What is wrong with prayer, and what rule are you talking about?
Posted By: why not on 2008-04-23
In Reply to: Mention of prayer in reports - Ellie
Many people have different beliefs and it is not just Christians who pray. I would greatly respect any doctor, no matter what his religious beliefs, who takes a moment to acknowledge the importance of the task before him and that he can use a little help from above. We humans, no matter how hard we try, are imperfect. Why are you so offended by someone who prays? And as for a rule ... maybe you are thinking about prayer in schools that is not allowed.
Let me guess ... you are not offended by the doctor who cusses up a storm in his reports, or are you looking up rules for that one too!
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I see nothing wrong with prayer...sm
If a doctor prays with a patient then I think that is fine if the patient is okay with it. As MTs it is our job to type whatever they dictate. So if they dictate about praying we should just type it and not worry about it. It is a job.
Why shouldn't it be part of the report. It is the doctor's report for that patient. If the patient is okay with it it is not for you as the MT, in my opinion, to decide hey this doesn't belong here. The doctor wouldn't have dictated it if he didn't want it in the report. And I believe when a doctor dictates something it is your job to type it. Don't ask questions, just type, unless it is something you have been trained not to type.
I say even if you don't agree with it and if you don't that by all means is your right as an American citizen. But if he wants it in the report just put it and be done with it.
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Thanks again!
MDI Maryland has plenty of work, you are talking about the wrong one - Florida maybe?. nm
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wrong, wrong, wrong. work is being outsourced because of $. period. not because of unqualified MTs
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Wait a minute, I'm not just talking about the boards, I'm talking about the news article.
Specifically,
"JLG has a contract with Arrendale Associates/ A+Network/CBay Scribe, which the group says is in India.
A letter from JLG to Barbara Dingman, chief compliance officer and director of health information management, says all medical transcriptionists assigned to the Medical Center Hospital account live in the U.S. and all work is done in America."
But yet they do business with Arrendale/A+/CBay, what am I missing here?
I'm talking about MT school, not K-12, which is where I learned most of what you are talking abou
My clients DO NOT LIKE IT when I correct their wrong crap - did you actually read what I said?
I'm not talking about ignorant as in grammar or spelling. I'm talking about sm
ignorant in general.
Prayer
I how well I know the pain of grief. I will pray for your friends
prayer
He is going on my church prayer line now too!
prayer
 Praying for your requests also. I also had a very dear friend with ovarian cancer; seems that is something is pretty far along before the symptoms start, or, it was in her case. Bless you!
Prayer
Please rush me a photograph of the child please send me an email for my address etc.
believer
saying a prayer for you
nm
Prayer for 4-year-old boy
I just did pray for him. Please let us know how he is doing, so we can see the result of our prayers.
Thanks.
Lynn
Nice. Will say a prayer for you both.
and Happy Easter to you and yours. You have your hearts in the Right Place. We have lots to be thankful for.
I do not think her issue was with prayer...
I believe what she meant was that she had never heard this dictated before; therefore, she was questioning it. She was not questioning whether it is okay for a physician to pray with his patient.
Wow---chill out everyone! OP said nothing against prayer or
it was allowed in a report.
It's no different than asking if typing someone "makes her money on her back" is appropriate. It's not the subject itself---it's whether or not it should be in a medical document because it's not medical. My answer is yes...if the doc dictates it then you put it in. There have been plenty of things over the years I would've left it, but you just put it in.
There's no reason for these attacks on her though...she didn't say anything was wrong with prayer. She didn't say she didn't tolerate anything Christian.
Everyone is WAY, WAY to defensive on this. She could very well be Christian herself, but you don't know that because she didn't say one way or another and didn't say it was good or bad.
Prayer mention
Why is it that no one has any questions as to the mention of abortions or homosexuality or selling sex in any way, but we question a mention of prayer. Christians are supposed to be tolerant of freedom of speech but we no longer have it it seems. We are supposed to accept differences in cultures but we are not allowed to pray in school openly, but homosexuals for example can kiss and hold hands in schools. I am a very tolerant person I just wonder why things like prayer are not tolerated but rather some kind of violation or "no way" type of thought to others who may not believe. And before anyone blasts me I have friends that are very dear to my heart that are gay both female and male, and have atheist and pagan friends. I believe that we all have the right to believe the way we do and express ourselves freely. I am only sorry that we are looking for "rules" to avoid the mention of prayer.
