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You weren't trained

Posted By: Lou on 2006-02-05
In Reply to: Upmost respect for MTs... - RN

You weren't trained, which is why you couldn't earn a living doing MT.  A lot of people make that mistake, think they just sit down at a computer and type what they hear, then they wonder why they can't make any money. I'm sure if you had gone to school to learn MT, you would have been great at it. After all, you didn't teach yourself to become an RN, right?


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Because they weren't doing much
They were working too hard to take the time to talk.  It was the American workers that made me sick.  I was sort of embarrassed by the fact that they couldn't do the job without complaining about having to go to the next one.  They even brought their kids with them to work who played with my kids' stuff without even asking first.  They were ignorant and not worth the money they were paid.  It is a shame that I had to feel that way, but it is so true. 
I tried to work it out, they weren't willing. nm
 
they weren't asking for help, just complaining
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Amen to that - I'm fed up with it. We weren't
even asked if we would CONSIDER going to editing, we are just switched over. I wasn't hired to edit and was hired to transcribe at a mutually agreed-upon line rate. I can type faster than I edit - I am going to lose a lot of $ at this editing stuff if I don't find something else. Not happy at all with it.
Weren't you ever taught that if you
don't have anything nice to say to someone, don't say anything at all? You must like being rude and hateful, and I don't mean just YOU personally, I mean everyone who has to criticise and be rude.
Yes, then what was "male veterinarian" if you weren't
Some people need better things to worry about.
LOL. It took a moment to realize you weren't
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And how do you know they weren't cussing up a blue
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Then you weren't making any profits -- sm
If taxes were eating up your "profit" you weren't making any as even as an employee you pay taxes and so your takehome pay is less.  All you pay is the extra 7.5% of SSN when you are an IC or in business for self.  There are so many write offs that I have or anyone can have that I actually have more take home pay than if I were an employee.  So again, you had no profits as if you had been an employee you would have been 30% down in take home pay anyway.  With all my write offs -- which I would still have an an employee but could not deduct, I am in a much higher tax bracket than I am now.  So even with the extra 7.5% for SSN, it is well worth it to be and no I do not cheat just take all available write-offs that I am allowed.  
If it weren't for us Americans, he wouldn't be the star

mine did this and my headphones weren't plugged in all the way nm

if i were being promised things that weren't being followed through, i'd hit the road. sm
i agree on the decreasing the bonus but maybe they didn't have as productive of a year this year or didn't clear as much in their pocketbooks as they would like, lol. i technically think all companies should give something; after all, a gift is a tax write off anyway. better to give to those busting our tails for them rather than uncle sam. i haven't gotten anything but cards in the last 3 years so i am used to it by now and don't expect it but i would definitely be grateful even for a meal gift card or anything for that matter.
Me, too, but we weren't allowed to use White-Out. We had to erase sm
all our carbons, sometimes I had 6, as we weren't allowed to use a copier. I wish we had a board of our own, don't you? Things are different with us.
If it weren't for needing a land line for DSL
My cell phone is my primary phone and I have more minutes and free long distance than I can use per month. I got basic phone services and locked it from any LD calls to save money and my land line still costs $30 a month. I feel I'm wasting that money but there isn't anything I can do. I won't drop my cell phone because I have my kids on as extra lines and they wouldn't have a phone otherwise.
weren't these shoes originally called...sm
to me, crocs would be made out of crocodiles (I do live in Florida *LOL*).....what you all describe sounds like the *jellies* my daughter wore when she was 10 or 12. 
Patti, weren't you one of the MTSOs complaining
a couple of weeks back that there's really no big money in this biz anymore and it wasn't worth the time/effort put in when all is said and done? Or maybe you're having a good week this week? : )
Weren't the Indians given a reduced rate to get CMT?
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It means they probably weren't worth your time
and that unless they were not being straight with you (perhaps you did not actually pass their test for example) that they are disorganized and careless when it comes to recruitment.

