Unfair! WHY OH WHY will someone from AAMT or whatever they are now
Posted By: MSMT-CMT on 2007-09-14
In Reply to: India and CMT - US MT
PLEASE explain to we suffering and underpaid, unappreciated MTs WHY they are in India's back pocket and why they have abandoned us. It used to be an association for US now it seems it's more for scummy foreigners. So unfair.
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OK, that was unfair of me to say.
Maybe it was just sour grapes or mother guilt on my part. The first 10 years of my marriage were pretty tough. I did not have a choice but to work and put my kid in daycare. We agreed before we got married that I would be a stay at home Mom and not use daycare. Life's plans don't always work out, though. We had a lot, and I mean A LOT, of setbacks. Life could have been worse, but it was dark for a long time. Every time I thought we were crawling out of the muck, life would stomp me on the head and force me back down again. It was always something. Layoffs, company closings, car accidents with uninsured drivers (their fault), hit & run, injuries, medical bills. The old daycare argument will never die, but it's not fair to judge people who need or want to use daycare. We could be like other societies that use nannies and ship their kids off to boarding schools all year. Using daycare has its pros and cons.
unfair .
Hello!
What's up with this warning and banned from visiting the website etc.. I am currently in US and have no idea as to why the administrator sent me a message saying I am banned from visiting the site.
Is this how professionals are treated for visiting the website and spending a lot of time reading their website.
Well I would rather look jobs somewhere where one is respected and qualifications valued than for MTStars.com
I am really upset with the mail they have sent to me.
I know it seems unfair, it really does.
The FASFA serves many purposes and so it cannot take those things into consideration.
That is where developing a good relationship with your FA advisor comes in. Your school can qualify you for other grants, scholarships, loans, and work-study programs.
that all seems so unfair
there has to be a way that can monitor a transcriptionist's workload. they should not be paid for eight hours if it is only taking them 6. they should be rewarded only if they go above their line count. when i went home to work, my benefits stopped. they stopped taking taxes out as well.
wow, how unfair!
For some of us it is an excellent choice. After 30 years I still like what I do. That to me is an excellent choice! Plus I managed to earn enough to put my kids through college without loans and pay for weddings without any help on top of it. So if you made a bad choice, change it, but don't make such a negative blanket statement. Don't make your problem someone else's.
Just as you probably feel that it's unfair...
to put someone down for choosing to homeschool, it's also rather unfair to say that your parents "didn't care enough" to homeschool you. Maybe that wasn't in vogue when you were in school, or maybe they wouldn't have had what it takes to do that. Most people are not capable of teaching THEMSELVES all the subjects taken in high school. Even high school teachers major in ONE area and are not even credentialed, qualified, or allow to teach outside their earned credential. It's rather bold of some parent, in my opinion, to think they can adequately educate their older children themselves.
definitely UNFAIR. You are our 2nd set of ears and still MTs. NM
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It was unfair of me to have lumped all
pain management specialists into a group of uncaring physicians, and I apologize, but I see stories like the OP all the time. I have done dictations concerning people who have become addicted by physicians prescribing whatever for whatever reason and then when the patient complains of addiction, the docs just dump them "permanent and stationary" and the patient is on their own. Some docs even make desparaging comments about the addicted individual in their dictations. They don't try to help. It is discouraging, to sat the least, and throws a bad light on all doctors then. But again, if your doctor is compassionate, maybe he should consult with the above OP, if within the area, which is a long shot, but a thought. She needs help, and not just Valium. Again, I apologize if I offended anyone.
You guys are mean, mean and unfair
Honestly, hopefully you two never make any mistakes because if you do you will have quite a ways to fall off of your pedestal. Everybody has trouble the first day, I hate first days and even the first week. But if they can't take the time to help out of the first day and point out where the errors were -- even if it was terminology or usage or whatever -- they are not worth working for. Believe me it would have only gotten worse as the time goes by. If they cannot give you help on your first day imagine what it would be like on the 5th, 10th or 25th or if after a month you made a mistake. But to prejudge like you two have, like I said you have sure put yourself on a pretty high pedestal. I agree a reason should be given because you can never correct a mistake unless you know you have made one and if I have made a typo during this message - forgive me but I am a little upset with the above two posters.
