cruelty

Posted By: me on 2005-08-10
In Reply to: CRUELTY CLARIFICATION - converting soon?

In the recent PETA video regarding processing for KFC out of the Moorefield, WV plant...my son worked there 3 years ago. Yes it's cruel. The chickens are packed into crates and cannot even move. They will peck the guys who unload them and put them on the conveyor belt, so those guys will kick, stomp, throw them against the wall, etc. Do do go by belt to a large saw and if that doesn't work, there is a guy working there all day with a knife who completes the job. Sometimes if there are too many, they make it to the boiling water alive. It's pretty filthy work, they get chickens who are diseased and those go down a chute for pet food. The workers aren't allowed to wear gloves OR a mask, their feeling is it could contaminate the chickens (??). My son was exposed to campylobacter there and ended up having to have his stomach taken out. Get this, they refused his compensation saying he couldn't prove he got it there, even though they reported it to the health department (by law) and to the CDC. I believe PETA goes overboard at times, but in some cases, the story really needs to get out. There are many videos on their website.

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CRUELTY CLARIFICATION - converting soon?
- cruelty - me
- are you all talking about? - What video
  - see post below "To romey and ANIMAL ADVOCATE...see inside please" (nm) - MTMT
- Answer to your questions - romey
  - I was going to post in regards to this but - PETA freaks!
    - Freaks? - dd
    - peta - Romey
      - thanks, romey - MTMT
- warning - this may be disturbing and offensive to some...and then, maybe not... - MTMT
  - Well we don't do that to our chickens (24 now). They have a nice coop - sm - Laura E.
    - Store chicken doesn't even compare (nm) - Lori
  - Yuck, I don't eat red meat, but (sm) - Vegan here
    - yuck... - desertflour
    - protein - ce
  - mmmmm..... - chicken. When's dinner??
    - I was thinking the same thing.... - beef, it's what's for dinner
    - REAL MATURE - nn
  - so, how is this worse than when my grandpa used to chop off a chicken's head or slit a steer or p - throat to put food on his family's table?
    - in the old days, most animals raised for consumption at least got a life while they were alive. - fg
      - BBQ - dd
        OMG I **love** BBQ! It smells so GOOD! - especially chicken!!
    - brutality - romey
      - Guess you're probably going to ask - sm
        nonsense - we can all express our views...we are all adults (sm) - MTMT
        Please don't flame me, but I'm glad somebody eats meat. That's how my husband supports us, - wannie
        no flame here, no problem - just wanted to post information, how a person uses it is up to them...(n - MTMT
        Thanks! It's nice to know we can agree to disagree. - wannie
        oops! meant meat cutter. - wannie
        not to worry, haha, we are not at work (smile!) nm - MTMT
        Not at all - Romey
      - I think you are preaching to the moon. - sm
        Good for you - Romey
    - my grandmother did that, too, but - MTMT
    - the living conditions - animal advocate
      - reply - romey
        You are right... - animal advocate
        I understand thanks - Romey
- check out PETA - terg
  - omg! - anti-peta
    - I'll 2nd that! - nm

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CRUELTY CLARIFICATION

To the multiple posters below, regarding the thread on farm animal cruelty. First of all, I believe you. Second of all, me and many like me don't have access to video and/or cannot watch the video. Yet, we still want some facts. I was not able to pick up fact based on the thread. Here is what I found out -- VERY INFORMATIVE by the way, and I appreciated reading it -- but there were still questions in the air. Can someone please CLARIFY, by way of simply stating the facts, what is going on with each of the following animals, so that we, AS CONSUMERS WHO MOSTLY SHOP AT BIG CITY SUPERMARKETS, can make an INFORMED CHOICE based on these facts:

1. Chickens. Know they live their lives squashed and get heads severed off via rotating razor blades. True, false, anything missing?

2. Veal calves. The cruelest fate of all (besides french geese for fois gras or however you spell it). Tiny crates, water deprivation, light deprivation, no straw, no way to move the extremities. And how are they killed?

3. Regular calves, and cows for meat. How are they killed - really? I think the general public thinks they get a humane bullet in the head. Is this not true?

4. Dairy cows. Their fate? And aren't they treated a little better (fresh air, etc.) for dairy vs meat? Please inform.

5. Pigs. We know that they eat, we know they are dirty, but assume that they, too, get room to roam, and are killed with a bullet BEFORE being cut up. Is this true? If not, how different?

6. Anything else we need to know about?

So very, very much appreciate a WRITTEN answer to those of us who have no access to / cannot go the video route. BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

Beauty Without Cruelty
These products are also not tested on animals and do not use animal products in them. I think a lot of aging has to do with sun exposure. I don't have the around-the-eye wrinkles, but do have forehead lines because I squint.

I do. I still believe it is an unnecessary cruelty.
NM

I'm no PETA supporter. Still know cruelty when I see it, though.
NM

Oh my Gosh - WEGMANS has cruelty to animals??
That is the only place I will do my grocery shopping - I haven't seen the video yet, but please say it isn't soooo. There are only a few Wegmans - Where will I goooooo??!!!?!?