Look elsewhere - APPLY MULTIPLE PLACES because this IS unfortunately not a unique situation. I have 20 years in the business and I have often had four resumes out at once because I KNOW some of the jobs advertised are not real jobs and I will never hear back. Others will SAY you have a job and then drop the ball to get you started.

The ones who seriously want to hire you *now* will make that very clear... Basically whoever gives you work first (that meets *your* requirements of course) is the company you go with.

Make a note of those companies who don't act professionally - and consider yourself forewarned about what they might be like to work for in the future.

SOME have legitimate communication oversights - but there are a TON who are poorly managed. It shouldn't be rocket science to figure out that ignoring a candidate (dropping the ball) etc., very loikely elimiates a potential person for future needs.
They weren't *fudging*. They didn't ADD hours -
The employee LOSES, and the company WINS.

Either the employee should get a OT differential for the extra hrs. worked, or else the *minimum* daily line count is TOO HIGH.
They weren't "fudging" - they didn't ADD hours -
The employee LOSES, and the company WINS.

Either the employee should get a OT differential for the extra hrs. worked, or else the *minimum* daily line count is TOO HIGH.
You probably would have had more people in chat if it weren't New Year's Day.
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If it weren't a psych note I might wonder why it was relevant
but in a psych note I could easily see why mention of sexual orientation might be appropriate. I otherwise might wonder why doc felt need to include it in a regular medical note, where it's not normally mentioned if a person is straight.
I'm sure you're fine. If you weren't worried/
that would be different.  But you obviously do care.  I'm sure you are doing just fine.  Ask your MTSO; I'm sure she will appreciate that you are conscientious enough to ask. 
Maybe the kids just weren't good in math period. No

matter where they go to school there are going to be kids that just struggle in a subject.   Not having family support could be a major issue too.  I never understood not having family support and why it mattered to a parent whether they had it or not because they are the parent.  It would be nice if the family was supportive though.  I have known people whose parents were so against it, but later saw that they were missing so much and bought into it and actually enjoyed helping them learn and explore.   It doesn't take an education to be able to educate your child, it just takes love, time, and patience.  Not all parents can provide that, but most can and do.  I have 1 year of college and my just turned 11-YO is so far ahead that we went to a local college bookstore today to get him books because he has pretty much mastered everything else.   I spend my free time reading his books trying to stay one step ahead of him and in the process getting a better education than I ever got when I was in school and I went to pubic and private schools and was also in advanced classes. 


Homeschooling is not for everyone, but it is an option and those who choose to do it should be allowed to do it without being degraded for it.  There are a tremendous amount of resources available to homeschoolers, the bigger the city the more options.  Lack of socialization is one of the first issues that a non-homeschooler brings up.  Our children still play with neighborhood children, participate in community sporting activities, scouts, 4-H, etc. so there are plenty of times for socialization.  My youngest son has never met a stranger and everyone wants to be around him from ages 1 to 100.  My oldest isn't as social and most of his friends are public school kids, but when he was in public school he didn't have but 1 friend, mainly because he was so advanced and the things he would talk about where things way over the other kid's heads and they thought he was lying.


Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now. 


 


She needed thicker skin. You weren't rude at all. nm
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I'd stay if they weren't deleting posts worse than the other ever did
I thought they deleted without cause before.. this is crazy.
I totally got your point, and I agree with it all. Your words weren't wasted. nm
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Weren't you set up with a VPN or some other site to access the work? The tech people need to set
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thats exactly why I did this. I trained sm
in a hospital when I first started in 1979 but as soon as I could I went home to work. I tried the hospital "thing again" for about five years but I hated it. I just needed the insurance at the time. I prefer being at home not dealing with the politics and the back-biting. I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. I figure I am secure enough in myself to ignore the comments about how we at home don't have to work, can do what we want, etc. etc. Anyone who has done this knows better anyway!
They still have to be trained how to
QA/grade, give proper feedback, use the QA software, etc., because as I said, it's a completely different job. When having an opening for a QA, why not take applications from internal MTs, if any are interested which is rare because MTing pays better, as well as taking applications from experienced QAs? I don't have a problem with that, only when they hire exclusively from within, forcing experienced QAs to MT again & work their way to QA again. That's just SILLY.
LOL, I trained on the job also in the
early 1980s. As for hospitals, some are taking their transcription back. A MAJOR hospital chain in my town used the Q, but at the end of the contrast 2 years ago, they totally took all their transcription back and hired in-house and at-home MTs (one of my friends works for them).
I'm 36, been doing this 26 years, trained on the job.. nm
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50, trained by VA OJT in 1988.sm