How do you know they said a Christian prayer?
It is very possible that both the patient and physician are Muslims. You are only assuming it was Christian prayer and getting your panties in a knot based on that assumption.
Christian prayer
I know because I know the docs personally. I am a paramedic and have also worked as a nurse in several docs offices.
A Prayer for the New Year
As the dawn breaks on a new year, let us give thanks for all we hold dear: our health, our family and our friends.
Let us release our grudges, our anger and our pains, for these are nothing but binding chains. Let us live each day in the most loving ways, the God-conscious way. Let us serve all who are in need, regardless of race, color or creed.
Let us keep God of our own understanding in our hearts and to chant God’s name each day. Let us lead the world from darkness to light, from falsehood to truth and from wrong to right.
Let us remember that we are all one, embracing all, discriminating against none.
May your year be filled with peace, prosperity and love. May God's blessings shower upon you and bestow upon each of you a bright, healthy and peaceful new year.
URGENT PRAYER REQUEST
Please pray for our little dog, Fluffy, who is in the hospital right now and on oxygen. We just came from there and he is having a lot of difficulty breathing. He has swelling on his spinal cord and they are unable to do additional testing to find out why because of this complication. Please everyone say a prayer for him that his breathing stabilizes and they can find out what the problem is.
Thank you and God Bless
Thanks to everyone for the advice and offer of prayer - sm
How ironic is this. S works in a mental health unit but they don't see children. The psychologist that Tater does see works with children but I think her 20+ years of experience is missing this particular type of behavior counseling.
Still hoping I will hear back from this doctor I wrote to last night to see if she has any advice to offer too.
Danny's on my prayer list
I'm so sorry to hear this happened. How tragic. I will keep Danny and his family and you -his good friend - in my prayers. Best of wishes to all of you.
I am glad you are doing well. Prayer does work
Mention of prayer in reports
I have never run across this problem in the past. I have a provider stating "we took a few minutes to lift everything up in prayer." My gut says NO WAY. But, I can't find a rule to support that. HELP!
mention of prayer in reports
As mentioned everyone has the right to believe what they want - even Christians. There are several surgeons in this town who pray before beginning surgery. I think it is great, both ways for them and the patient.
Post on prayer board ???
Is that for real? Is it someone here or was that a fwd that was posted? A few things jumped out at me as being inconsistent with the situation presented.
No magazine. It's from me. You're first on the prayer list though!
:)
The auesome power of prayer at work
once again! Sorta puts all our little gripes in perspective.
putting that precious little guy on my prayer chains right now! nm
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It reads like a response to a prayer request.
I will keep your thoughts in mind...
For those that now the power of prayer, please pray for a friend whose 4-year-old son is in the sm
hospital with bleeding on the brain. She is employed in the MT field and really needs our support right now. TIA.
question, but prayer shouldn't be a problem in dictation.
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original poster of prayer sentence information
I am the originator of the post on typing a sentence regarding praying with a patient. I don't care that he did it one way or the other. My concern was that I did not believe that it should be part of a dictated medical report. We don't add patient names. We carefully word sentences so that the patient is not denigrated in the process and patient care not impacted. This is not relative to patient care, in my opinion. I have been doing this job a long time and never had anything like that mentioned in a note before now. Not at hospitals with definite religious affiliations. Not when typing for a physician and his staff that regularly do it. So, I asked a question here. Based on the responses, it will be the last time I do. Yes, I do "question' everything I haven't typed before by verifying the word, disease, medication, etc.
I typed a report on the wrong patient as the doc keyed in the wrong info, SM
He later said the correct patient's name and I SWEAR to this day I made the changes but somehow the report when through without the correct patient and changes made. I still remember that incident.
May God bless the miners trapped in West Virginia. There is power in prayer. Let's rally MTs!
You RULE!
What a win-win situation!
I wish the animal shelters took better care of our pets (since they are a part of the government and all). I don't know why those shelters smell so bad; the shelter in my county stinks so bad that you are constantly aware of it. Taking care of displaced or hurt animals should be a big part of their job, and they could take measures to ensure the animals don't get sick. I understand all about their being overworked, but then someone should report to the higher ups what is needed, and then there should be no problem meeting those needs.
