Yes, a gay love story about men who also marry women and have children and betray them. HOW sm
Posted By: MT on 2006-01-16
In Reply to: Couldn't have said it better, thank you, NM - Romey
is that a GOOD THING???????????????? Good grief! Oh, bad bad prejudiced society MADE them get married and have families to hide their true love for each other. BALONEY. If you want to be gay, then be gay. Just don't give me all this angst. Not when children are involved. I saw the movie. Phooey.
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when you marry a man with children, they are part of the package. You learn to deal with it.
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Gay guys can be your best friend and truly understand women. I love them.
I would rather have any of the fab five for a friend than some PMS female who is jealous. There is nothing bad about being gay - well unless you are ULTRA "flamboyant"
That should read "are pregnancy women..." And I'll be over around 6 for dinner. I love Lob
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I love my children and willingly give up a lot for them- however
I do not expect them to "do the same" for me in my old age. First of all, it is not the same. I get a great deal of fulfillment and satisfaction from raising my children. The only really hard work is in the first six weeks and then they are so darn adorable you can't throw them out the window anyway. I have never thought of raising my children as a burden - in fact, after 6 years of infertility, two miscarriages and two ectopic pregancies, I am grateful each and every day that I have two children. Now if you feel the same way about your parents - you are grateful to still have them, it's not a burden it's a joy to care for them - by all means you may choose to spend your time caring for them. Parents have had time to plan for their elder years and think of what arrangements may be satisfactory to them. I might add that no one in America loses all their money and ends up out on the street, starving for rice. But I think the attitude towards elder care is changing. I think many people are now willing to put their parents in the nursing home though there is still much angst amongst the Boomers for their "cruelty." A lot of "how could you after all your mother did for you"- that sounds suspiciously like a guilt inducer not a fair assessment of the situation. I owe my children nothing. Everything I have done/will do for them is done freely out of love. Therefore my children owe me nothing.
Internet. And I've never been more in love. Been together almost 9 years and have 3 children
also, he was already established and owned his own home when we met. He had been out of college for 2 years when a buddy suggested the internet. I was going through a divorce (he's 4 years older than me) and lived 5 states away from each other.
Some said I was insane, but now they envy our relationship and the life we've built together. God is good.
I love psych too, but getting paid very much for them is another story (nm)
Boy, would love to know your story, its not good to harbor such hatred - sm
and resentment, does not do anybody any good. You, of course, are entitled to your opinion but I doubt you will find many that agree with you. Chill out.
Hate to hear that love Christmas Story!
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No, you didn't betray him.
Tell him to get his head out of his nether regions. I totally agree with the other poster, though. If you think it's bad now, just wait until you've A.been together longer B.gotten married or C.had children with this man. (God forbid!) Things only get worse. All of the little mind games and blame. All of the imagined slights. Then they justify your alleged betrayals as excuses to "get even" with you by infidelity, alcohol abuse, lying, hiding things, gambling, emotional abuse, verbal abuse, then the physical abuse starts in. And what if he does commit suicide? More importantly, what if the depression and/or mental illness is passed on to one of your children? And your kid commits suicide? I'm not slamming people with mental illness, but it's a long, hard road to love somebody with mental and emotional issues. Suicide leaves a lasting scar on your life. You don't see the signs until it's too late, though. One day, you're going to look back and ask yourself why you put up with his stuff for so long.
Correction - Men and women cheat - men get caught - women don't
I know more women who cheat than the other way around, and the difference is that no one knows about it unless THEY tell them.
No, you didn't betray him! That's his illness speaking. Second, does he or did he ever drink?
Some folks with drinking problems obviously are also alcoholics, but they don't have to fit the classic "drunk" stereotype. My husband "cycles" as well, probably from bipolar, which is manic depressive - the happy ups and the mean ugly lows. Men tend to self-medicate with alcohol. Also, when an alcoholic is in an abstinent period, which can even often be self decided, no pressure. The drinker just lays off for a while - that mean cycle is a "dry" alcoholic. The original problems remain - the alcohol isn't there to give them their conceived happy "buzz", so they are mean and nasty as they could be as drunks, yet sober. The only way to defeat depression in anyone is by confronting it head-on and NOT letting up. Otherwise, you're then "enabling" their sickness to continue, etc. Sounds more complicated than it is, but its not! You're doing everything right - get help from everywhere, tell everyone you have to, shine light on his behavior, and HOPEFULLY he will be convicted to get help. Otherwise, I agree with the others - pack your bags and move on. It will NEVER get better. It will get worse over time, but you'll get more numb to it... No way to live! I confronted it with my DH - fought viciously for his life, really, and he's a changed healthy man about 10 years down the road. People CAN change, and seek help, and get well, but they have to be confronted with it. Denial is our worst enemy. Good luck to you. I hope this helps.
I do this job with young children around and neither my job nor children have suffered...
It can be done...
