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The purpose of QA is not to fix your mistakes DEAR..the purpose is to get your quality up so we don&

Posted By: sm on 2005-08-06
In Reply to: I have seen editors/QA people act put-upon because we make mistakes. - MQMT

look at your work. It gets sent directly to the client and we do an occasional audit. If you don't want to deal with editors then listen to what they say and pull your damn score up and you won't have to worry about it all. The comments left are feedback. Why the hell should we just "give you the answer" we need to explain it to you so you do not make the same mistake. Sounds to me like you editor is probably pulling her hair out with you. If you can't cut it, get out of the business!


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    Ah, what's your purpose in this? If it gives you a
    others down (others whom did NOTHING to you, BTW), then I want no part of it. Way to class it up.

    Hope you have a nice life free of bitterness. I wash my hands of such negativity.
    That was my purpose in

    That was my purpose in posting this, the fact that he is bringing attention to it.  I think it is great that he cares about our medical records and I hope he can bring some attention to the importance of how and where and by whom they are done, making the public aware. 


    Uhm, but that is the purpose of BUSINESS...
    ...these companies don't exist just to give us poor MTs jobs. GEEZ.

    Keeping the client happy keeps BUSINESS, sis.

    You don't like it? GET ANOTHER JOB. GEEZ.

    Why in the world would someone do that on purpose? I am 5Ɔ" and an

    E, was a C in 7th grade.   I have a sister who is a AA and one who is B, both older.  They want more, I want less.   Insurance won't pay for reduction.  Of course mine don't like as nice as hers, but I mine aren't man-made either. 


    What's your purpose posting this?
    Why to show off in that way, making others suspect that you are lying?
    Don't wonder if you get nasty replies.
    What's your purpose posting this?
    Why to show off in that way, making others suspect that you are lying?
    Don't wonder if you get nasty replies.
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    Anyway, this book has made a huge impact on my outlook on life already, and I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND it to anyone who is questioning their purpose in life. It is a wonderful book, and if you can't afford to purchase it, you probably get it from the library.


    Find something fulfilling to do - something with a purpose (sm)
    What if you got a job helping those less fortunate than you? Many people were born with mental and physical disabilities and you could use your abilities to help them. Apply for a job at a home for the mentally retarded or for the elderly - do something that makes you feel good in your heart - where you know at the end of the day that you made a difference in someone else's life. That will make you feel wonderful!

    If not something like that, and you just need some variety, work for a temp agency so that you can keep learning one job after another and moving on.

    Right now you are living in oppressed conditions. Anyone would get depressed being alone in the dark day after day. I do believe in depression - anyone who does not is jut unaware. Get yourself out of that apartment! Go for a walk. Make a point to smile at at least 5 people who look unhappy - force yourself to smile. Read up on the internet about how lack of UV rays causes seasonal affective disorder - read about how forcing yourself to do things like smile, cause endorphins to be released in your body and make you feel better. Use your brilliant mind to figure your way out of the maze you are in - you will have to look to new ways of thinking,and new ways of living.
    forgot to mention other purpose was sm
    I had XP home edition on my PC and they needed Professional edition for their platform MedRite, so was using their PC.
    If you click a link by accident or on purpose sm
    that message can open a trojan on your PC that will access your ebay information.  Happened to me once and some yo-yo hijacked my EBay account and ran up $3000.00 worth of charges in about 2 hours. My account got suspended for suspicious activity and I was notified by EBay of the problem.  Lucky for me, they found out who did it and cancelled all the charges. I had to go to the EBay chat with customer service and repair the damage. Took about an hour.  Now I change my password everytime I get a message that's fake and send everything to spoof@ebay.  It really does help.  So, if you do get a note about suspicious activity, then go to Ebay and see if you can log in.  If not, then the email is from them. 
    The sole purpose of AAMT was and is to make..

    money.  With some online schools pushing their credibility to newbies, enough have fallen for "it" that they still rake in plenty.  The original idea was, no doubt, a good one.  Somewhere along the way, the working MT was forgotten.  AAMT in no way represents the best interests of the working MT.  The idea they are pushing now of making CMT credentialing mandatory is a joke and certainly not in the best interest of hundreds of thousands of working American MTs.


    Hey, I'll send anyone a test (for a mere $50 fee), and I will *allow* them to use the prestigious ND after their name if they pass. 


    Oh, what does NS stand for, you ask?  NO DUMMY


    Of course it's a business! Anything that's run for the purpose of earning a profit is a busine

    What galaxy are you on?


    I guess I don't understand the purpose of a time stamp
    being put throughout a document? Can someone explain why this would be needed?
    why would you want both services? if you keep your vonage, it would defeat the purpose of buying th

    NM


    purpose of gallbladder is to squirt bile into digestive system
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    Of course you can, but there is a board for that purpose. Feel free to post on the Comedy Stop.
    /
    Hahah!a! Funny typo: not quality 'scAre', quality 'scOre'. LMAO!...nm
    nm
    I think that depends on the quality. Do you honestly think there is good quality just throwing every
    MT on any account like they are. I also think QA has been told to not waste a lot of time on blanks so I think the hospitals are getting a lot more blanks. I certainly have more when I get in a hospital I dont know and they talk 100 miles an hour.
    I thought quality was a given. Speed and quality are not mutually exclusive. sm

    I maintain 99% accuracy above on my reports.  However, the original question was regarding personal preference, and I have stated mine, and I respect your opinion as well.  :-)    I do think if I was working in an office or hospital setting, the setup you mentioned might be more profitable in the long run.  There are too many interruptions and such when you have other people running in and out, phones ringing, etc. 


