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This is interesting (non-compete clauses)

Posted By: anon on 2006-11-04
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My contract has a standard non-compete clause. Basically, that any subcontracted Transcriptionist will not contact or contract with any clients of my service. I finally had a transcriptionist ask for this complete list of clients. Makes sense, because how will they know who to avoid if they, well, don't know? But I would much prefer they didn't know to begin with. I don't want to tip my hand by giving someone a list of my entire clientele base. Does this seem fair? I feel I should reword my contract to avoid this in the future, but I am not sure how to do so.


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IMO I dont think there should be those clauses in contracts...
This is a very competetive career plain and simple and the clients should be able to choose if they want someone else who is better and/or cheaper. Most importantly, most of the companies offshore anyway so if the client chooses to go with someone who doesn't and that person happens to have been with the previous service, the doctor should most definitely be able to!! Not to mention, I feel those services who put that in their contract are not very confident of their own service to have fear of losing clients. Maybe they should better their service to where they need not worry about it. This is of course a debatable issue and i am sure there are many points in both directions, but this is just MY opinion. No flaming intended.
To compete with who? (sm)

They quit teaching MT in my area at least 5 years ago because there are no jobs in the area.  Hospitals are on EMR and there is no available work in the area.  The schools here were probably sued because people couldn't find decent paying jobs, LMAO!


Who says you have to compete
Obviously the AAMT is more interested in the offshore projects anyway.  Doing something like a BOS with some common sense has nothing to do with them.  Frankly I think a book with tips, tricks, samples etc would be much better than what is currently being offered.  Of course AAMT can't be competed against.  I don't think the idea here is to go after the companies or take over what the AAMT has done.  The idea to have a real organization for MTs here in the United States.  A place where MT opinons really count and the power that be won't sell out to the highest bidder.
Non-compete
I believe all "honest" ICs will willingly sign one since I have been burned before by an MT who went behind my back and stole my account from me!! I was terribly burned and as a small MTSO, I believe in them very strongly. If you want to keep your accounts as an MTSO, have your MTs sign a non-compete. If your an IC, think about it from a MTSO point of view, would you want someone to go behind you and take your business away?! JMHO.
Non-compete clause
This goes on all the time but I must say that it IS stealing! Shame, shame on you!
non-compete agreement
GA girl, where are you? Do you have experience with a n.c. agreement in GA?
non-compete agreement
I read the posts below about the n.c. agreement and wonder if you have any knowledge of them. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
no compete contract...sm

I think I know who you're talking about...almost positive! Gosh, I wish we could post her name here so others in our area would not become one of her many VICTIMS!


Please email me if you'd like...I'd be more than happy to help y'all in any way I can...bestest of best luck to you...I hope you kick her crooked a$$ in court!


Non-compete agreements

Who has had to sign one with their company? Are they enforced? How long was your non-compete arrangement for? Thanks!


Non-Compete Clause
Length of time?  Depends on the verbiage and the company you work for - some want you to wait 6 months, others a year before you approach their accounts.  They are designed to pretty such save MT companies from people stealing their accounts, wreaking havoc.  If you don't plan on stealing work, don't worry about signing it.  Think about it - you might not like the hospital, quit the job, change companies - so would you really WANT TO STEAL THAT WORK??  I didn't think so!  LOL!  There isn't much an individual MT can do to "steal" an entire account anyway.  If a hospital or doc changes, it's because they don't like the company you are working for.  After being in this field for 15 years, I have never seen anyone prosecuted for theft or anything involving the no-compete agreement.  Basically, this is nothing to worry about...unless you have a hidden agenda.
owners trying to compete
The companies are trying to keep their profits high, be competitive with India and the doctors want to pay next to nothing. It's a tough business right now. I would look to other options or really push for more money. I wouldn't work for less than 9 cents. On the other hand, there are MTs out there who think they are very good, but they are honestly terrible. I think if you push for a quality company and sell yourself and you truly are worth the money, you will get it.
It is a reality in this business. It is the only way for them to compete, but it
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Is it really a gift when you have to compete for it? Nonsense.
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can we get an update on the no compete contract

