and he as mayor of that city had no responsibility at all?
Posted By: Why have a mayor then? on 2005-09-05
In Reply to: put yourself in his shoes - - msbeanctr
Such convoluted logic. Believe me, he's doing a great job of pointing the finger of blame and ducking responsibility on his own without any help from you.
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I'm not angry when I say this about the mayor - sm
The mayor kept telling people to leave over and over and over again. He stated that he knew thousands did not have cars. He even said "this is the real thing, folks." Why didn't he provide school buses or city buses to get these people out - just take a few belongings, get on the bus, and get out of the city.
Did your husband know that the plans the mayor of NO used
were the same plans that were specified by the Department of Homeland Security when they did a simulation of this disaster in the 4 years prior? When FEMA was absorbed by the DHS, they did simulations of events like hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. In their simulation called Hurricane Pam, which was only simulated as a category 3, they said that the only place available as a shelter in this type of storm was the Superdome. They studied this for years. The mayor followed their recommendations.
As far as buses being available, the mayor made the public transportation system available for free but that was only inside the city of N.O. He can't make private sector transportation services provide free transportation OUT of the city and then, again, he could have used the public transportation and the school bus system to transport them out of the city, but to where? These people had no money - where were they going to go? The only option the mayor had was to use the recommendations of the DHS and house them in the Superdome. What other city was available in Louisiana that would have housed hundreds of thousands of people in shelters designed to withstand a category 4 (possibly 5) storm? There was none.
There was an article published yesterday in which many administration officials described how FEMA would work since it was absorbed into the Department of Homeland Security and what the responsibilities would be if the president declared any disaster an incident of national significance. It was an excellent article and very eye-opening. FEMA isn't the FEMA we knew from years ago that could act independently and at a quicker pace.
Mayor NO followed NONE of the procedures he was supposed to
Heard this on the radio. There are certain steps in the city emergency procedures that are to be followed on a local level, state level, national level. The mayor of NO for all his complaining about the Federal Government, did not follow any of the procedures he was required to. Interesting.
I think it was the mayor of Fort Lauderdale that I saw on TV.
He was going through where people could go for shelter, etc, how the government was prepared. BUT, he also POINTED OUT that it is an individual's RESPONSIBILITY to PREPARE for themselves. C'mon PEOPLE, RESPONSIBILITY is an individual thing. Why does everyone expect the GOVERNMENT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM instead of PREPARING for THEMSELVES! This is probably the BIGGEST PROBLEM with America today. PEOPLE DO NOT WAHT TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. It's so much easier to expect others to do it and complain and whine when they don't get what they EXPECT. THIS IS TRULY SAD FOR AMERICA!
Comment about New Orleans and Ray Nagin, the Mayor...sm
I just read below that a lot of you believe that Ray Nagin is a "hero" for speaking his mind, etc. My DH just told me this morning that he read the evacuation plans for New Orleans and what the city and its leaders (Nagin being the main leader) were supposed to do in the event of a hurricane, flood, etc. The manual stated that ALL public transportation was to be used to but the elderly, sick, poor, and those unable to get out to higher ground until the storm or catastrophe passed. He did not do that. He got on tv and told those to get out. No public transportation or school buses were used to get these people out.
I hate to judge, but I just cannot help but think that this guy is all talk and no action? I don't know, sure does sound like it to me. I too thought he was awesome, until my husband explained the evacuation procedures and how the city did nothing but warn of people to get out - and did not help them....
I know, sounds like the blame game and I am sorry if it sounds like I'm blaming. I just can't help but state this when now the facts are coming to light. 
Maybe ALL the tourists didn't have access to the mayor
Yeah, he's a regular Rudy Guiliani isn't he? You don't have a clue.
Don't forget the "good Mayor" who did not follow standard emergency procedures
But he sure is quick to throw blame on everyone else.
responsibility?
Everyone has made a bad decision at some point in their lives. That doesn't mean that we deserve to be killed because of it. The responsibility lies with the criminals. They are the ones who do the bad things to innocent people. How many girls are kidnapped and raped who aren't out drinking? Many. Why not talk about the parents of the suspected boy? Where does their responsibility lie? We are criticising Natalee's mother, but what about this boy's father? How could you hide information about your son's actions when he has possibly killed someone?
