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Yes. Three months paid training? That's just ridiculous unless you're working

Posted By: SM on 2008-02-22
In Reply to: I was offered a job and they said 3 months paid training - Kathy

in the office.  What service can afford to pay an MT for three months of training?


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I was offered a job and they said 3 months paid training
Does this sound like a little much according to what you are posting?
If they offered 3 months paid training SM

it is probably a mentoring program (whether they told you or not) OR they are going to pay you a ridiculously low rate for typing for those 3 months.


20 yrs-6 months training by insurance company
then everything else OTJ
That's ridiculous, since you have been working
for about 3 years.
MTSOs work together with MT schools which do anything possible to lure people into their training programs.

Just keep looking and testing until you get hired.

As far as I know one can only get 'additional taining' through an internship (there are very few out there and they ask for a fee and do not pay for work doneduring the internship)) or to register into a complete program.
There are no short 'refresher courses.

If I were you I would ontinue to apply. And don't let 'them' tell you that you are not good, you are good, they only want your money.
Not getting paid for training

Has anybody run across this? I recently started at a company where after 1.5 hours of training on a new system, I was started on an account BUT after being promised training pay, find that I'm only getting paid production at 4 cpl, no less.(for VR) Obviously I'm making no money. It takes time to learn something new.  Is this even legal? I'm certainly making less than minimum wage.  Is this the standard practice?  Say it isn't so....


You ARE getting paid for training, at 4 cpl...sm
the standard going rate for VR....it is up to you increase your speed to make more money. You didn't know this going in????
You're ridiculous. He's an adult and she can't do that.
She can talk to him, keep the lines of communication open with him, pray for him, but she has to decide what consequences she is willing to accept by where she draws her line of acceptance.

You cannot make decisions for grown children.

What a hateful parent to even try. Counsel them with a tender heart-to-heart but try to force them into living like yourself? HATEFUL.


Check with the school that you paid money to for MT training.
If they can't help you get a job afterwards, then you've been robbed.
So if it takes the client 3 months to pay, you don't get paid? Not cool - I'd
get all your pay first, or at least current up to 2 weeks. Then quit, granted if you don't give 2 weeks notice they will probably hold your "pay". But if pay is to be sent on the 5th, then the 2nd presumably is around the 20th, and after 2 months they are finally sending you a check on the 24th??? As mail to Canada, I would think it would take a day or two longer, but that is it, depends where in the U.S. you are. -Good luck.
No training, sure come and just start working
Just got call from a person I had met before on a trip. Had told her I worked from home and what kind of work. She just called asking if my company had any openings- her daughter wanted to see about hiring on as she "wants to stay at home." I asked her if she had any training in this kind of work- well no but just thought it sounded good. I am so amazed at the people who think they can just "hire on" without the least bit of background, just start "typing" I guess.
so let me get this right...you're IN training right now so
we could definitely call you a newbie. Maybe even a pre-newbie. So you don't have experience either, which means things like FTP sites, word expanders, productivity tips, etc. are new to you. This MTSO is going to give up her time (which Patti says she can do a 15 page report herself in an hour) to train you. So she is giving up anywhere from $30-$60 an hour to train you. Which means she is INVESTING in you and she has a right to get a return on her investment, hence the 5 cpl rate. Then she is offering you work on an account in which you will already have experience on, and have templates and word expansion for. Then you will be doing big reports (which are good because it means you sit in the chair longer and ultimately average better production) in a relatively easy specialty. When you finish training with her (say in 3 months), she will be offering 6 cents per line to a newbie without two years experience and I see postings all the time for 7-8 cpl for jobs that demand two years experience.  So..... I guess it all depends if you have a better offer... but think carefully, because if you blow this one, she'll offer it to someone else and then we'll see you over on the New MT/Student page, whining about how you can't find a job...
Hey, we could be working for the same place. Been there 2 1/2 months, now get ready for change. nm

Sorry Guys - Today is the 1st day in months the site seems to not be working.
???
Same planet as you, hon! And you're TRAINING the program right now. Duh!
That's the whole process per individual dictator, per individual account.  Takes a wee bit of fine tuning, and in a few months, its PERFECT. Just minor editing. Wake up and smell the coffee.  You're training it and teaching it! You're not seeing the finished product, cause it doesn't need you anymore! Some of you just post so foolishly - and anyone could know the facts if they just paid attention and asked questions! You are training ASR and when you're done training it, its 1000 times better than the average skilled MT these days!
Nope. Key is training when they're pups.