we have to compete for our prize for MT week
We have to find stuff in our work like a certain med, or the oldest person,and the first person who finds it gets the prize.  There were only 10 prizes to give out and there are lots of employees.  I didn't even participate because, frankly, they can kiss my patootie.  They should be giving EVERYone something, like, maybe a RAISE, instead of implementing a bogus game where a fraction of the employees win.  Do they think we are second-graders? 
we have to compete for our prize for MT week
We have to find stuff in our work like a certain med, or the oldest person,and the first person who finds it gets the prize.  There were only 10 prizes to give out and there are lots of employees.  I didn't even participate because, frankly, they can kiss my patootie.  They should be giving EVERYone something, like, maybe a RAISE, instead of implementing a bogus game where a fraction of the employees win.  Do they think we are second-graders? 
If you haven't signed non-compete forms...
with a company you are employed by now, and you leave the company, is it acceptable (legal) to contact a client of theirs and offer your IC services if you really want that account as your own?  Any suggestions from anyone having ever done this before would be much appreciated.
No way, I am having no problems with productivity, only that my pay has been reduced to compete
with the global market, that is a fact.

Now please with all respect please do not offer your opinions on my situation, I am sensing a little attitude here and I am not interested in your opinions on that. Thanks.
Both? I thought Spheris had a "no compete" rule.

At least that is what I was told.  Or maybe this is just a new thing?


I fail to understand what the "competition" would be.


Walmart is good. The regular supermarkets are going to be forced to compete.
It all works for the good of the consumer.
Well, isn't this interesting
A job ad on another board caught my eye.  It stated they pay on a 65 character line plus numbers and punctutation.  If they are stating they DO pay for numbers and punctuation, would that not mean that some companies are not paying for those items???  OMG, it just gets worse and worse the way MTSO's are finding new ways to screw the workers.  Gee, no wonder we were told to not spell out numbers any longer. 
I think it's interesting as well....
While MTs often think it's fine for them to throw out every negative they can think of about a company, they tend to freak to think a company might tell the negatives they experienced about the MT. Why is that?  I understand the need for MTs to support each other, it's good for us. Yet surely we arent' so naive as to think every MT is good, skilled, and has a work ethic that should demand the kind of respect they seem to feel entitled to. In my experience, it's not always the company who is at fault, thus I take everything with a grain of salt and make my own judgements.
Yes, she has a very interesting bio
and she seems like she is a genuinely nice person.  Just not a fan.  (feeling a little less contrary now)
Yes, well its interesting the big 3 will be for me...
if I decide go to school, I work in Health Insurance and here a lot of words and I process claims and thought I would try a practice tape of a friend.... thanks for the help
I think it will be interesting to see how many--sm
"big stars" donate millions to the relief effort. Bono and Brad Pitt went to Africa--will they go to our South also??
VERY INTERESTING
This is probably similar to what I have heard about, called EMR (electronic medical records). I work for a very large orthopaedic clinic (as my part-time job) and I have been told that they are going to implement this in the next two years, but they expect with all the docs and everything that it will take three to five years to totally run with it. It upsets me because it will eliminate the need for Transcriptionist as well as billers. Apparently this EMR does it all. I'm trying to get my finances in order so that I can go to nursing school because I don't feel secure in the field anymore. I am a single mother and I have over 20 years experience. It's just a shame.
Interesting! I know somebody

a check for around $100.


I thought too it was just for folks who had typed on DQS, but not so!


