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Well, Saddam refused to allow the UN weapon inspectors to come in and

Posted By: sm on 2006-02-16
In Reply to: What problem in Iraq was that exactly? - That there WERE no WMD? sm

look for WMD's. This problem just didn't come up in recent years. These evil nasty my way or the highway countries have been causing trouble for millenia and will continue to do so until something is done about them - and done right. If you don't mind living under threat of terrorism, go ahead and sing your Girl Scout songs. Clinton didn't do squat regarding the Middle East. He didn't want to and he didn't know how to, so he chose to ignore it instead.


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    Saddam...

    Hussein is not the only person who has killed thousands of people in the country he rules.  If this is justification for sticking our nose where it doesn't belong, why have we ignored the tortures and genoicides in Africa for the past 3 decades?  Oh, right - they don't have any oil, do they?  Just poor, starving, desperate people that we continuously turn our back on, like Rwanda.


    Harsh. I guess in your book, quality inspectors
    in widget factories don't have real jobs, either.

    I'm positive your QA people don't have any beef with you whatsoever as long as you are creating something real QUALITY.

    QA people are under just as much stress as the rest of the MT world.
    Rod is a guide, not a weapon.

    Please read the following if you think spanking is okay.


    Spanking can cause a sensitive child grave psychological damage.  You probably won't even see it, and the child may never tell anyone or even recognize what it is.  Please, please, if you insist on spanking your child, at least give that child an outlet for the anger that follows.  When I child is forced to feel anger/shame directed at the person(s) they depend on above all others, and then to suppress that anger, it can cause significant, lifelong problems in his/her ability to have healthy relationships.


    Another reason to reconsider spanking is the prevalence in today's society of spanking being related to sex - it's all over the place, and unless your kids watch no TV, no movies, read no magazines, and have no access to computers, they are eventually going to come across this.  It can be very confusing, very upsetting.


    From:  http://www.stophitting.com/religion/faithMaterial.php


    All of the biblical quotations advocating corporal punishment of children are taken from the book of Proverbs in the King James Version of the Bible. They were written by King Solomon, and presumably reflected his parenting beliefs with respect to his own son.


    Proverbs 13:24
    "He that spareth his rod hateth his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."


    Proverbs 19:18
    "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying."


    Proverbs 22:15
    "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."


    Proverbs 23:13
    "Withhold no correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."


    Proverbs 23:14
    "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)."


    Proverbs 29:15
    "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."


    The Bible itself records the negative effect of Solomon's parenting style on his son, Rehoboam. He became a widely hated ruler after his father's death and had to leave to avoid assassination by his own people.


    What would Jesus do?


    If you take the Bible seriously, you have to notice Jesus' attitude toward children. It was wise, loving, and filled with compassion. Even when anxious adults wanted to shoo the children away, Jesus rebuked the adults. "Of such," he said, "is the kingdom of heaven." Given this attitude, it's hard to conceive of Jesus hitting a child on any occasion or for any reason. It's simply not consistent with what he taught. If Jesus wouldn't hit a child, why would we? SpankOut Day is dedicated to exploring alternate means of discipline. We believe that Jesus would approve. A simple slogan for Christians to consider might be this: the next time you are tempted to hit a child, ask yourself "What would Jesus do?" Then go and do likewise.
    Reverend Dr. Thomas E. Sagendorf, Senior Pastor
    Bexley United Methodist Church, Bexley, Ohio


    Wisdom from the Talmud


    Many people who strike their children do so not because they are evil or mean, but because they believe they are doing God's will. They often cite the phrase in Proverbs: "He who spares the rod hates his son." The problem is that pulling one line out of the Bible ignores the rest of the text. Much of the Book of Proverbs is filled with good counsel on how to be a better person. In Chapter 22 we are taught, "Train a child in the way he should behave, and even when he is old, he will not depart from it." Isn't it possible that the rod Proverbs refers to is to be used to point to lessons on the wall? When we fail to properly educate our children, we not only spoil them, we show them the opposite of love. We must use the rod to point out right from wrong, not to beat our children into submission the way slaves have been beaten throughout history. Even the Talmud says, "If you must strike a child, do so only with a shoelace." When taken in its entirety, Judaism can hardly sanction the use of violence against children. Even the famous sentence in Deuteronomy to stone to death the stubborn and rebellious son, was, according to the Talmud, never carried out. Instead, while discipline was and still is crucial for raising healthy children, striking a child need never occur. The mix of discipline and love is the recipe for a good future for our sons and daughters. The Talmud suggests: "A child should be pushed aside with the left hand, and drawn closer with the right hand."
    Rabbi Larry Kaplan
    Temple Israel, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania


    The Law or the Spirit?