Your mentality is lacking. If you get in a car and drive to work, does that mean you are just asking to be killed in a traffic accident. And if you are, people should just say Oh well, she chose to drive! That's what she gets. ????
Responsibility
Sorry, but I think Beth should be held accountable and responsible for her actions/words. She is out of control, in my opinion, fueled by her raw emotion and e-mails/letter/cards she feels are supporting her actions. She is supported in her ordeal and I support her. However, she has crossed a line now and she needs to step back and reassess. She seems erratic and just grasping at straws now, saying a lot of stuff in interviews that really makes no sense. I do not know how I would react if I was in her situation so I should not criticize her. I just really do feel that her emotions are too raw now for her to be rational. It is like she is declaring, "I came to Aruba. I found the criminals myself, now prosecute them." What if she eventually finds out she was dead wrong, that her beautiful, intelligent, outstanding daughter was alive when she the mother arrived in Aruba but she drove the investigation to go the way she wanted it to go, the way she felt in her heart/soul was the right way. But, what if she is wrong? What if the investigators dropped what they were doing to catch the real criminals to passify Beth and the media? What if Natalee could have been saved? How will her mother feel then if she finds that out?
let the dr take responsibility
Liability insurance? The doctors are supposed to read over our transcribed reports and when they put their signature on the report, they have taken responsibility. Why should we have to pay for liability insurance?
Where is MTs responsibility in this? Is it always
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How about the responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL
You've totally missed the whole point of the article!
Govt responsibility
Totally agree with you. I dont care if some were not prepared..what I care about is now they are hungry, thirsty, homeless..It is the responsibility of our government and the brothers and sisters of America to help other Americans when they need help. I am from NY and I have been through quite a few hurricanes..nothing like what Florida goes through but I do know hurricanes hit sometimes when you are a day or two from your paycheck and really dont have any money to go shopping or rent out a hotel room. It scares me that so many Americans blame the victim and turn a blind eye and deaf ear to Americans in need.
No, sorry, dear. It's her responsibility to
set and example of standards and intelligence because she's representing the company she's working for. She's a manager, not an owner and she's not paying anyone. She's on the payroll too and has the responsibility to make the company look professional and polished.
You're dead wrong on this one.
Your first responsibility is to YOUR kids. sm
Since it's obvious this other family is troubled, and also that they will not respect the rules of your family and household, you need to talk to YOUR kids.
They need to know they are safe, and that you will be responding, and they need to know HOW you will respond. Predators use some of the crap these kids are pulling, and your kids need to have an identity strong enough to remain KIND but NOT give in to the other kids' behavior.
I'm going to assume (ouch) that your kids are uncomfortable with the situation. Please let it be a teaching opportunity for them. They know the rules; why are the OTHER kids allowed to break your family rules? They want to be kind; can you teach them also to be FIRM?
Good luck. Your kids are your first priority. You may never even KNOW what in the world is going on with the other kids, let alone be able to do anything about it, but your kids will remember this episode for the rest of their lives, probably. Will they also remember how you taught them to understand and overcome?
Yes, I think it is a responsibility and I mad a promise...
to mom to not ever put her in a nursing home as a young 20-something. As an only child, I followed and kept that promise.
I cared for her for 6 years. It should have been more but I didn't realize she was going downhill so fast. I was very stressed out in her later years as she started to develop a lot of problems including memory problems, but when I look back, I would NEVER, EVER, change my mind. She was happy here with us and although she was having a lot of problems, the only thing I wished for was for her to be comfortable and happy. (She was in a nursing home temporarily for 2 months after she broke her hip and was very unhappy. This was sort of a test to see if she would like it, but she didn't.) I did everything necessary to make her comfortable in her last years.
It was hard, but I kept my promise even though every doctor told me to put her in a nursing home. Thank heavens, I worked for a great company that understood and allowed me to take as many breaks/days off as I needed to care for her. I would never have changed a thing even though I got very worn out during the end myself because she was almost totally bedridden. Still, I loved my mother with all my heart and still miss her even though she died 6 years ago.