So, the mystery continues.


interesting
Wow, that is interesting. What have your topics been? Maybe the info was too helpful and someone was threatened? Who knows!
so interesting
Your comments are so interesting to me. I have had the same experience with MQ and it has been really difficult. I've gone into debt working for them. What I don't get is why they wouldn't want us to produce. When we produce, they make money. It's a no brainer. What's the deal?
interesting
My first husband I met at a work party (I was a paramedic). He was a cop who volunteered part time. My second I met online in a chat room. He messaged and said "I'm looking for a wife" and I told him "well good luck to you" and shut him off. 9 years later here were are! My oldest son met his wife online, and I did a singles ad online for my ex and he met someone and married as well.
Interesting...
I own a service, and the ladies who transcribe for my clients are referred to as subcontractors, not independent contractors (ICs).
Interesting
If anyone has used this, please share your experience.
Interesting
I can't wait to be out in the field learning medicine everyday. I am learning now in school, but it isn't the same. I am not good about reading the news mostly because of my lack of time. Transcribing would keep me in the loop much better. I think of Oncology, and I think sadness. You are right it would be interesting to see the new technology that prolongs life.

Interesting ...
I've run across few of us with the same name in this biz.  Nice, I guess, to know there's at least another out there.
That's interesting...sm
I had to have a license when I had an "office" outside of home with employees, etc.,  but not now since working at home.  Been home for 8 years now without one and my accountant says I don't need one.  I know many, many IC's at home none required to have a license.  I'm certainly not arguing with you, just think that is strange.
That is quite interesting, but
I have always considered myself a pretty good judge of character. For instance, the first time I saw Mr. Mason I said that he had nothing to do with the disappearance of his fiancee, who later came to be known as "The Runaway Bride".

Anyway, I really feel that in the case of Patsy Ramsey she is innocent. (I think too that her battle with ovarian cancer began before the murder took place . . . can't remember for sure.)

Another thing, I see the photos of Van der Sloot and the Kalpos, and I can just see the horns, tails, and pitchforks as though they were part of the picture . . . I'll be surprised if it is found that they had nothing to do with the disappearance of Natalie, but no matter what I feel certain that they are up to no good.

interesting
To see these responses.  I have been in 25 years and I think it's getting steadily worse.  I was single and divorced for 9 years prior, and I think those must have been "the good years"!  Maybe not as much $, but a LOT less stress!  At my age, I don't need it!
Interesting!!!

I did go to your link and found out it is KForce.  I looked at their jobs and they do have positions for traveling transcriptionists (also for traveling coders).  It looks like the MTs are needed in Pittsburgh and somewhere in Oregon.  Also looks like the pay is $20/hour. 


That would be fun to do.


But don't you think a hospital would send out work to a service rather than have a temp come in to do their work?


That would be interesting to know -
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Very interesting
Now I see why so many errors in reports. Some of you are tuned to the tube instead of paying attention. Yeh, Im talking about you, I know who ya are.
interesting
I am probably going to get bashed for this, but I have to say it is interesting how this thread has just totally spiraled and how it keeps going around and around with basically how hard this and that job is, and how great this or that job is, and how great this or that education is.

My experience with has been this... When I was a CNA, some of the LPNs at the nursing home would never miss a chance to gloat about how superior they were because they were LPNs and we were "just" CNAs. When I was an LPN at my first hospital job, there were those RNs who could never miss a chance to gloat at how superior they were because we were "just" LPNs. As an LPN I then worked at a medical equipment company and primarily dealt with insurance submissions, the enteral feeding line and incontinence line. At that job, I was viewed as lower on the totem pole by some because I didn't have maybe as glamorous job as someone who did marketing for wheelchairs or something like that. Now that I am doing transcription, I run into the you are "just" a typist.

I have to say that if I waited for everyone in the world to think that my job was important to feel satisfied doing it, well... it could be a long wait. I know that in each job I have had that I am making a difference to someone somewhere by doing my small part, and knowing that I am doing a good job is my own satisfaction in itself.

This whole situation reminds me of that Dr. Seuss book/movie about the star-bellied sneeches... any moms out there know what I am talking about?
Interesting...
Class and Style? I would rather have a job.