    In the book Spare the Child, Philip Greven suggests that our readiness as fathers to strike our sons explains why we men grow up so ready not only to tolerate but to perpetrate violence in our culture. A boy picks up his moral cues from Dad: "Dad hits me when he doesn't like what I have done. Therefore, men resolve differences by violence. If Dad did it, it's OK. I can hit people myself, especially when I think they've done wrong and therefore deserve it." Often a boy who has been spanked won't respond later to love, but only to more spanking. The Law, that is, has supplanted the Spirit within him. God's story of Israel says clearly that a son lost in the Law can be restored to appreciate and respond to a relationship with the Father only though crucifixion. In this case, that might mean the father's dying to his pride and asking the child's forgiveness, then begging Jesus to show him whatever brokenness in himself has led him to resort to the Law and how to become hospitable again to his Spirit's rule.
    Reverend Gordon Dalbey, Santa Barbara, CA
    Author of Fight Like a Man and leader in the Christian men's movement
    Quoted with permission from Fight Like a Man


    Also see:  http://www.nospank.net/toc.htm


     


    I think it's the Weapon of Choice - sm
    video he did that makes me think of him as "sexy."
    The rod should be a guide, a staff, not a weapon.

    Please reaad the following if you think spanking is okay.


    Spanking can cause a sensitive child grave psychological damage.  You probably won't even see it, and the child may never tell anyone or even recognize what it is.  Please, please, if you insist on spanking your child, at least give that child an outlet for the anger that follows.  When I child is forced to feel anger/shame directed at the person(s) they depend on above all others, and then to suppress that anger, it can cause significant, lifelong problems in his/her ability to have healthy relationships.


    Another reason to reconsider spanking is the prevalence in today's society of spanking being related to sex - it's all over the place, and unless your kids watch no TV, no movies, read no magazines, and have no access to computers, they are eventually going to come across this.  It can be very confusing, very upsetting.


    From:  http://www.stophitting.com/religion/faithMaterial.php


    All of the biblical quotations advocating corporal punishment of children are taken from the book of Proverbs in the King James Version of the Bible. They were written by King Solomon, and presumably reflected his parenting beliefs with respect to his own son.


    Proverbs 13:24
    "He that spareth his rod hateth his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."


    Proverbs 19:18
    "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying."


    Proverbs 22:15
    "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."


    Proverbs 23:13
    "Withhold no correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."


    Proverbs 23:14
    "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)."


    Proverbs 29:15
    "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."


    The Bible itself records the negative effect of Solomon's parenting style on his son, Rehoboam. He became a widely hated ruler after his father's death and had to leave to avoid assassination by his own people.


    What would Jesus do?


    If you take the Bible seriously, you have to notice Jesus' attitude toward children. It was wise, loving, and filled with compassion. Even when anxious adults wanted to shoo the children away, Jesus rebuked the adults. "Of such," he said, "is the kingdom of heaven." Given this attitude, it's hard to conceive of Jesus hitting a child on any occasion or for any reason. It's simply not consistent with what he taught. If Jesus wouldn't hit a child, why would we? SpankOut Day is dedicated to exploring alternate means of discipline. We believe that Jesus would approve. A simple slogan for Christians to consider might be this: the next time you are tempted to hit a child, ask yourself "What would Jesus do?" Then go and do likewise.
    Reverend Dr. Thomas E. Sagendorf, Senior Pastor
    Bexley United Methodist Church, Bexley, Ohio


    Wisdom from the Talmud


    Many people who strike their children do so not because they are evil or mean, but because they believe they are doing God's will. They often cite the phrase in Proverbs: "He who spares the rod hates his son." The problem is that pulling one line out of the Bible ignores the rest of the text. Much of the Book of Proverbs is filled with good counsel on how to be a better person. In Chapter 22 we are taught, "Train a child in the way he should behave, and even when he is old, he will not depart from it." Isn't it possible that the rod Proverbs refers to is to be used to point to lessons on the wall? When we fail to properly educate our children, we not only spoil them, we show them the opposite of love. We must use the rod to point out right from wrong, not to beat our children into submission the way slaves have been beaten throughout history. Even the Talmud says, "If you must strike a child, do so only with a shoelace." When taken in its entirety, Judaism can hardly sanction the use of violence against children. Even the famous sentence in Deuteronomy to stone to death the stubborn and rebellious son, was, according to the Talmud, never carried out. Instead, while discipline was and still is crucial for raising healthy children, striking a child need never occur. The mix of discipline and love is the recipe for a good future for our sons and daughters. The Talmud suggests: "A child should be pushed aside with the left hand, and drawn closer with the right hand."
    Rabbi Larry Kaplan
    Temple Israel, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania


    The Law or the Spirit?