My dog knows better than to come near my office space.  I've never had to so much as speak to him.   All I had to do when I set up my office and he stuck his nose in was to say "no" and he's never ventured near since (almost 2 years).


I've never yelled at my dog and have never even dreamed of whacking him with a newspaper or anything.  I just taught him when he was a puppy that no means no, the difference between my "authority voice" and my "fun voice" and that he gets rewarded for his good behavior.


He knows that hyperactivity is for outdoors only and even my kids know that if they want to get the dog hyper, they need to take him outside.  He also knows better than to venture near the dinner table when we are eating.


But WE also know that he is a dog.  Sure he's a "member of our family" but he's a dog.  He has his dog bed, his dog toys, his dog food and his bag of dog treats for good behavior. And this is because?. . . . .he is a dog.


My cats don't come in my office either, but that's because I hiss at them. 



ROFL You're right! Truly! A flying monkey could do this with a little training!
You can get the training on the job as easily as anywhere else.

Like I said before, yes - MT schools will give ground work but it isn't necessary!

Wayyyy too many of us learned this without schools! ROFL

No degree, no certification, no license required!!

Best MTs I've ever known NEVER had "proper education" while those coming from MT schools NEVER got any better than their starting point!!!

ROFL
Once you give notice and quit working, how many days/weeks/months

are you covered by your medical/dental insurance?  My employee handbook does not mention this.  Is there a "standard" period of time that you remain covered?  TIA for your reply. 


If you're talking about the one in AZ, that ad has been running for many months. sm
Lots of discussion on another board about it. Seems they keep the ad going regardless of whether they're actually hiring, just to amass a great big pile of applications for when they do have an opening.
No you don't, BTDT. They're home for a MONTH after 3 months on.
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Working for 9 cpl, not paid for spaces
Does anybody else think this is not good?  Working same account I used to do paid for spaces and working harder for same pay.  Thinking of moving on.
Working at Home/Getting Paid Hourly

I sent in this info to an MT head hunter:


I am looking for a work-at-home MT position that is employee-based, not independent contractor, paying hourly instead of per line or per page, where I could work Tuesday through Friday, 32 hours a week, no weekends, no nights or holidays.


I was told this was a "TALL ORDER," and that I would never be able to find it.  I don't think that I am asking for too much, and that there has to be an MT company out there that is willing to pay highly skilled and experienced MTs what they are worth.  I know there are plenty of MTs out there who say, "Oh, if you work hard enough, you can make just as much per line as by hour,"   but it's been my experience, having worked three MT jobs from home, that that would entail cranking out btetween 1,500-2,000 lines per day...provided there is work available and provided you are getting paid more than 0.12 per line  I've been working 12 YEARS as an MT, but most companies still want to pay me between 0.05-0.12 cents per line.  FIVE CENTS A LINE FOR AN MT WITH 12 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS.  What is wrong with this picture???????? 


If there is a company willing to pay an experienced MT at least $16+ per hour to work at home, please e-mail me!


Re: Working At Home/Getting Paid Hourly
Perhaps. Don't get me wrong, I like where I work and how much I'm making, and this company acdtually has two MTs working at home; however, they are not offering this option to any other MTs at this time, if ever. The at-home MTs from this company are getting paid per hour and have full benefits, but that's only because they've been working in-house at the company for many years. *Sigh*....
Working at Home/Getting Paid Hourly
Sounds like nice work if ya can get it. :) I wouldn't mind picking up tapes, provided that the pick up/drop-off site wasn't too far.
Working at Home/Getting Paid Hourly
THAT SUCKS. You should be making FAR more than 9 cents a line. UGH. And there are still companies offering experienced MTs 5 cents a line.
Rates for working, paid more for stat?
Maybe others but I think mine are probably the average, 8 cents per line for straight and 4 cents per line for VR. My standard 4 are considered history and physicals, operative notes, discharge summaries and consults. A transfer, I think, would be a discharge summary. No extra pay for experience or lack thereof.
My DH paid every dime of his bachelor's degree working....
36 hours a week and going to school.  How did he do it?  He didn't get involved in serious relationships because knee he would get sidetracked and wouldn't have the time to devote to school.  It also helped that he lived in California where state college tuition is reasonable.  For his master's degree, he borrowed the money from  his father (only about 4,000) and paid every cent back right away (this was after we were married and had 2 kids). 
Not a good deal! I get paid 20/hr employee for working with new MTs
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getting paid what (we think) we're worth

