Yes, watch margins/font. Unlike 65 chars line, this
Posted By: makes difference in gross..sm on 2008-04-13
In Reply to: Gross physical line?? - MTmom
I was paid on gross line for years, and I found that it worked out to be about 2 cpl higher than 65 chars line. Thus, 8 cents per gross would equal to roughly 10 cents per 65 chars. However, as other poster stated, you have to make sure it's a 12-size font and 1-inch margins
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Gross line was 7, not 8. Depending on font size and margins
7 cpl is about 8.5 cpl.
Ask what font, font size and margins are
Then you can figure out how many characters would be in a complete line of text. I am not sure if I am explaining this very well. :-( I worked for one place that had a small font size and small margins. So it did not work out for me as each line averaged closer to 70 characters, and there were not many lines that had only one or two words on them because of the set up.
It depends on the margins and font (nm)
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If you have Word Perfect, it is easy. Just open any document, default the font and margins and do a
You can do a comparrison on gross lines versus 65 character line count by opening any document you have and counting lines both ways.
I have almost always been paid the gross line and still am right now. No matter what the margins or font is, all documents are converted to 1 inch margins and 12 Courier font. You do not count blank lines. I make an average of 0.08 a gross line, which the way I am paid would average out to about 11-12 cents a 65 character line.
Hope this helps!
Chars aren't counted in gross lines. If you have a 4-line paragraph...sm
you have 4 gross lines, no matter how long or short the sentences are. A heading on it's own line is 1 gross line. A signature on it's own line is 1 gross line. The date at the top of a document on it's own line is 1 gross line. Anything on a line going from margin to margin is 1 gross line, no matter how few or many characters, or if there are spaces or not, even if there's only 1 character on that line like 'A' for instance. Does this help? :)
Font and line counts
Here's another question in this regard. A friend of mine always worked in-house and they were allowed to use Courier New 12. She is now working for a service where the font is Times New Roman 12. She finds that her line counts are half of what they were when using Courier New 12. Does this sound right? This service said that they were paying her for a 65-character line with spaces. I am wondering if they are really paying her without spaces. Maybe this is the difference in line count. Any ideas of why such a difference in line count?
not OP, but what is standard font for gross line that most are using? sm
how would you go about it if the acct suddenly decreased font size from 12 to 10, but expects to pay the same? to me it is kinda like a decrease in my pay!!!! well it is technically because i am doing the same amount of work for less money and i am not happy.
I agree - font has nothing to do with line count
I just changed font as well down to 11 font because they only have a typewriter and want to make corrections on reports I have printed and they do not have access to the reports (old doctor), but anyway, there is no change in line count. It just makes the font smaller.
side margins, top margins or what??
Type a test page. Set those margins on and see how many lines you get per page. Don't know if it is 2 inches on sides and 2.5 on top and bottom or what. But see how many lines you get per page and divide it by 2.00 and see what your cpl is. But if they are crunching reports onto one page, beware you will probably lose money unless you have many, many reports of under 20 to 25 lines. But no one knows how many "short" reports you get but my guess is not many and so with one or two full pagers, you will lose all your profit. That is why it is best to be paid for the production you produce. But that is me.
This is one place the font and line length absolutely
make a difference. If you have to use a small font and long line length, you will make the same or less than a 65 character count. Always check out the number of characters that can be put on the line with their defined margins. For example, 1 company uses 1 inch margin, but a tiny font, so the line length can actually be 104 characters, or almost double what the counted 65 character line is. Some have a "secret" formula for saying it will come out the same as a 65 character line, but that is a hoax, as well, as only part of the report is adjusted for that, not the entire report. The only gross line count on WP51 was the only good way for gross lines. Word has really changed that picture.
Do y'all think the size of the font matters in line counts?
If your font is smaller takes more characters to make a line? I just wondered this today.
I've been seeing a lot on this board about fonts and font size affecting line counts and I was...
wondering how this is possible? I mean if your lines are based on a 65 character line then what difference does the font type or size make? I mean, a character is a character whether it's type in Arial, Times New Roman, or Courier.
I use MP Count to count my lines and I decided to do a little test. I typed a document and saved in Arial 10 and 12 font type and size, Times New Roman 10 and 12 font type and size, and Courier 10 and 12 font type and size. And then I ran a line report on each individual document counting lines by 65 characters per line strict (no spaces) and came up with 24 lines each time in each font type and size.
There was an MT below who was saying she types in Arial for her client, but bills them for Courier like it made a difference in the lines. Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see how it makes any difference at all.
You need to watch your line count. I was working for them and got reports that had line count of 0
You need to watch your line count. I was working for them and got reports that had line count of 0 in them. They did not pay for templates, they would deduct the template even if it was not used and deleted. I notified them and said they could not change it.
So I asked to be put on another account and they refused. I quit.
I was also promised they would have an incentive plan going into place if you type a certain # of lines. Two years went by and nothing.
I was really disappointed in OSI.
They also offered to pay half on joint AAMT, which they failed to do.
I am glad I am no longer there.
