This is getting ridiculous. I REFUSE to buy yet another edition of the BS of Style.
Posted By: SM on 2008-04-22
In Reply to: BOS 3rd edition changes sm - astheeer
Those broads at the AHDI or whatever it is called now have too much time on their hands! They need to get real jobs. Get back out there in the trenches, have someone QA the crap out their work, and see how they like every changing quicksand of MT.
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Do you have the AAMT Book of Style Second edition?
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Error in Book of Style 2nd edition!?
Hey! I just paid over $60 for this dang BOS (my new employer requires I have one), so I'm studying it diligently, and on page 297 they're referring to Salter-Harris fractures as "Slater-Harris". Thought I was going nuts, checked Stedman's and they say its Salter. Am worried there are other errors in it, and I won't know it! Do they publish their bloopers anywhere?
I'm not a member of AAMT (and probably never will be, I'm not a joiner), but I'm pretty doggone disgusted I just shelled out that kind of money for published errors, especially after reading repeatedly in the book how regular MTs aren't worthy of putting letters after their name unless they've been certified by the all-knowing AAMT! Guess I'd never pass their test since I'd say Salter-Harris instead of Slater!
Anyway, I feel ripped off, especially since all editors/employers act like the AAMT is holy like the pope! Thanks for listening to me vent!
You need the Book of Style, 2nd Edition, to work out here. Some used
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AAMT Book of Style-2nd Edition
I am a new MT, I was wondering if anyone was selling any "AAMT Book of Style-2nd Edition" or the CD Rom version? Also looking for a current Medical Spellchecker?
Please let me know
Angie
angifogg@aol.com
The AAMT Book of Style for Medical Transcriptionists, 2nd Edition,
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I have 1st edition AAMT BOS, company requires I have 2nd edition.
I don't think you can just get updates but have to buy 2nd edition book. I need cheap. I did find one place for $70, anywhere cheaper? I checked the equipment board here for the last month and didn't see any offered.
My 1995 edition (called the 1st edition by most)
is 519 pages long.
Maybe you're thinking of AAMT's old gold Style Guide for Medical Transcription? (though my 1985 edition of that is only 70 pages long)
they don't REFUSE to hire new MT's. They REFUSE to hire them at 6-8 cents per line.
mostly because you can now hire experienced MT's at 6-8 cpl. In the near future, you will be able to hire experienced MT's at 5 cpl. Then people will start getting out of this business and new people will stop trying to get in. I had a job opening and asked people to bid what they wanted per line. One very smart young lady was a new grad and bid 3 cpl. I hired her a year and a half ago, she has been terrific! and I was willing to spend my time training her because a) time is money and she saved me money so I could spend my time and b) she had definite potential!. In another six months, she will be the MT with 2 years experience applying for jobs. AND she will get them because she will test well and essentially "bought" her experience. So use Economics 101...
Please ask style questions on the Style board.
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I refuse
I have a second job and their information is on there as well. I could see it if it were company provided email, but to randomly want to look through email and files. I have medical information on my computer for my family and they have no business looking at anything. As a requirement of employment, we had to show we have antivirus and spybot protection or we had to download theirs. They delete work done about about 10 days, so no files remain and during that period of time, nobody could access those files without the proper log in as they are part of their own designed typing system. I don't believe for a minute this is regards to protecting their information as the statement mentioned sending out information about the company via email.
5th edition is out now!
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I'm using BOS 3rd edition .nm.
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BOS 3rd edition changes sm
For those who do not have the 3rd edition of AAMT BOS, thought I would let you know the changes. Just got my copy. I think some of them will take a lot of reeducation. I do QA, and I know how hard it has been to move everyone toward putting 3-cm lesion. Now we have to tell them it is wrong! Sigh....
* Dropping the use of hyphens with numeric values and metric units when forming compound modifies (2 cm incision rather than 2-cm incision)
*Dropping the use of periods in most lowercased Latin abbreviations, like legal abbreviations (et al, eg, ie, viz, etc) and literary reference abbreviations (p, pp, sec)
*Continued trend toward dropping the use of periods with abbreviated personal and coutesy titles unless it is known that the person in question prefers the inclusion of a period (Dr, Mrs, Jr, Sr)
*Dropping the use of a comma to separate a person's last name from titles, such as Jr, Sr, or roman numerals following a person's last name from titles, such as John H Smith III.
*The inclusion of a space between the numeric value and the degree symbol when expressing temperature values and their scales (using degree sign)
*Dropping the space between parameters when expressing TNM staging for malignant tumors (T2N1M0 rather than T2 N1 M0 OR T2, N1, M1)
*Dropping the use of subscripts with EEG electrode references.
