To the "not paid for spaces" question
Posted By: tia on 2006-01-25
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Why is not being paid for spaces the norm? Don't you have to tap the space bar just as you have to tap a letter key? I don't get this. This is just another way to reduce our income. DON'T ALLOW IT!
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They used to not pay for spaces, but a poster here said they are getting spaces paid. Are there 2
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I would move on. I think it is so unfair not to be paid for spaces! I think we should get paid
per keystroke, but that'll never happen. I just think that these national companies are going to keep finding ways to cheat us. I found a job working for a hospital as an employee, paid hourly plus incentive, and they let us expand everything! Somebody's gonna have to kill me to make me give up this job. I will never go back to the national's again.
I feel for you though. I know that for us MTs those good jobs are few and far between and some have little choice but to work for the nationals. I just happened to luck into the job I have now. I just applied at the right time.
Good luck to you whatever you decide.
Paid for spaces
Was told years ago that the account I was on did not pay for spaces even though the contract I signed as SE said I would be. Was told that we were compensated by being given the headers and footers in our line count (yeah, right). Was then told they didn't want to lose me so if I was totally unhappy to ask my manager for another account which did pay for spaces. I, of course, was told there was no other account available at that time. On some unscientific studying and counting, figured out was losing 13% to 17% of my counts by not getting spaces. This is one of the reasons MQ is being sued by the employees in the lawsuit. Don't believe anything management tells you. Just count them for yourself.
At 9.5 cpl what are you really getting paid without spaces.
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Why spaces are not paid for... sm
I once worked with a Transcriptionist who would pad his reports with huge lines and lines of spaces that would go undetected. He (yes he) would be paid for these elaborate line counts (we had an incentive program). If you adjust the pay rate for characters only with no spaces according to an appropriate line rate, you are assuring yourself of not being cheated by some MT who thinks they can get away with padding spaces into their documents. True story.. now lets see the end of this endless discussion.
Are you sure she gets paid for spaces?
So it would not equal to 7.5 cpl.
paid for spaces
I do get paid for spaces. We take the character count INCLUDING spaces and divide by 5 to get our word count.
I think spaces are paid for. However, there
may only be 1 space in between sentences, which is set in Word. From what I have read, the eScription platform does not pay for selection of demographics, headers, or footers. Many commands are not allowed, such as specific symbols, bold, underline, tabs, and indents, to name a few.
This is how eScription is saving hospitals millions of dollars. Yes, VR is very profitable for hospitals. Of course, that would need to compare the savings to their operating costs. However, They only seem interested in saving TRANSCRIPTION costs! So, the bottom line is, MTs are working harder and harder each year to make a decent wage, while management is working harder each year to trim our lines. This is not the MTSO but the hospital administrators.
I had a physician recently tell me, "Transcription has sunk to the lowest of the lows." I told him, "You only get what you pay for." Pay nothing, get not much in return!
Curious..MQ and spaces...paid or not?
I have read many post from fellow MQers. Some say they get paid for spaces. Some swear they do not. I know I get paid for spaces and have been with them since January, Denver office. For those of you who say they do not get paid for spaces, is this a new phenomenon? What office do you work out of and for how long? Have you copied reports in Word and counted characters and spaces? (I only have 'Works', which only counts characters, but have manually counted spaces and added that to the total characters and have come up with the same count as MQ is paying me. Now, all I have to do is take my character count and add about 22%, which is the percentage of characters that I have found out are spaces. MQ's count is always right on. So, just curious if some are not getting paid for spaces and if they know that FOR SURE! Not getting paid for spaces makes a 22% pay cut! That is a LOT! Now, I am not looking into starting any kind of battle here. But just really am curious if this is the 'wave' of the future with MQ, just certain offices, new hires, or what. Thanks! 
Need feedback on getting paid for spaces vs not....
have an offer from AccuScribe in South Carolina, 9 cpl, but no spaces. Would like to hear opinions please, whether good or bad! TIA!
Working for 9 cpl, not paid for spaces
Does anybody else think this is not good? Working same account I used to do paid for spaces and working harder for same pay. Thinking of moving on.
Want to get paid for headers, footers and spaces?
Just in a silly mood.... 
i do NOT get paid for spaces, my best friend does.. both out of the same office -- go figure
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We're paying 9 cpl and everything transcribed plus spaces is paid for.
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What the heck does getting paid by a 55 black character line?? Does this mean without spaces and doe
You just never know if this is a trick to somehow rip you off of lines. I am just very skeptic of it since I have never heard of anyone using this formula before.
My line including spaces is 65 characters. I've heard that not counting spaces
takes away over 35% of your line count. I believe it too because you have at least 15 or so spaces on each line that you type. Use your first sentence up top as an example; you had 77 char and 21 spaces - in that line that would be a little less than 30% of your characters that you didn't get paid for. I don't think it's worth it and wouldn't want to work without getting credit for my spaces.
For QA consulting I'm paid per hour; QA instructing (college) paid salary, QA editing paid per li
I am an IC and work for two different MTSOs as well as instruct at a business college.
I know Spheris just started this "not
being able to correct timesheet.
Uh oh, another Spheris/MQ look alike. What's up ? ? ? ?
She didn't just "not" tell people, she
deliberately misled people into thinking she had done it all by diet and exercise, which is a lie. She could have and should have just refused to discuss it, instead of lying about it.
If you don't want to tell me, fine, don't tell me, but don't lie about it.
it's cut in pay he's complaining about; not that it's "not a real job", there's a
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correction: "NOT ours", instead of "now ours".