Format, Font, Choose Font, Style Size & Color
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Make sure you find out what font and font size
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It depends on font size, line length, margin size, etc.
There are too many variables.
Format, Font, pick the font you want,
click the Default button. It will ask if you want to change...say yes.
8243 chars is how many lines?
confused!!! lol
at least you get 1.5 pay...unlike us!
just venting too! And always pressured to work holidays here too! Oh well. Hoping to be doing something else come next year!!! Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR too!
10.5 with major national, 65 chars with spaces,
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What is not understood here is unlike some others,
I am not in the situation to where I have to work, do it now because I have just worked so long, could retire, really don't want to do that so I am satisfied with my salary- even at the 8 cent straight and 4 cents editing, bring home every 2 weeks over $1000 and that is fine with me, no bills, no young kids, no worries.
maybe "black and white" chars. (meaning spaces
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Good grief!!! At least she uses a bb name, unlike...
those (yourself included) who only add a few words in the signature line and never use a "name" twice.
Geesh.
Probably means chars. AND spaces, but possibly not extra spcs
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This was discussed recently. Would be chars. + spaces, but no indents, bold, italics, etc. nm
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Simple to use to, I only have 2 users so $99 for a year which is half the cost of most of the others, and HIPAA compliant, etc. Not sure how cost effective if you have a lot of doctors though, but I like the fact they give you so much space a month, you can save/delete whatever you want to do, no extra charges/mb or kb--metroscript is 14.95 a month (or more) and .34/megabyte of each upload, I would have ended up paying about $120 a month, forget that! I tried the free trial of mydocsonline and it works well for me.
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My margins are changed!
Just went into my acct for a clinic in which I am an IC being paid 12 cpl in MS Word. I have not worked for a week. Today, I notice the margins are changed. Does this change what constitutes a line (isn't it 65 characters per line)??? I go into their system and type on their MS Word via HSI.
I am dumbfounded.
did u hit "justify" on the margins
were your margins "justified" when you made the macro? justified margins will make words space out to make it all even on the left side. delete the macro and try creating it again.
Oh, yeah! And they spend a lot of money in our country, unlike overseas entities.
We've always got Canadian tourists coming through town. They even drive here for medical care because they don't like their own medical care system. It's a give and take thing with Canadians. They're not undercutting and putting us out of work.
Got my margins out of wack, crud
Can anyone give any assistance? My left hand margin with every report I am typing shows up with what looks like a small picture of what I am typing. I have to automatically take with the arrows and move the margin all the way back over so it will not show what looks like a book on the side. My page is divided in other words, instead of 1 page it is showing up as 2. I hope this is making sense and I hope someone can assist this damsel in distress. Thanks!
Did you try changing your margins in Page Setup?
After you make the changes save that document as something...ex: Template Form. Then when you work on that account you can pull your form, use it, and when done save it as whatever it needs to be. That way your Template Form will always remain the same. I don't know if this is what you wanted or not..hope it helps.
I need help in MS Word. I have a new doc that requires almost every page to have different margins.
I used to have an account that we could type Control and L and that would make a page break with the margins for a letter. I don't know how to create this. I looked into macros in Word and am totally confused and have no idea what to do.
Can anyone help me figuer out a way I can assign Control and L for the letter margins and control P for progress note margins. I'd really appreciate any help
Did you look at the margins and formatting and see how your basic template is set up? Never had this
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Alt-P-M, but you can't adjust margins without a section break.
Not sure what you are trying to do.
Need Word 2007 shortcut to adjust margins, as I can't see the ribbon. Thanks! nm
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A gross line is anything on a line is a line. A line set at 65 characters means it sm
has 1-inch margins on each side. The maximum number of characters on that line would be 65 and that includes spaces. If there is 1 character on that line it is a line.
A standard 65-character line usually consists of 65 characters with spaces unless, of course, the employer does not pay for spaces and then it would be 65-characters without spaces.
Anything on the line makes up a line even if just one letter or number. Every line of print is a
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Gross line = each line on page counts as a line, even if it's only 1 word. nm
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Font
only when using a method other than character count, such as gross lines or straight lines. Otherwise, size makes no difference (in transcription . . . LOL)
Font
Font has nothing to do with line count.
font changes
try selecting all text in the template, then while it is all highlighted change your font to what you want- then re-save template and that should do it
font changes
the easiest and surest way to make sure you are changing the entire template is to do go through edit and select all- this will pick up hidden formatting as well
Gross line means anything on a line is counted as a line.
You can get an idea in the difference using documents you have already created, assuming you're working in Word. Simply open a document and check the properties. Click on the statistics tab and you will see the number of lines as well as characters with and without spaces. If you're currently getting paid by the line and a line is 65-characters with spaces, do the math and see how that number of lines compares with the number of lines in your stats.
One thing to keep in mind: if you have a blank line between paragraphs, instead of hitting the enter key twice, format your document to give the appearance of blank lines between paragraphs.
Do you like the larger font?
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Yes like the larger font. Thanks.
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yes! like the large font
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LOVE the new font...THANK YOU!
It's so much easier on middle-aged eyes.
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