In a neighboring county where I live, the public went toe-to-toe with the director over the animal division; demanding answers about the operations and procedures. (That director said he needed a new building, but the public thought the changes should be made in their operations and procedures.
When I want a dog, I always adopt (so far over the years I've adopted 2 beagles).
Nice post!
First rule of being an MT
That's what I was taught. Everyone is in the same boat and has to take the bad with the good. Refusing to do the hard stuff makes it worse for the other MTs on that account, and they will not appreciate it. Until the problem doctors go poof and disappear, nobody has the right to say they can shove all the bad jobs onto the next MT because THEY are here to make money (everyone is, and someone has to type it). And there is such a thing as Karma - one day you might log on to find ALL the work is the dictator you dread, because all the MTs that came on before you felt entitled to leave the crap work for YOU. You really won't make any money on that shift, as opposed to doing a few bad jobs each shift. So type them as you get them, like the rest of us.
If everyone got together and went to management about the problem guy, that's one thing (and yes, we all feel this way about at least one doctor). Deciding you don't have to do it because you don't want to is quite another, and often grounds for disciplinary action. Work is often just that, hard work, and with time and practice it becomes easier. Nobody promised you a rose garden, challenges are what this job entails.
MY first rule, before being MT. is I have to
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Fantasia wrong??? Haven't seen the OP's CD, couldn't have been too wrong.
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The first rule of being self-employed is that
you set your own line rate. However, we all know that NONE of the MTSOs hiring IC MTs allow us to set our own rate. They "offer" a rate, and we accept if it's OK.
I worked for a real cheapo doctor when I first started out. He paid hourly and kept riding my backside to type faster because he only wanted to pay for the actual time dictated instead of the time it took to transcribe. More than once I told him that it takes an average of 3:1 typing to talking ratio to get it done. It worked out to be $.03 per line. I dropped him like a bad habit. He bounced through a few other transcriptionists who all quit on him before he wound up having to pay to outsource to a service.
as a general rule...
I use an "f" after any abbreviation that I want to expand. I just use the standard abbreviation plus f, so I do not forget what they are. My ShortHand is full of things like this.
ex: cbcf tcpf tshf
Works for me!
date rule
Thanks. My mind just blanked and I couldn't remember. It seems like it has changed so often over the years!
I have been an MT for 33 years and the rule has always been...sm
to use mg when preceeded by a number.
and there are so many exceptions to all those rule! lol
that's the english language for ya! I really don't know.
My rule for semicolons
is that if the two statements support each other and each statement could be a separate sentence, I use a semicolon. Example: He underwent an ultrasound in March 1999; AT THAT time he was noted to have BPH. The sentence you asked about should be done like 'NM'says: He underwent an ultrasound in March 1999, at which time he was noted to have BPH.
Thought that was already a rule
Hmm...I thought that that was already in effect, that no US Govt transcription contracts could go overseas/be outsourced - at least the V.A. has that standard in place...
I was always told as a general rule
it was double. Most of the time, however, I think it is slightly over that.
Rule Books and AAMT
AAMT sure brought this profession to the forefront. However, when they started publishing their own Bible (BOS) there are a lot of grammatical errors in there. Also, the styles they use are not accepted in this part of the country and will be considered "errors" by the client, hospital or clinician who do not want their reports set up in this manner. It is wrong to test people on a style that is not accepted in their part of the country. You are only forcing people to learn a "new style" which the facility in your area will consider completely wrong. Then the private company will comply with that particular hospital and change the set-up. Sadly, the person who took the test and did not use the BOS has a lousy score and is not considered for the job although s/he meets the set-up criteria for hospitals in the area where they live. Go figure, spend all that money for the book, or just test and get 100 per cent and then study the style of the facility who is paying for the work and then be 100 per cent right. Don't judge all tests by style, wait and see what the hospital is paying you wants for the style. You are putting the cart before the horse. Been in long enough to know that the BOS is absolutely not the "Bible" and the testing companies should take this into consideration. You could study this book until you're blind and then have to "unlearn" it to comply with the paying $$$ facility who is the ultimate "boss" of how the work will be turned in and accepted. Kabish? If I turn in a discharge summary in my local hospital according to the BOS style, I would be considered a total idiot. If I used the local hospital style for testing nationally, I would probably rate a 65% on what the hospital would consider 100% correct for style and grammar. Can't win.
It's the AAMT new BOS rule on numbers.
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