bigotry

Posted By: blondie on 2008-01-19
In Reply to: The bigotry I see claimed is not that but - tnmt

Look I was one of the posts speaking about illegals. I am sorry to offend anyone. But you have to admit some of the illegals here are not up to par on their hygiene. Maybe my area is different but most in my area suffer from this problem. I am sorry to offend anyone but it is true. Now let me make something VERY clear. There is a difference between ILLEGAL Mexicans and LEGAL CITIZENS who are Mexicans. There is a big difference. The legal Mexicans are usually clean, well mannered, good English speaking people. They have normal jobs and want nothing but to be like us. They went about doing things the right way. They came here because they wanted to be American. They make every effort to be American. But now I am sorry it is the illegal ones and I don't know why but they snuck over in an illegal way. They act like they have no interest in learning our culture or our language except enough to get by. And I don't have to assume if some of them don't practice good hygiene because it is obvious because you see it and you smell it. It isn't something you assume at all. I am not making assumptions I am stating facts from what is seen.

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Finally - people who know what I'm talking about - Renee
- ESL and such - blondie
  - Good board for sharing sm - Anon
- Being out of touch is a hazard of our job, but one reason you touched a nerve SM - MissIndigo
  - ESL is not code for bigotry. It is used in my SM - gm
  - Thanks for the wake up call - Renee
    - Hi, Renee. Welcome to Georgia. SM - MissIndigo
      - Thanks for the welcome - Renee
        Oh, my!. I HAVE been there, desk in kitchen while dishes pile up and so on. - MsIndigo
    - ESL just means English as second language. - Bigotry is its own issue. nm
  - Disagree. ESL is just what it is. Bigotry term - used to pull attention away from raping of USA.
    - Then called me a bigot... - ESLs
      - What??? Above post meant to convey no - connection between ESL & bigotry. They are
        their own issue. A lot of people claim bigotry to - distract from issue of illegals raping US system.
        The bigotry I see claimed is not that but - tnmt
        bigotry - blondie
        true, blondie, & you are no bigot for saying so - vicki
        sad - blondie
        Tsk, Tsk, Tsk - CeeCee2
        such things.... - blondie
        blondie a bigot? - Jay
        You think I am ignorant?!.... - blondie
        opinions based on the negative - Jay
        opinion - blondie
        illegals - blondie
        The disclaimer "in my experience" is important - tnmt
        Public board, she can post her opinion. Illegal - aliens need to go back home. nm
        Hhmm, what I saw were people talking about - illegal aliens stealing services from USA. nm
- What is really a shame is - ESLs
  - most bosses are afraid to stand up to the....sm - I totally agree
    - I would tell them to pack sand - Renee
      - LOL it's POUND sand... nm - Scribbles
        Best if - nana
        It's a seafaring insult, though both are similar - Renee
        Ah, reminds me of a friend who said, "I'll be all over you like cheese soup!" - Instead of "cheap suit." I actually like so
        - soup better - NM
        My housekeeper telling me cake from strap?? - Get this
        Are you sure she didnt mean strap, like black - strap molasses? nm
        She probably would not even know black strap as in - Get this
        I do my own housework - only ESL comes from me after a long day - oooy ! - Anon
        She is not ESL, African American female - Get this
        I like that! Same here. - Renee
        If you aren't paying me to do 100% accuracy - here, don't edit me. nm
        Maybe it's not where OP is from. Who cares - anyway. Knew what she meant. nm
      - Not difficult at all. You dont want to do ESL, - dont. There will always be someone who will.
  - One surgeon - mt
  - Guess I'm pretty lucky - lindabel
    - If the doctors actually change their ways, - then yes, you are lucky.
    - Who do you work for & are they hiring? - Renee
  - We should call the doctors - Renee
    - Last word on this subject, promise! - CeeCee2
    - No one is going to make the dr change style of - dictating. Either learn to to him or move on. nm

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How is bigotry not a sin?
"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose." -William Shakespeare

What your bible defines as sin is not my problem. Live as you feel is right, I will do the same.

If you have to resort to the supernatural to justify your views, your views might need closer scrutiny.

bigotry
I am not referring to ALL Mexicans. There are some (few) who are legal citizens of the US, and they work and make a good living for themselves and do not want handouts. But they are also legal. As far as the illegal ones go good luck finding a decent, well groomed, good hygiene one who is illegal. Alot of them are thieves also. Personal experience with this first hand. I know.

Bigotry within AAMT
Hey, HIVer--I can top--or at least equal that. About that same time frame, early nineties, I was in AAMT. They sent pictures of people running for the board of directors. I called to ask them why no people of color were there. The reply of the snotty AAMT representative was "No person of color is qualified to sit on our board." So folks, there is a very well-disguised but very real veneer of bigotry in AAMT. These are not nice people.

Hate is hate and bigotry is bigotry.
Whether it is towards blacks, gays, people with blue eyes, etc...

The bigotry I see claimed is not that but
when people start making generalizations about people's cleanliness or illegality. It's a huge jump from talking about illegal immigrants to assuming the Hispanic people you see are Mexicans, aliens, or dirty.

Sure, some of them are, but some of them aren't and anytime you make assumptions about a group of people, you are being prejudiced. That's what I saw the other day on this board, and that's what was called out.

ESL is not code for bigotry. It is used in my SM
community of SoFla. There are ESOL classes in school and English classes for ESL adults. These are listed as ESL! There are references to ESL all over and there is nothing bigotted about it. It is not a "code" for bigotry, at least in SoFla. I don't know about the rest of the US.

I have already stated, I don't mind ESL doctors. As someone else pointed out, they know they have an accent and tend to speak very clearly.

And you will have to answer to your hate and bigotry some day.
Now I'm off to recruit some young boys into My Lifestyle, as you say. Gee, I thot MQ was the clueless ones!

Disagree. ESL is just what it is. Bigotry term
x

their own issue. A lot of people claim bigotry to
x

not my point, actually. My point was the bigotry is the same.
The bigotry's always there. Not all "Mexicans" are Mexican, nor are they all illegal. My point is, though, people used to make remarks about cabbage smell about the Irish just like comments are made now about how nasty Mexicans are.

Every time somebody says something about "those people," something bigoted is coming out. That's all I'm saying.