and my count was 195.72. On their counting it is 196.
luv2type-line count in word
Thanks for your help! I'm in Ohio about 1 hour from pittsburgh. they're are a lot of docs here though. does it sound good to try and negotiate and start at a higher rate and then drop down a bit? Also does using your line count in word work pretty good for you. Do you not find the need to get a separate counter? Thanks so much for your help!
I used my word count function and got closer to 15.5%
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...count instead, or raising your word rate. nm
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headers, footers, word count
I am an newbie IC and just started a new Dr. when I realized that MS word does not count headers and footers with word count. Any way you can include headers/footers in the word count or do you have to count it all separately and then add them together?
Word does have Line Count under Tools.
not have an add on. I use MS Word 2003 and it has a line count on the tool bar. Are you sure you know what you mean when you say there is no line counter in Tools in MS Word?
Line count verification in MS Word.
I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, no headers/footers. When I highlight the text I type (nothing else), and then check under Tools, Word Count, characters with spaces, and then divide by 65, I'm still coming up about 6-8% higher than my company's line count. Am I doing something wrong?
Cut and paste a report into Word and run a line count there.
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Transcribing/Word Count for Scientific/Technical
Hello. I just started transcribing for an interpreter who does work for various medical institutions and mainly for foreign pharmaceutical product descriptions. The work is very tedious and time consuming and pay is $15 per 1,000 words. The work involves a lot of inserting of symbols, outlining, turning off and on bolding, italics, underlining, and doing a lot of indents and tabbing. He said my work was flawless but I feel like I'm making $2 an hour. Any ideas or thoughts on this rate of pay? Being new it's taking me quite a while to do all the extra formatting, etc., and it’s not just straight transcribing. He also mentioned that he does translation and dictation for medical journals and just bought a Dragon program. I’m assuming he’s doing the easier work on his Dragon program but I’m not that familiar with it. Any additional HELP would be great!!
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