Started out doing autopsy reports, then went to "the typing pool" (acute MT) as we used to be called, came home in 1995, been here since.


Honestly, they need to be trained.
Mine had the same mentality when we first got together.  I refused to do it.  If he scattered dirty laundry, I left it there.  If he didn't put his dishes in the sink, they sat out.  I'm not anyone's slave.  Also, if they expect the woment to work, they need to share in the housework, child care, and finances.
they seem to be trained to dictate that way.
I worked at a hospital that had a podiatric residency program, and the residents were often required to do the dictation for operations performed by others.  Obviously the long format wasn't something the resident made up on his own, it was something they had been trained to do.  Other doctors tend to stumble into dictation without much in the way of instruction.
My son was three when he was potty trained.
I did similar things.

I don't know if you are already doing this or not, but the best thing I have found to potty train my kids is.....stop buying diapers/pull-ups. If you run out and you don't buy anymore then you really don't have a choice but to be consistent. Having nine pair of underwear on hand is what is recommended.

You can by the the toilet targets online for 5.95. They ARE helpful in making it a game. I always used the whole "Daddy is a big boy, don't you want to be like Daddy?" (works sometimes)

Make it a routine. Go every so often (timer), use the bathroom, flush the toilet, shut the lid, wash your hands, turn the light off, get your reward. Be consistent.

I have four girls and only one boy and my girls were trained by 2 years old with EASE - boys are much more difficult, mine anyway.
trained fingers
Makes me think of what it is like for your fingers to "know" a telephone number but for the life of me I couldn't tell you what it is--I'd have to dial it for you.
Not true....I trained 3 ...sm
from scratch.  All were very good, probably better than me!  I was just starting out on my own and had reached the point I needed help.  Taught them one at a time.  Just set them up right next to me and gave them the easiest stuff I had.  We both worked at the same time, and I was right there to answer questions and listen when they had trouble. 
Trained someone by proofing (sm)
She listened to every report, word for word, and she is now one of the best MT's I know.  That would be an excellent way to train.
How long do they have to be trained?
I work for MQ, and I think their VR stinks. It's been going for at least 3 years (though I think longer), and it still slows me down. You literally have to change every he to she or she to he and little things like that through the entire report that really slows me down. The funny thing is, it usually gets the medical terminology correct but everything else wrong.
I was trained for 4 years at a

vocational technical high school and learned transcription for 4 years straight, 4 hours a day at least.  I then went on to transcribe when I graduated for a lawyer, and then into the medical field I went.  That was 25 years ago.  We learned shorthand, accounting, typing, biology, among many, many other things. 


Please don't assume that I went to what you call one of these transcription schools because I did not.  I don't have to explain to you that I had 17 years of on-site training with physicians.  I learned straight from the dictator, so don't go there.  AHDI has brainwashed these new people entering this field with their silliness and money grubbing paws.


Okay, so I'm simply stating that to question someone's education for a job that they may make 20 grand a year of their lucky is just downright ignorant and nasty.  I make way more than that but only because I've been at it a while and have my own accounts and I'm not bragging at all; I'm just saying.


Whether you want to believe it or not, the ER reports were done through medical records as well as the basic four.  I know because I worked there in many different departments and did the transcription.  We had a separate entity for radiology and for the cardiology department.  Everyone's situation is different and not all worked at the one hospital you did for one lousy year where ever that may be in the US. 


We all have our stories, but my main concern is the post regarding questioning this poster's education.  Get over yourself!   