This is totally unfair. sm.
I too have been saving and studying hard to take this test but now I don't feel that it means anything. You don't have to be CMT certified to find an MT job but HELLO. AMERICAN Association for Medical Transcriptionists.
THEFT? That's going a bit far and is unfair..sm
While I agree that cherry-picking is not fair, either, I wouldn't go as far as to call it "theft". The MT is doing the same work, a day's or line's pay for a day's (or line's) pay. If you were to go to a store sale, and someone else were to pick out the most desirable items first, would you also call that stealing?
More importantly, I would not blame your fellow MT. (They are trying to put food on the table the same as everyone else.) I would blame the crappy, thoughtless dictators, and those who have made outsourcing possible, thus leaving all the crap work for us "cherry-picking" MTs.
Exactly! It's just inconsiderate to your neighbors and unfair to do something like that!
People think they're being funny or cute but making your house look like a piece of crap is rude to the neighbors and DOES make their homes worth less than they should be. I agree that they should be forced by law to change it back.
This "list" you speak of is really unfair though (sm)
There are always two sides to any story. And, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been through this in one way or another but....
I've been an MT for 18 years now. About 10 years ago my life was a mess and I was dealing with some substance abuse issues (alcohol). I was never fired from any job because I always quit before it came to that, but I did burn many bridges in the local area. The quality of my work was never called into question, it was always attendance issues.
I'm just saying some people do grow up and change. I did. But I understand weeding out good MTs from not so good ones isn't necessarily an easy job either.
Unfair labor practices
I'm an independent contractor and the company I work for is offering bonuses to some ICs, but not all. I know I could choose not work for them, but this is a pretty shady practice. I'm also routinely shorted on my pay, though they make it up the next month. I would like to do something about it if possible. Has anyone ever filed a complaint with EEO or Labor Relations for something like this? Thanks.
downright crappy and unfair!!! SM
MQ paid 30% less pay for ASR reports, and they took just as long to edit as they did to type sometimes, so was very frustrating. I have heard some companies pay straight line rate difference, i.e. if you make 7 cpl typing, you'll make 4 cpl for ASR. It is totally unfair, as like I said, it does take quite some time to edit ASR, some more/less than others. Needless to say, I left MQ for KS, who does NOT do ASR!!!!
Unfair! A % of a long report going to be much
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Unfair Workload Assignment
When looking at the workload assignment especially on weekends, I find it very unfair that people with exclusive privileges and trainees get to take all the good work when I have to do all the difficult dictations and ESLs before getting to do any good stuff. Work is always supposed to be taken according to date order (which is clearly not the case). I am so mad right now, I am literally screaming!
Just goes to show if true how UNFAIR MQ is. Those who have been with MQ for years..
MQ SUCKS!
That's unfair. Everyone has a B-Day, but Mother's Day is made up. Ditto for Valentine's Day
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Oh, someone benefits from AAMT - AAMT DOES!
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I would move on. I think it is so unfair not to be paid for spaces! I think we should get paid
per keystroke, but that'll never happen. I just think that these national companies are going to keep finding ways to cheat us. I found a job working for a hospital as an employee, paid hourly plus incentive, and they let us expand everything! Somebody's gonna have to kill me to make me give up this job. I will never go back to the national's again.
I feel for you though. I know that for us MTs those good jobs are few and far between and some have little choice but to work for the nationals. I just happened to luck into the job I have now. I just applied at the right time.
Good luck to you whatever you decide.
AAMT BOS
Well hey, spelling a lot as one word is commonplace too; does that make it okay?? Do they really think MDs keep up with all the illogical changes they come up with? Do they realize that MDs actually take the time to edit stuff they don't recognize to be correct? What good is it if it actually causes MDs to stop and edit??