I only hope my children would do the same for me unless i have Alzheimer disease. If a parent is unhappy at a nursing home, by all means do what is necessary to make their last days happy. After all, they raised us, and we should return that love.
You need to be patient, be a nurse, doctor, etc. for an elderly parent and if there is none, it could be very, very "unhealthy" for the parent and the child, but I feel we need to make sacrifices for our parents happiness in their later years as they sacrificed for us in our early years. After all, they are the only parents we had, andI I have NO regrets, knowing I did the best I could for her.
Sorry to ramble. I'm still grieving. I wanted her to live to be 100 if possible.We were really close all our lives.
collective work and responsibility?
thats insane
ultimately it's the hospital's responsibility but do you want to keep your job?
If you do, you'll make sure the hospital is happy. Not a lot you can do here unless you want to cut a deal with the hospital where you will have a sub work your account for you when you are off. That may or may not fly at the hospital. Another thing you can ask is that they hire a third person to work the account. Of course, that means you risk losing work if she wants more...
The doc who signs off on it has ultimate responsibility.
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You chose IC status. Your responsibility. nm
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and it is our responsibility to know the account specifics...
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This is the responsibility of the MTSO, in my opinion. SM
Go directly to the transcription service or company owner. I have always felt strongly that the person in charge of the particular problem account must address this directly with the physician(s) who are dictating the garbage. For years, I had several local physician practices. Most were excellent dictators, but one in particular was horrible. I put up with it for a few weeks, and then addressed the problems with an outlined specification sheet indicating what information needs to be given in dictation to protect the safety of the patient record, as well as to produce an acceptable medical report. I also indicated that transcriptions requiring repetitive deletions, going back and changing dictation, and constant misspelled words would be charged a higher line rate. This is also the doctor who would give the filled in blanks back to be retyped. These were blanks that were completely inaudible in the original dictation because of excess noise, coughing while saying the words, or laughing with colleagues while trying to dictation. In bold, I also specified PLEASE DICTATE IMPORTANT PATIENT MEDICAL RECORDS IN A QUIET AREA THAT IS FREE OF EXCESS BACKGROUND NOISE TO ENSURE ACCURATE INFORMATION IS BEING RELAYED. If the owner of the transcription company had to type this work, trust me something would be addressed with the dictator. Speak up about this because after all you are the one responsible for producing the report.
Interesting and typical. Accept responsibility for nothing
He's a loser
There's always a reason. The question is is whether people are willing to take responsibility.
and what the heck does "variate" mean?
love and responsibility are sure left out of your assessment.
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It's your responsibility to give them their documents on disk/CD!
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I was responding to the post above asking if it was our responsibility to know the accounts we are w
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bushies? Advocating personal responsibility
for one's actions is NOT a political party issue - it is a common sense issue!!! If bashing dishonesty and laziness offends you, then stay off this board. Sounds to me you are the same type of person this lazy slob is.
I would take responsibility for my actions and I would not call citizens of the country
criminals if there is no evidence to hold them and I personally have no evidence to present to the law to hold them. I am not one for the spotlight even without grieving for the loss of my child. I certainly would not get up on world-wide TV and insult the people conducting the search and investigation for my missing child. And I would not be in the frame of mind to get all made up with glitter eye makeup and false eyelashes to tell other countries not to accept "criminals" who the legal system did not have evidence to hold. She is a loon.
These knee jerk bleeding heart liberals could not take responsibility for their
actions if it hit them in the face as it did with Mrs. Twitty. The Arubans are sick and tired of her and frankly so am I. Wash the makeup off your face, take off the false eyelashes and go grieve for your daughter.
it IS the mayor's fault and it IS Kathleen Blanco's fault
to assess the potential damage and what help they have immediately available in their area. They are then responsible for contacting the feds for more aid BEFORE the fact if they truly know their geography, economics, and have a weather advisory board on hand for such purposes, which they DO.
The mayor and the governor did not do any of this and now as the general consensus of the liberal loonies always turns, if you drop the ball and don't take responsibility for what you're expected to know how to do in your elected office, BLAME BUSH.