If we all would refuse to do bad dictators - what can they do about it?
Let them do them themselves or have their fair-haired Indians do them.
Let the mush-mouthed doctors get back mush-typed dictation. It would be fair.
Tonight I had so many questionable lab values it made me sick. I also got a non-ending stack of bad, foreign, indistinct, unable to speak English doctors --- you know the guys who end up at the bottom on last day of the payperiod.
I have gotten to the point that I want them to say "This isn't right!" and stomp their feet, because I want to go nose-to-nose with these jerks. Just mess with me suckers! I'm ready. I'm premenstrual and I'm ready.
If you have 25 years of exp and refuse SM
to be on the supervisory side of things, that's your problem and not your service's problem. You sure think you are important if you expect the management to consult you on every supervisory hire they make to see if it meets your requirements.
Actually one now, but some people refuse to let go of the old way. SM
It took me forever to train myself! I finally made a macro.
Do you honestly think that you can get MTs to refuse to go to
People have enough problems getting to the physician of their choice due to insurance hurdles!
Your idea is very admirable but in today's economy (especially with all the moaning and groaning about NOT making enough money to live), you are more than unrealistic. Perhaps a handful, literally a handful, of those MTs who have husbands who provide very well might opt to do that but who/what is that going to serve? The well-supported MT club?! lol
You've waited too late. Besides, what are you going to use for your platform to reach the masses? These message boards where only God knows who visits (ID and numbers) -- eventually the owners will tire of your use of their services and probably charge you. Of course, you have television - a very, very expensive medium. Perhaps some trade magazines, again advertising costs. And what will the members who live far away get in return for their hard-earned dollars?
What product/service are you going to offer?
Everyone's just full of these ideas but no one is putting a reality in there anywhere.
You are wrong. An IC can refuse
someone else. The OP should not have to make-up work. Also, anyone who is committing to lines or hours should then be paid as an employee. I don't get how these companies can force an IC to type a certain amount of lines. That is wrong. An IC has every right to do as much or as little as he/she wants to do. I know these companies don't like that and some MTs allow it, but I for one am an IC and am not expected to transcribe any amount of lines and when there is no work, there's no work. That's it. If there's work, and I want to type, I type. I can also refuse even the accounts I am so-called expected to be doing without any problem. There are other ICs that work for the same company that are able to do the work if I cannot. This is how it should be. The OP is not wrong in her thinking and no she is not overloaded due to her own fault. A contract that states a certain amount of lines in a certain amount of time is considered employee. Check the IRS site if you think I'm wrong. There should be no control in that form at all.
Maybe if refuse to do bad dictators, they will
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refuse to quit
I told him of some of the posts on this board, even the few that were leaning in favor of him, and he says I am not painting a true picure of his concerns. He said that I have given up a good job with benefits and healthcare to now be a contractor and have to pay more for benefits and not even have a retirement plan with the company to fall back on. His company does not offer much in the way of benefits to spouses, so I had to get my own. I admit, I did have better benefits in my old job and this business is not as stable. He feels he is only being concerned for my welfare and that I am misjudging him. We just do not agree on the situation. But even if I go back to my old field, I will still do MT on the side because I love it. I have worked too hard to give up now.
IF MQ LETS YOU GO, ARE YOU GOING TO REFUSE TO TAKE $$ FROM THEM?
Be honest.
REFUSE to do QA work for CPL
Notice to all greedy MTSOs out there: I will NOT work for cents per line in QA. You will not be making money off of my knowledge and painful hours I have put into this profession.
I will be a Wal-Mart greeter before I let you make another dime off of my back and I hope all experienced QA people do the same.
This is ridiculous and insulting!!
Stedman's 4th edition is even better...
than the 3rd. It's true there may not be every single radiology term in Stedman's, but I don't know of ANY reference, text or electronic, that has every know term. For any book on ANY specialty to have every conceivable term is impossible - unless we want books 10 feet thick.
AAMT BOS second edition-sm
Does anyone have this for sale for a reasonable price or know where I can purchase it for a reasonable price? Thanks in advance.
stedman edition
u dont know how much i appreciated this bit of orientation. I just started my first oficial transcription job at a nephrologist office. I'm so proud of myself after trying in within two years to KICK my foot in the door. This week has been tough but I'm learning and quickly catching on. I just cant wait till I can effortlessly fly through my reports. Thanks for the advise. I will purchase my book through ebay tonight.
thank you again,
rookie
The 5th edition was put out in 2006. Definitely
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BOS 3rd edition is being released
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AAMT BOS Third Edition
Anyone know when the third edition is due to be released?