Women, especially women of childbearing
age (especially this woman) prefer indoor plumbing and a bit of privacy rather than using a port-a-potty. I met a woman recently, she and her husband built the house behind me. She is also a master mechanic and does landscaping, all traditional male professions. She is a bit rough around the edges and I would never have pictured her with the man who is her husband.
I know a few male MTs and if they aren't gay, they missed a good chance.
But why marry?
Why not just live with the guy???
Would you NOT marry someone because of his last name?
I heard this on a local radio station...something like 30-something% of women polled said they would not or had not married someone that they truly loved because of his last name, so my question is...would any of you NOT marry someone just because you didn't like his last name?
I, for one, don't think I would let that stop me from marrying someone I loved and really wanted to marry. However, I am already married and don't mind my honey's last name at all! 
Why does she want to marry him?
Okay, maybe he is blinded by love, blah blah blah, but why would she want to marry him if she loves another girl too? This is insane. You have got a real problem on your hands. Yes, it is his life, but when she is accusing you and your husband of these sort of cazy things - that is when it becomes your life and you need to get involved, not butt out! I know you love your son but you need to have a major heart to heart (alone). I would not subject myself to her in any way, shape or form. He can love her and marry her or whatever and you can still love your son and have a one on one relationship without being subject to this lunatic. She may need to be admitted somewhere!
Would you rather he marry a man? There is a
time where we just have to let our children be who they want to be and live their own lives. I am sure he has thought about this so if it is a mistake, let him make it. It might not be and they might be very happy together. It could be worse and even had he chosen a man...my initial comment...it is still his choice. He is the one that has to live with them so just love your son and do not worry. Be there for him should he ever need you
Why did you marry this guy?
He did not get to be 500 pounds overnight. Maybe if he got up to make his own breakfast and actually went to work, he wouldn't be 500 pounds. I hate to sound judgmental, but my first thought about someone that morbidly obese is that they have some severe mental issues. It is absolutely ridiculous that he is draining the system and you being on disability. I would get out and get out fast if I were you. I would not keep a bite of food in the house and I would refuse to drive him anywhere. YOU need to go on a "diet" and lose 500 pounds! I think you could probably do it overnight.
Marry a doctor...
I absolute would not not marry someone because of their last name!
I would keep my own last name as I plan to do whether I like his or not.
I wouldn't marry someone with the last
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So why did she marry him, cause she's dumb, or it
was a coverup.
Same as saying"who should I marry?" Who
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My husband said he knew he would marry me sm
even before I met him. We have been together since high school - 20 years!
I doubt that. She was dumb enough to marry him.
wish I knew where to go to meet, date and marry a man with a lot of money!!!
nm
Drew Lachey is my future brother in law, that is, after Nick and I marry!
Is he drop-dead gorgeous or what? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Good job! Chose the right man to marry, common goals. KUDOS!
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Quit before I got married. Fiance told me "no way would I marry a smoker," and I was smitten.
Marlboro Reds. I smoked all throughout high school and college before that. Was highly addicted. Had to go for a smoke break between classes.
It's been 10+ years since quitting. Cold turkey. Don't want it, don't want to smell it, won't eat at a restaurant that allows smoking. Fortunately (sorry smokers) in GA, all restaurants are smoke-free now. I like it that way. Can enjoy food better.
BUT, I have a completely different problem that is probably killing me - I'm addicted to sugar and carbs. Highly. Wake up craving it. 40+ pounds overweight. Hate every minute of it. No matter how hard I try, I absolutely cannot stop eating the "white, starchy" stuff. So, the cigarettes may not kill me now, but food might. Sad.
women, sorry - nm
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Its because men R better than women!
HAHAHAHA
You know how when women are together they get their
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insult to women
Some women ask for it?? What an insult to all women. What never blame the guy?? This young woman was acting like a young woman and partying and meeting guys. In no way, shape or form was her demise/disappearance her fault or her parents fault. get real.
why are some of you women so cruel?
There comes a point where we all kind of need each other, when we realize that for the most part, men are big dumb animals who do not know how to "be" there, which is what we essentially need. You as a female should be understanding and supportive when another one says how she is struggling as a "single mom." Women are so hateful towards each other when we're the only ones who make any sense on this planet! I know I sound like a man hater, but men can only do so much, and for those things I have a plumber and a maintenance man! Come on what happened to sisterhood!
Nasty women
You know women should be supportive of each other. Let's face it, men aren't, like the lady said. I worked in offices where some of the women there were so nasty and catty and rude. Seems lots of them are on here too. Thank God for being able to work at home. I don't think anyone is looking for pity on this board, but for crying out loud, doesn't anybody have a warm heart anymore. There are lots of cold-hearted people on here talking, must be from the East Coast.
looks to me like he's got enough women in his life (sm)
he has all of us! Lucky man, kyradmt!
all women in their 40s should go out with younger men
anyway
I need advice from women!