Thanks to "not a living computer" and others who responded...sm
I am very grateful for your responses and I agree with much of what you have been requesting. In reality, however, it may take a while for a brand new company to offer 50% of what you requested. Could you or would you be willing to start with decent pay, good communication, excellent Q&A with constructive criticism, samples, and a regular group of dictators? It may take time to grow into a company that can give you even 75% of your dream job requests. Those are my long term goals. Now, can I give transcriptionists all of it as a start-up? Probably not but I am trying to find out what I can and what I cannot promise and, more importantly, deliver! So, once again, thank you for your responses and keep them coming!
"Not fondly"--SO true! Who'd ever go back to THAT? NM
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do you know how many kids come in the ER on an overdose and the parents say "Not my child?" nm
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I heard that they are explosives, but there will be a "mushroom cloud" and "not to worry ab
not nukes though
Can we PLEASE desist using "NOT!" in this manner? It hasn't been funny since ྔ. nm
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Pay No Spaces, Type No Spaces nm
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without spaces compared to with spaces
10 cpl without spaces equals to how many cpl with spaces?
Spaces versus no spaces....
Can someone tell me how big of a difference it makes if a company pays for spaces versus no spaces. I have only every been paid without spaces. I have been offered a position that pays for spaces, but the cpl is less than I am making now. I am not sure if getting paid for spaces will make up for the pay cut. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
if mt paid 9, editor paid 4 or 5...how can company charge 14 and make it..sm
I know the going rate in our area is 14 cents per line. As MTs most companies here pay us 8 or 9 cents a line. Now add in the Editor rate at 4 or 5 per line..you are paying OUT more than you can charge a line. How would companies stay in biz?
Unless all work is sent by the company overseas at pennies per line, this would not pay for a company.
just curious how this works out
But how much are the US EDs gonna be paid? Typically this work is paid at 2-3 cpl. nm
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You don't get paid an hourly rate you get paid by line - sm
so because of how you are paid (not an hourly rate) you don't get OT, especially if you are an IC.
If those companies paid a fair wage, and paid more
all came out equal, people wouldn't feel the need to try to make up the deficit by going for the good stuff. I actually prefer the harder, juicier reports. But I can't make a living doing only that, because the pay is not commensurate with the difficulty. So even though I prefer not to, sometimes I have to pick up some of the easier, more boring 'line-o-matic' reports just to make ends meet. Tell your MTSO to make it work their while, and MTs will stop taking all the easy work away that you obviously would prefer to keep for yourself.
You wont show UE being paid because it is employer paid -
the employee will never have to pay this.
What you "should" be paid and what you "are" paid
sadly are two very different things. Good luck on demanding more..because someone else will just come along and take it for what they offer and they know it. 
10$ late if invoice is not paid within 10 days. At day 15 work stops until invoice is paid. Hardly
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DQS no spaces? Are you sure?
Are you sure DQS does not count spaces? When I first started, I took a report and manually counted each and every character, space, return, etc, and found that the lines count I was given for the report matched (rounded up) my manual count. Even now, I copy and past every single report to Word Perfect (which does not count spaces on my version), and DQS always exceeds my Word Perfect character count by a bunch, so I figure I am not being cheated. Take a medium size report, print it, and try counting manually and see what you think.
I know they don't pay for spaces
So tell me why when one day I did 800 lines and then 3 days later it shows I did 670 lines when I actually did 800 lines. The 800 lines is without spaces, headers, footers. So did those lines magically disappear? This happens to me weekly.
spaces
LOL. I think we need to transcribe a few reports without spaces..heck, let those being paid hourly fill the spaces in.
spaces
LOL. You just made my whole day.
iwoudn'tmindtypingaletterwithnospacestoday.
BTW that is really hard to do.
spaces
anycompanypettyenoughtonotcountspacesisacompanytostayawayfrom. Who'spocketdoyouthinkthe$forthespacesislining? Quite frankly, I've been a med trans for nearly 30 years and I'm so damned tired of watching big business cut into our means of living. How did all this start anyways? Used to be in the old days that we were all just ICers looking to make a living, and we did in fact make a decent living. Then came the introduction of nationals and everyone ran to them thinking they'd be making BIG money.......Now the nationals are in place and their CEOs are making the bucks we thought we'd get a piece of. Wish there were a way of reversing this.
Spaces
She's lying. MQ does NOT PAY FOR SPACES. They treat their transcriptionists like crap. I found this out and left them. I found it out for a fact.... They do NOT PAY FOR SPACES. They have started this "trend" and other companies have begun to follow suit. They make me physically ill.
Spaces
Been there 2-1/2 months. Love it. Plenty of work.
Issue: Spaces. Recruiter said no spaces. Trainer said no spaces. 
On the line count screen, clicked on one of my reports, then had an option to look at payroll stuff on it, so I did. It added up not only every single character I typed but spaces AND carriage returns (I had 719 spaces and 56 carriage returns) and used that number divided by 65 for my line count. NO KIDDING. I am surprised.
Who knew?! I'm excited! 
spaces
Was this on DQS? And could you give more detail on how you did this (i.e., what exactly did you click on to get this info?). Thanks!
spaces
I was told years ago that I was not paid for spaces on the account that I was on, but some accounts were. It depended upon how it was set up when they won the account. I think that's why there are some who are and some who are not, thus the confusion. The only way to know is to manually count your lines and compare them to what the system counts.
10 cpl with spaces. nm
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What about spaces?
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no spaces
I kind of messed up my original post. I meant to say that spaces are not included. Thanks.
I think w/o spaces is 30% less than with spaces. nm
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They do pay for spaces
At one time they did not pay for spaces but they do now. They are fine to work for- I have worked there 3 years and have never had a problem. They do not lie to us and they don't make anyone work 7 days. They are a stickler for quality.
Pay me for your spaces or else...
If they don't want to pay for them they must not feel they're important...just don't type them and then see what they say. : )
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