I refuse to do it. I have research papers, etc.
get in the habit of doing INCORRECT things just to please AAMT. If it means I can't be an MT after 25 years of MTing, then so be it. But I learned English many years ago and every other facet of my life still requires PROPER English/punctuation and I'm not going to learn a bastardized version for AAMT. AAMT can kiss my hiney!
If I were married, my husband would not refuse to let me do anything
of this nature. I had a husband like that. I got rid of him very quickly. I am who I am and if I want to go back to school, I would tell him I am going back, which is what I did. He demanded I stay home with the kids at all hours of the day and night. I told him bye.
I agree and I refuse to do any sort of
make up time because I feel if the work is not there, they cannot expect me to work the hours I said I was unavailable. They better not say a darned word about my not getting my lines in this pay period due to no work situations constantly.
And when the US MTs refuse to work for that guess
where the work will go?
I refuse to do tapes but have a possible solution for you.
I have eliminated tapes completely--just not worth the aggravation, gas, time, etc. I only do digital and the docs have two options. One, buy their own recorder and pay a lower line rate or have me supply the recorder and they pay $0.02 more per line. The digital recorders are as easy to use as the tapes recorders.Stress that improved quality of recording will allow you to hear what they're saying more clearly and will result in fewer blanks. Also, they will experience an improved TAT and there will be no more broken tapes. You may find that they are willing to give it a try when you stress the benefits.
Let the next MT refuse him also. Be open bout
I dont consider this cherrypicking. Just straight up refusing to do a doctor who has no regard for me or his pts if he is going to dictate in a manner that is indecipherable. Again, I am in this for the money just like MTSO. I am not here to work for mere pennies an hour. There are plenty of jobs out there. The MTSO can get rid of me over 1 crappy doctor or keep me, knowing I know the platform, etc. If MTSO would rather have 1 crappy doctor or a darn good MT, whatever. Again, it is hard to find a good MT, crappy dictators are a dime a dozen. Let the next MT refuse him or not. It is here decision. Mine is to ask to be taken off so I can make money just like the MTSO.
no and I would refuse to work for that company. nm
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If experirenced MTs refuse to do VR, then the services will not
find enough workers, and perhaps will decide to go back to straight transcription. Hard to make any money off VR. You do not get paid for inputting demographics. Are you typing one space or two spaces between sentences? Some VR programs are set to add only one space, so you are being short-changed there also. No extra for bolding or underlining. No numbering allowed. No tabs allowed. The signature line is not being counted toward your line count. The only way to make money with VR if you have taking a 50% cut in pay is to crank up the speed as fast as possible, let it play, and basically read and not have to fill in too many blanks. Otherwise, you will not make enough money to survive.
When US MTs refuse to edit their garbage
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Actually, I can REFUSE to have a breast exam done on
me by a doctor, and I always did. For me this procedure is much too intimate.
I guess you can refuse and be fired and then
be making no money.
If we all refuse to do VR at low rates, we may see an increase in pay.
Stedman's 4th edition is from 2004 and has...
1044 pages of words, plus appendices of 43 pages. I prefer Stedman's over HPI. 
2nd edition over 600 pages long....sm
your client is out of touch........*lol*
AAMT BOS 2nd edition cost?
Does anyone know how much AAMT charges for a new BOS? I am looking to purchase the 2nd edition AAMT BOS (have the 1st edition) but cannot get on the AAMT website to comparison shop. I have looked at Amazon and Half.com. Any help or suggestion would be much appreciated.
Thank you Cindi, I do have that one, 28th Edition.
Have had it since my very first day MT'ing and wouldn't be without it.
Just the basic preferred edition could never
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waiting for Stedman's 5th edition ---
of Medical & Surgical, but will not release until January of 2008.
I rarely, if ever, use the 2nd Edition. So nope, I have
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About the BOS-2, we are talking about the 2002 edition?
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the online electronic edition is definitely
faster and handier, therefore it is much more expensive.
I refuse to validate the idiot Cruise
or to enrich him with one penny of my hard-earned money. I will not be seeing his movie or any other project in which he is involved. I feel the same way about Johnny Depp since the horrible, hateful statements he has made about America and Americans. They are free to speak their minds, but I am also free to choose not to reward their hatefulness.
Training on secondary accounts. Can you refuse?
I have a great primary account. I realize I need a secondary for slow times but the secondary account blows big time. It is laborious (many fields, special requirements that are tedious, etc.). Can I say, "No, but thanks." I reach my required line count with what I have on the primary account even though I am not working a full eight hours. I have taken on a PT job and just fill in empty space by turning around and typing on the other computer when it gets slow.
Any feedback or advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
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