You may chuckle at what you're being offered, but there's a possibility that the company you're applying for a position with cannot offer more than that. If they're billing the client 13 cpl but after all of the overhead (401K plans, paid time off, software programs for MTs, employer's share of the SS tax, etc), comes out 5 cpl (which leaves 8 cpl), how are they going to keep enough for company expenses (i.e. lawyers, accountants) and still pay a decent line rate to the MTs.

So, unless you have access to the accounting books and have access to the profit and loss statements, you don't really know why MTs are not offered more than they were in the late 1980s to early 1990s.


We're usually paid by the line SM
I think MTEC is worth it, at least from what I hear.
If you're paid on production, SM
I'd very strongly recommend buying a program. Looking things up in a book takes so, so much more time, and wild card searches are the pits at very best.
If you're not paid for your time
you shouldn't account for your time.  It's none of their business if you have to go to the bathroom or get a drink of water or even load the washer or pet the cat.  They just want control which they don't want to pay for.l
Actually, no, it's poor you! You're the one who paid all the money
ha
Why does that bother you? You're getting paid to type
what is dictated. What does it matter if it is "Mrs. Smith" in paragraph 1, "Ethel" in paragraph 3, or "the patient" in the recommendations? LOLOLOL


Of course not, and that's why we're paid the BIG BUCKS to transcribe.
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You don't care WHAT you're paid???? Gee, that's real sad........
 
Depends on where you work and how you're paid
kj
But we're not paid by bytes anymore..sm
in case you haven't heard lately, am I am being honest about it.  We're paid half of what we were paid 10 years ago, salary is going down yearly on a more or less geometric level...this is line by line, got it?
If you're paid by the hour, and not by the line, YES.
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Made 60K last year working 50 hours a week being paid on gross line
nm
I saw this happen in MQ office while training. Supervisor was supposed to be training but
account was behind so she did transcription while she collected salary for "training" me. Of course I asked others for guidance rather than bother the furiously typing supervisor. I don't know if she cherry picked but she definitely double dipped into the MQ payroll.
We're paying 9 cpl and everything transcribed plus spaces is paid for.
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Why would they care? Management is paid salary and that's all they're concerned with.
We're an expendable commodity to those people. If we quit, we're easily replaced.
Just wait till you're 10+ years into it and getting paid half of that.
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They're still working on that...nm
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You're working against us, then.
?????
You're expected quota depends on whether you are paid hourly or per line. SM

I'm paid hourly and I was told the requirement was 50 or more reports per day.  I've never worked QA per line, but I'm sure their line quota is pretty high, at least 2000 or better per day, as you get credit for every line in every report you QA.


Hope this was the answer you were looking for.


You better stop working for yourself then because you're the one
who started all the sniping and rudeness with your sweeping generalizations.  If trying to hire a good MT has you that frustrated, maybe you shouldn't be in management.  There are plenty of negative people out there who don't have what it takes to run a company.
Well, if you're working in Word
you can use that Word Count and do the math yourself, or there is Abacus.  I don't know of any free line counting programs.  I work in Word and just use the tools in word to count lines.  You highlight the document and count it that way through the tools menu.
They're talking about working for sm
a company doing VR, not doing VR on their own.  Those are the "editing" jobs you see. 
Does anyone else feel like you're always working
i feel like i'm typing constantly!! my whole life is type type type type type
What a lame excuse. Move forward on your lawsuit, cuz you're not gettin paid.
k