Stupid is as stupid does.
There's a law in our city that you can't have more than
a certain number of pets in your yard or home. Have the neighborhood band together and sign a petition or turn him in on every tiny infraction. Get rid of the guy. Take back your neighborhood.
Sex And the City! : )
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What city? - NM
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What city is LCC out of? Do you know? (nm)
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what are you trying to do, build another city...
please go down about four posts and see the one titled "It never fails to amaze me" and see what happened to that train of thought and the responses to the same. You might get a clue to your answer. Have a great day. 
It's certainly UNBELIEVABLE that they'd do this the city, but
I guess I don't know enough to understand why? What could the government of NY had done to prevent this? What were the grievances? I really think we need to blame the right people here, so hopefully someone will be able to share more info on why this happened.
Kansas City, MO Thanks! nm
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Why does everyone think Kansas City, MO is
Kansas City, Kansas as well, but for the most part when you hear KANSAS CITY it is referring to Missouri. The Kansas City Chiefs are in MISSOURI, not Kansas. Downtown Kansas City (the one you hear about) is in MISSOURI, not Kansas.
Those City folks
I can really relate to your situation and wanted to tell you this story.
I live at the base of a mountain. There is an RV place out here and every winter the hunters camp and .....leave aggrevation everywhere (garbage).
Yesterday i drove the 15 miles to town to the post office where they know everyone by name. I was packaging my book to mail and was listening to this conversation: A gentleman handed a change of address form to the Postmaster. He says," You just moved in that new house on the hill last fall. Is everything okay"?
Naturally everyone looks that direction. The gentleman says " We don't like that housing developement on the hill. There is way too much snow".
Continuing with his story: My wife had the kids were in the SUV and the road was covered with snow and ice. (duh, it is all winter long). She had to stop because of the herd of Elk standing on the hill in the middle of the road. She slid back down the hill and wouldn't drive up again until I came home from work".
So i have asked my husband for a snow maker!!!!!! Maybe they will all move back to the city. At the base of this hill, a herd of Elk always graze in the field. There have been many occassions i drive the grandkids that direction to watch. The 3-year-old asks to me take him to see the funny cows.
So if anyone has a spare Snowmaker please send it to me.....I would love to drive the rest of the city folk out of there!! 
city folk
I'm a city girl who moved to the country a year ago, and just want to tell you we're NOT all like that! Glad your game warden & cops did that!
My family & I respect our environment and animals (neighbor's pets and wild ones)& are upset to see garbage alongside the beautiful country roads! Even went out & cleaned it up a few times (by next day it was a mess again!). We have a teen boy on our street who drives like that, too....and he's always lived here in the country!
That kid who killed the deer & tried to hit your dog will get his..."what goes around comes around".
You think we stereotype that all country people are dumb...well, aren't you stereotyping that all city people are like that family?
Johnson City HS, NY
How do I reach them? What city are they in? Do sm
you work for them?
If within city limits, you will.
I at one time ran an ad in Yellow pages with my last name and then "Typing Service" as I was trying to get students and those needing resumes. The city called me and told me I needed a business license. It is a small percentage of the gross annual income. Then, you can display it. They also want to know if there is incoming and outgoing people, whether I would be selling a product or if it was a service and whether it will be in your home and if so, would there be traffic coming and going. I did not contact my insurance company but probably should have...(I had very little business lol).
HA, I always thought her name was the city she was from!!!!
silly to have to point that out about yourself!
I'm in AL, too! Phenix City. nm
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Hey Forrest City (sm)
I grew up close to there and attended high school at FCHS. Wonder if we knew each other?
Do you mind if I ask what city...
you are working in? I live in TN and all of the jobs I have seen advertised pay under $13 per hour. I had no idea the hospitals here pay that much.
RE: Do you mind if I ask what city...
Memphis.
Depends on your city
I was first told no and now have been told that yes I do. So check with your city and they will let you know. You are running a business just as any building contractor, consultant, painter, plumber, etc. and so they are making us do this more and more. You usually pay a percentage of your earnings. But since we have no foot traffic I did not have to get the approval of my neigbors for the business. This is in Portland, OR.
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