Gross lines and 12 hour days!!! I stand corrected, you weren't stretching the truth, you were...

misleading everyone.  The majority of MTSOs pay by a 65 character lines.  Paying for spaces or not paying for spaces is usually the only variant between companies.  You come on here and say that you tyhpe 3000 a line a day and leave it at that.  Don't say how many hours your work, how long your lines are, etc.  That is misleading!


I probably am typing 3000 gross lines a day in my eight hour day if I were coutning gross lines.  For fun, I think on my next work day, I'm going to jot down my gross line count in each document and add it up at the end of the day and compare it to my actual line count.  I'll let everyone know what the difference is.


Geez!  Really burns me up when people get on here at start spouting out nonsense as if it were fact and we should all be in awe of their skills and expertise!  For future reference, the truth lies in the details.  You can't just say you do 3000 lines a day and leave it at that.  Notice when I posted below how many lines a day I do, I added that I work a strictly 8 hour day and that my lines are 65 characters with spaces.


Give accurate and detailed information people, PLEASE!


I'm 49, trained in 1973, hospital course, been at it since!
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How do you learn when you know you are being trained wrong?
I am so sad.  Right now I am a newbie and need to ger my experience in and learn from the bottom, but I think this is not going to happen and I will never be a good MT with any skills to get another job.  I am currently employed with a company that has a QA manager that is not very good.  She corrects my work with her own made up ways of grammar, drug terminology, etc.  It is whatever she says, but when you tell her of her mistakes she won't listen and say just do it the way I say.  If I stay here I will never be good enough to go to another company.  Also, I will not be good enough to one day get hired by a national.  What do I do when I am being trained wrong, but need experience.  The people who hired the QA manager are clueless because they are not MTs.Therefore the QA person's word is the law of the land even when I know it is wrong.  Help!!!
How do you know you're being trained wrong?

Can you give some specifics?  BTW, many MT rules do not follow standard English grammar rules.  We either go by the BOS (AAMT Book of Style) or per account specs provided.  Each job is different.  If you want a paycheck, you learn to adapt to their particular style.


I seriously doubt anybody's going to hire an untrained QA person.  A person has to have years of experience as an MT before doing QA.  Honestly, if you're that unhappy, quit.


The school that trained you should be the first place
you go for placement assistance. They should be able to tell you what companies seek to hire their graduates. Many schools have employers lined up to hire their graduates because they know those schools turn out job-ready MTs. If your school was one of those, you will have no difficulty finding a job. In any event, your school should be able to tell you what employers have traditionally hired its graduates. Good luck to you.
I was told when I trained on DQS that there would be a decrease
in pay for lines done as ME.
Leash Trained Cats
Can I ask if how you got your cats to go on the leash. Did you start them out when they were kittens. I always thought this would be a safe alternative. My cats both stay inside and are very content and happy. They go in the screened porch in the summer and actually hate going outside. As far as hiding when they're sick, my cat was deathly sick with a UTI and he hid in the basement. Thank God we found him. The vet said if we waited until the next day he would have been dead. I hope you find your cat safe.
The worse they can say is no, but good, trained MTs
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That's how they trained MTs at UCLA back in
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Rosemarie is right on for trained VR systems. SM
You are obviously currently working with a new system that is still learning how to do its job. The first typewriters were undoubtedly really a pain to use, too. The poor clerks of those days must have begged just to be allowed to use their pen and ink as they always had.

My current system isn't as learned/advanced as my last one, so lots of corrections. It's about as much fun as doing QA cleaning up after a pack of new and sloppy MTs. But it's a temporary situation. And my current pay rate reflects the time needed for all those corrections. Does yours?

Over time, though, more and more reports do start coming through in good condition until most of them just require some general cleanup here and there.

Editing does shift emphasis from one skill to another.
I can see how the very fastest of typists might not make more editing than typing--they always speeded the dictation up to match them, and how people with little talent for editing might make less, but most people should do just as well editing as typing and many do make more at it.