I have no idea what 2 give my sisters (ages 40, 49 and 58) 4 Christmas! They have pretty much everything, so what are some ideas for not too expensive gifts that U gals always like to get? I simply don't know what 2 do! Thanx!
You women have it easy!
All you have to do is cook and clean. We have to go out and break our backs to make you happy! You should feel sorry for us!
Oh, don't even get me started. Thanks to women's lib,
now we have to cook, clean, raise the kids, and work a fulltime job on top of it all. We're doing double duty while the men are whining about how hard they work without making a dent in the daily household duties or child rearing.
If a man wants to go to bed, he simply goes to bed. If a woman wants to go to bed, she has to clean up the dinner mess, let the animals in and out, see the kids off to bed, lock the doors, and every other little unnoticed thing we do.
women.............change the W above to a B....sm
While some gay men do make the best friends, some are also worse b*it*hes than women. I too love the Fab 5 but you are going to tell me that Carson Kressley is not *flamboyant*?? heh heh heh......
And some gay men can be rude, exclusive, nasty, and subliminally rude....even in postings online.....they are no different than other people....in this regard. Nothing is EVER as it seems in life.......
Some of the brightest women (and men) I have met
in my lifetime have been MTs. Some could have gone on to medical school but did not due to obligations to family. In my younger years, worked with more than a few who helped put their husbands through college.
The field is different now. I blame it on the schools in part and also the mistaken belief that you can do this work and be an attentive stay-at-home mom.
Yeh women are the worst
at gossiping. Give them the scoop and they've got a story to tell.
Girls and women
That, in my humble opinion, is what separates the girls from the women. With all of the references we have at our fingertips (Google is WONDERFUL), if you know how to search, you can find what you need. As a success story in MT for over 35 years, I can honestly say that from day one (and yes, I had to learn over the years), I did my very best never to ask for help UNTIL I had exhausted every means available to me and had come up empty-handed. I realize that is much easier to do this when you do not work by the line and every minute is money in your pocket...or not if you are spending a lot of time looking things up.
I see this as the unintended consequences of women's........
liberation. It's been a wonderful thing in many aspects of a woman's life and who the heck wants to go back to the old days regarding the treatment of women and our freedoms, but one of the unintended consequences has been a generation of men who don't expect that THEY should support a family alone and fully expect their wives to contribute equally. Yet, at the same time the men have not jumped in there with the housework and childcare. As a result, women now have the honor of providing for their family AND having husbands who also expect June Cleaver to have the house clean, the kids taken care of, and to have "the little woman" available at their convenience. What are ya gonna do?
Like lots of the women here, I got into MT for that reason (Please sm)
It was the hardest thing I ever did (working at home with the kids). My kids were 3, 5, and 8 at the time (all boys) and needed a lot of my attention. I seemed like I was chained to my computer. I would stumble out of bed and start typing and would be transcribing for hours after they were all asleep (hubby and kids). I was grumpy, tired, and broke. I barely made minimal wage. I was constantly screaming at my kids to be quiet because I couldn't hear my doctors. It was unpleasant for everyone. I finally went in-house to work in 2002 and it was heaven. No more kids (and hubby, and sister, and mother, and neighbor, etc.) constantly interrupting me, no more breaking up fights between my boys, no more paltry paychecks...but I did miss my kids after a couple of weeks on the job. From 2002 on I had part-time jobs at home with Spheris, MQ, and a local lady, but I ended up dropping them all because of the same reasons.
Now (starting yesterday)I'm working from home again full-time. I am worried but my mantra is "school starts on August 29." I figure if I can stick it out until then, I'll be home free! . My kids are older now--7, 9, and 13--but still are VERY high maintenance and are very demanding. I love my boys and I love being a medical transcriptionist--but I am thrilled that there is mandatory schooling for kids! LOL
Good luck to you. It can be done, but it is HARD work.
Take care,
Chickadee
You act like all women are walking wombs..SM
just existing until we do the greatest of all things, BEAR A CHILD. No thanks lady. You have 'em. I don't need to have a child to validate myself in the world.
Exactly. That's how Mary Kay hooks women-SM
by showering them with positive attention, atta girl, you go girl. It is unnecessary and we are not dogs.
The women of the View are the epitome
of every negative portrayal of women out there. They are not girls or ladies. The old broads ousted that one young blonde chick, who was the only one I ever even liked. They're catty, two faced, petty, overly obsessed with material items like shoes or clothes, and just plain annoying. They think they're all that and a bag of chips. NOT! At least I don't have to turn on my TV. Nobody can force me to watch them. Woo hoo!
RUN RadGuy!!!! We women can hound someone even on an
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Why? Do you associate them with elderly women? sm
The hot names today, Ashley, Brittany,Taylor, etc., will one day be associated with old, overweight women and thus be considered ugly, elderly names. Better to stick with classics like Elizabeth, Mary, Sarah.
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