Thanks for sharing your opinions, but the bottom line is simple: people do MT training in order to have a career and income. That is why people turn to Career Step.

Speaking of class and style, you should visit the websites of various schools; it seems Career Step is winning in that department, too.
How interesting! Thank you. nm
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That's interesting

I'll have to try that.


I have been setting up one row the way I want and then doing just a Ctrl-C and pasting it into the next row. Once I get a few rows built up, I copy the block of rows and paste a block at a time.


Fortunately I have decided to let this account go so I won't have to do this much longer. If there are any radiology MTs out there looking for pretty much all the work you can handle and then some, click on the link below. It's a good account, but I have two other part-time accounts that provide enough income and I just don't need the stress.


 


Interesting you should say that
Actually I used to drive truck before I did MT work. Believe it or not, I make more money now than I did then. If the wheels aren't turning you make no money, just like you don't if your fingers aren't typing.
Isn't it interesting?
I find it interesting to see how everyone reacts to a message like the one posted. Years do not give you a leg up in this business, knowledge and application of it do, however. I have worked in all aspects of this business and I have come to realize that certainly not every MT with years, with a CMT, with an HIM degree or that sort of qualification makes you a good transcriptionist. It is not about time in .. it is about what you know. It is not about the technology per se, it is about how willing are you to be flexible and learn the new stuff and it is very much about showing up to do your without an attitude. It is about not cherrypicking while at work because you respect your colleagues! It is about helping those around you be better at what they do that strengthens your own resolve.

How many companies fail because they cannot find dependable help, knowledgeable help who do not put a hang nail before showing up for work and doing their shift. How many need continuing education to stay current in this business but feel it is an intrusion.

Perhaps Dee was taken out of context .. she has been in business for years and has very good things to say about her MTs. Ever been in a room with MTSOs joking about the people who work for them? Most unsavory, let me tell you!! I am not defending Dee if the quote is what she said, but I might point out too that M-TEC's reputation is a good one amongst MTs primarily and that to me is the best advertisement for a program - how well the grads have done overall. My phone rings and I get stoked about some new atrocity every single day, but I have long come to realize that I can only watch my own back and I have settled down into doing just that and to preserving my very own ability to be employable. I find it works well! I am making good money and I have pulled the knives out of my back and am finally sort of having a life!
interesting...
These are some interesting posts. I had the same thought, that maybe he thinks this career is not impressive enough, because he certainly was proud of me when I was a cancer registrar. This makes me wonder. But anyway, I am not out to impress anyone. If this is what he is feeling, then he will have to get over it. He is very academic and you may have touched on something here. I will ask him when we are talking again...
Yes it is interesting...
but you must admit that some of the questions asked are very basic.  I look at the word board all the time just to see if I can figure out what the poster is asking.  For instance, the posts by AJ.  If this person had an ENT reference book, it would be very easy to go by what she/he is hearing, look under fracture and they could have come up with zygomatic. Less time than it takes to post and wait for an answer.  Same with the other 2 questions AJ asked.  Very basic. 
that's interesting

I was just checking out that site for filesanywhere.com - I gave them a call - they said they are a "webfolder" and I am checking into that - it sounds like a possibility, but any other ideas still appreciated. 


Have you ever used filesanywhere or know if it works well for anyone?  Thanks


Interesting...
Most cardiologists I've typed for over the years have been pretty persnickety about the accuracy or what they dictate; cannot imagine any of them putting up with badly transcribed reports. What kind of doctors must these be, I wonder. Spooky.
Interesting

So you put your phrases first, and your words second in the phrase side?  How do you do this?  I am horrible at reading comprehension and have read the book that came with Instant Text a million times but I still get confused on some things.  I have been putting things like "anticoagulant therapy" as "anth" on the phrase side as well.  Can all of these smaller entries be moved down to the bottom of the list?  Any help or suggestions is welcomed.