    In the book Spare the Child, Philip Greven suggests that our readiness as fathers to strike our sons explains why we men grow up so ready not only to tolerate but to perpetrate violence in our culture. A boy picks up his moral cues from Dad: "Dad hits me when he doesn't like what I have done. Therefore, men resolve differences by violence. If Dad did it, it's OK. I can hit people myself, especially when I think they've done wrong and therefore deserve it." Often a boy who has been spanked won't respond later to love, but only to more spanking. The Law, that is, has supplanted the Spirit within him. God's story of Israel says clearly that a son lost in the Law can be restored to appreciate and respond to a relationship with the Father only though crucifixion. In this case, that might mean the father's dying to his pride and asking the child's forgiveness, then begging Jesus to show him whatever brokenness in himself has led him to resort to the Law and how to become hospitable again to his Spirit's rule.
    Reverend Gordon Dalbey, Santa Barbara, CA
    Author of Fight Like a Man and leader in the Christian men's movement
    Quoted with permission from Fight Like a Man


    Also see:  http://www.nospank.net/toc.htm


     


    You seem to forget the HUNDREDS of thousands Saddam killed, execution style.
    x
    Don't blame you - I refused also.
    nm
    Never actually refused to do one doctor out of many, SM
    Usually they're just part of the averaging out, and I've never had an account where I couldn't make acceptable money.

    A few times when one was truly consistently horrible I just started sending all those reports to QA with masses of blanks, rather than fighting to fill them in as much as possible. The forwarded reports from someone who tries to send as little as possible to QA, and the intensive work they require, hopefully spoke for themselves to someone closer than I am to the people who have to stroke and handle the clients. At least I never had anyone fuss at me for it. To the contrary, my employers usually want as little time as possible wasted in struggle instead of production.

    Speaking of stroking clients, thank goodness I don't have THAT job in these days of scrambling to somehow hold onto accounts...
    Maybe if we all refused to do cruddy Dr, they
    x
    Has anyone ever refused to do an account or doc? sm
    I am so frustrated and pulling my hair out here.  I do editing for 0.03 cpl for my MTSO but I also have my own docs straight typing and make good money from same MTSO.  My problem is the editing.  I am not just filling in blanks.  I am basically having to retype half of the reports.  I mean the names are not even correct even though they get patient lists.  It is such a waste of my time and money as I may be earning max of $10/hr off the editing, yet my other good money making accounts get behind.  I want to say I can't do the editing anymore or pay me more, but I am worried about risking my good accounts if I do so.  Anyone been in this situation before and how did it turn out?  Any suggestions for me?
    I agree. I have already refused to do it.
    It is never going to work. The MTSOs should at least make sure that the MTs can use their bloody systems and make money on it BEFORE cutting their pay. Most of the ASR systems I have worked on are a complete joke! However, it is not funny when the joke is being perpetrated against your paycheck.

    The only way to fight VR is to refuse to be used to train it to further cut your pay :-(
    I agree! I just refused a job with a company because
    the tech didn't do what he was supposed to do for my computer to work with their software and then got extremely upset with me when I questioned him about it. He told me that if I had used their computer, these problems wouldn't have happened and it would have been so much easier and better for HIM! So much for support for the MTs. I guess we should all acquiesce to what is best for tech support and help to make their lives easier, not the other way around.
    I'd inform the boss of this and if he refused
    to pay, I'd turn him in to the labor board and then I'd quit but just like MT world there will always be someone willing to work for free thus nothing ever changes with making employers do the right thing.
    If a job can be rejected, refused, or hung up on, it's being cherrypicked. nm
    s
    No, my turkey is still in my freezer. I refused to cook this year.
    I'm either going to cook it at Christmastime or slap some Cajun sauce on it and BBQ when the 18" of snow melts.
    That's true. My parents refused to fill out the FAFSA
    because they weren't going to help me go to college at all. The school counselor just blew me off after hearing that. They wouldn't even talk to me at all and I couldn't qualify for anything on my own without my parents filling out that stupid form. "Adult" children are considered dependents by the government for financial aid considerations until they are either 22, have been married for a year, or have children. I was 18 and a high school graduate but still couldn't afford to go to college working two part-time jobs for a total of 50 hours per week. I wasn't able to go to college until after I was married with two kids to qualify for student loans.
    The national I worked for refused to pay mine when I decided to move on for better pay.
    Hope it works out for you!