AAMT
It's just too bad that AAMT has not taken an assertive stand for the American MT and keeping confidential patient records in this country. For such a long time medical record administrators have fought the concerns of medical transcriptionists since the 60's. There was always a divisive agenda from medical record librarians (as they were called then) toward the transcriptionist. They didn't want to see the Transcriptionist come to the forefront of the medical records industry, nor did they like the income transcriptionists made(then) -WHAT? a transcriptionist make more money than a medical records librarian? I still see it now - you see AHIMA's hand down the back zipper of AAMT puppeting what direction they want AAMT to go - minimize the importance of the professional medical transcriptionist and rushing to automate the medical record with ASR and EMR. Ask youself this question - how many of you believe that many of the "QA" people at the nationals are discarded or displaced medical record technicians or the like? Many of the medical record administrators lost their jobs about 10 years ago during hefty layoffs when hospitals began a surge of outsourcing and many of these people had to seek jobs in the transcription industry for national companies as sales people, administrators, and QA people. I can't begin to tell you how many RHIT people haven't a clue about medical transcription. I've worked with so many who got a lot of things wrong legally but hey, because they were above the transcription department, they were right. Don't question them.
AAMT
Have to afford those trips to Hawaii somehow.
AAMT
I know. It is so strange. I was just on the AAMT forum. I know if I start making "waves" I'll be considered a troublemaker. It is really said what is happening in that organization when it could provide such a boost.
AAMT
That is how I have been feeling. A friend of mine says I need to run, but I'm afraid of how it would be handled. -
AAMT
Thanks so much. You are right. I will contact this gentleman.
well, according to the AAMT BOS...sm
"Always place periods inside quotation marks." <<< see, like I did! 
Ah, yes. The AAMT.
Medware offshores. They don't pay well, either. I see by your other post that you won't work for acusisindia, what's the difference? Offshoring is offshoring.
AAMT = Against American Medical Transcriptionists
AAMT
I don't think you read my message clearly. There are many options to AAMT, not just one. AAMT is pushing for licensure as it is. That will do just as much harm as anything else in the end.
AAMT
AAMT is nothing but a poor parody of a high school sorority. It touts itself as being a professional organization. It is neither professional nor organized and needs to go the way ot the dinosaur and die.
AAMT
What I blame AAMT for is for touting themselves as a "professional organization" when they are neither professional nor organized.
AAMT/BOS??
I hear the rules are always changing in the AAMT/BOS.
And you have to admit, it doesn't really matter what the AAMT/BOS says, it's what the doctor prefers, right or wrong.
According to AAMT BOS, you do put
an apostrophe to form the plural of single letters and symbols. The values will vary from patient to patient. 
AAMT
AAMT is totally useless; everyone knows that. They're a bunch of aging prima donnas. You would do better to invest your money in a good basic grammar book than anything AAMT has to offer.
Jim
Where is AAMT
They're too busy deciding who is white enough and straight enough to belong to give attention to relevant issues. I abandoned them in the 90s when I saw first-hand what their agenda was. It isn't to help the average Joe or Jane Transcriptionist, believe me.
AAMT
AAMT is a dinosaur.
AAMT BOS
Yes, and dangerous abbreviations list instructs cc should be replaced with mL as well. I agree a lot of it is silly, but there is some useful information. Some doctors appreciate it, other doctors want verbatim always and don't care for it.
AAMT
I will conveniently stay anonymous, but I completely agree with you. I cannot afford the membership dues. My former employer is sponsoring a discounted membership with AAMT for MTs who want to join. I think this board is invaluable and agree it probably does have a lot better information. I know of other MTs who used to be AAMT members who could no longer afford the membership and dropped it. Besides, I think you can visit their website and obtain info that way. I bet the book you purchased is a good resource as well.
AAMT
AAMT does not only support offshoring, I believe they are responsible for it. Apparently, you don't know that they offer their CMT test and credentials to MTs in India? Nothing very "American" about that.
Also, you will find that most AAMT officers are from MTSOs that offshore work. If you dig deeper, you will find that these MTSOs were pioneers in offshoring work. I belonged years ago, but then I decided they were just a bunch of egomaniacs out for their own glorification.
I can't see that they have done anything positive for the MT business. I think it's gone downhill since AAMT came into the picture.
Like she said, AAMT...
Yes, the AAMT website has a great instruction guide for setting up and maintaining a QA department. It is the QA Primer 2004. I used it to establish a QA department for one of the medium transcription companies and they love it.
Can one sit for the AAMT's CMT
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AAMT
If the AAMT gets their way and gets an apprenticeship program apprvoved, MTs are sunk. Students will come out of the top 3 schools ready to work, but will have to work for lower line rates as apprentices. So who do you think the MTSOs will hire?
The AAMT has applied to the Department of Labor to get this scheme going. We are sunk unless we oppose it and state that the AAMT does not represent the majority of MTs. The group that wants to represent us is sending us right down the tubes. We have to stop them before they go any further with this scheme.
Did the AAMT ever ask MTs
whether THEY wanted this apprenticeship program? The AAMT wants to pretend it represents MTs. If you want to represent someone, you take the time to do the groundwork to find out what the people in the industry want. You don't sit down and come up with a deal and send it to the Dept. of Labor, letting the Dept. of Labor think that this is what the majority of MTs want, and THEN try to sell it to those who make up the working body.
That is NOT the way to attract support. This is why the AAMT is accused of being elitist. The AAMT does not use the boards to poll working MTs. It tells MTs what they SHOULD want, SHOULD do, SHOULD think.
Ask first, then act. Don't try to sell us some scheme after it's all put together, and don't try to fob it off as something the majority wants. That is dishonest.
That turns the majority of MTs against the AAMT.
When we are making the same wages as the MTS who live in other countries, maybe the AAMT will wake up and feel a little bit of guilt about their part in taking us down.
Thank AAMT for this. nm
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AAMT now just AMT?
This is in reference to their now teaching overseas to outsource our work:
I myself do NOT feel comfortable having my information sent overseas, including my name, DOB, and often SSN listed in the demographics screen of each note. I have heard stories of prosecution (or lack there of) by identity theft from people in other countries. Maybe Americans should start boycotting or protesting the healthcare industries that outsource overseas!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: AAMT BOS, etc.
Thanks for your honest, non-rosy answer about switching from in-house to at-home. We have actually been gradually switching over to a more rigid adherenct to the BOS, but it's been a hard sell for lots of the older docs, who want it their way or no way at all. And some of us older MTs aren't too thrilled with lots of the idiotic, picky-picky stuff the BOS throws at us. So far we've reached a compromise, where we MOSTLY adhere to it, but other things we do the doctors' way to keep them happy. I would have a hard time with with verbatim, because one of our ways IS to do SLIGHT changes in grammar for some of the ESL docs. But they can be only very minor, and the rule of thumb is when in doubt, don't do it. For the most part I sort of like the ESL guys better, because at least they try harder to be understood than many of our English-speakers.
I found your answer very forthright and valuable, and will definitely add it to my "cons" list! :)
AAMT
Throwing good money after bad, and sending our work to India.
AAMT
What a waste. You can get all of that free off the internet. Those CEC's you are talking about are worthless and not transferrable.
AAMT
Is it still the rule with AAMT to spell out WHOLE numbers zero through nine, use numerals for 10 and above or did they change this with the 2nd ed.
Also what is the standard font and size used nationally.
Thanks - Sandra
According to AAMT BOS 2 sm
"With proper nounds, capitalized words, numbers, and abbreviations use a hyphen to join a prefix to a proper name, capitalized word, number or abbreviation, i.e.:
non-CMTs
non-Hodgkin-type lymphoma
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