    I doubt that anyone but me really cares about the lines per hour it takes for me to do a report.  They just want an accurate report in a timely manner.  I take pride in my work, and would never just slop something out for the sake of the almighty buck.   And, as an added incentive, I work for 2 companies, and one of them has my name on each report.  I don't have a problem with it, but I did think it was a bit unusual at first.


    Oh well ... I must confess that what I'd TRULY like is to be paid lots of money to just sit and play Battle Phlinx on Pogo all day long, but as of yet, no such luck.  


    Most mistakes are not mistakes at all.
    They are merely personal preferences other than those found in the the AAMT BOS which, incidentally, is not an "Official Rule Book of Medical Transcription" as AAMT would like it to be in order to sell more copies.
    Mistakes

    If the majority of us were QA'd every day they would find mistakes on all of us with the quantity  that we type.  We are all human.  But is there someway TAT they can give you everyone else but that one doctor.  I am the other way because I have one doctor that comma's me to death and so I hate to use a comma.   You have been with them for four years for goodness sakes that should be something especially if this is the first complaint against you.   They should bend knowing that since you are now aware of it you will be extra careful.   Talk with them again and explain to them you need more.   Good luck.   No one is perfect. 


    Patti


    There would be less mistakes if
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    mistakes
    I caught my QA person making changes to my work a few months back - not small changes, but life-altering changes where a medical record is concerned. She is no longer with the company - having been let go on Friday after I reported it on Thursday. Have had no problems since. I would speak up. If the company has any integrity - they would want to know what you have found and correct it.
    Mistakes
    Are you noticing any pattern to the types of mistakes you make? Try to notice (if you haven't) and some answers as to how to fix the problem might come from that realization.

    I am fairly new also and understand all your frustration. I get so frustrated with myself for not being able to retain info that I have repeatedly looked up.

    I absolutely cannot imagine how people did this job before there were word expanders! Hats off to them!! :)
    I think the majority of mistakes are
    merely typographical or expander errors.  If MTs weren't paid such rotten line rates on production, maybe they could afford to relisten to and reproof every single report.  However, the people responding to the original post have evidently never made a single mistake in their entire lives.  Ah, yes, condescending, snotty superiority complexes on the rampage.  I'd be interested in seeing the MT profiles on those quoted reports, how many lines per day they produce, how many years of experience, and so forth.  For that matter, we could all sit here and rip on the mistakes we've found on completed reports, but personally, I don't feel better about myself by trashing other people.  My self esteem isn't measured by how stupid I think everyone else is like some people on this board.
    I make mistakes too

    I have almost 9 years' of experience.  I still make mistakes and always will.  There are many things that I still do not know.  I still come across things I have never heard of.  I still get corrections here and there from my QA. 


    However, I think that is a good thing, QA.  I like getting corrections back when I have made an error.  That alerts me to the problem.  That makes me a better MT.  Also, I take some comfort in the fact that something I overlooked may be caught by another.  It is supposed to be team work.  The MT and QA are supposed to work together to produce a perfect report. 


    It is all in how you look at it.  It is very easy to get your feathers in a ruffle when given a correction.  I believe that reaction is soley out of embarrassment over making the mistake in the first place.  That is silly, however, seeing that we all do make mistakes and no one knows everything. 


    Mistakes/errors

    I read below about the mistakes and I have to admit, I make mistakes, I am human.  My accounts know I am human.  I just re-read one of my physicals and I had somehow put "See expensive data base in chart" and it should have been "See extensive ..." it is not often but it does happen.  If we were perfect we surely would not be here on earth right now.  It is hard for us to see and find our own mistakes.   But for those who say that they have 98 or 99% error free, what does that actually mean -- for every 100 words you can have two errors, or what.  Never have been able to figure that out.   If I do 3000 lines per day, can I have 30 to 60  lines with errors?   All I know is that the majority of us do a darn good job and the best we can and those that make continuous errors, just like in any line of work, won't  be in it for long but mistakes and errors do happen to all of us.   For those that have no compassion for anyone that does make errors, be careful as it is a long way to fall off of the pedestal.    My two cents worth go ahead and flame me, I have broad shoulders. 


    PS --my accounts have been with me for 5 to 15 years and I make over $50K a year but I do make mistakes.  


    I'm not defending their mistakes whether
    by intention or accident. That was not in my post whatsoever, so learn to read.

    What I said is true -- and the posts above just proved it. It doesn't matter if they owe you money or not, you're going to gripe about it. There's nothing anyone can do to change the past. They found a discrepancy, no matter how or why, and they are righting it by sending the money that is owed. That is the RIGHT THING TO DO...it is also the LEGAL thing to do.

    You were po'd because you felt cheated on your pay so you griped. Now you're getting that discrepancy paid to you, so you gripe. You gripe because they didn't make changes. Now they are and people are still griping.

    The whole start of my post was directed at the idiot who was complaining over the letter - the letter announcing upcoming changes, whining because it didn't include SEs (in her severely compromised comprehension). I responded to that.

    I didn't say anything about defending their actions other than they are making a wrong right by paying money that is owed. They are legally obligated to do so. And no one is relieved about it regardless.

    I'm saying what many of us feel and that is if you don't like MQ GET OUT. If you aren't leaving, SHUT UP. It's a good thing we work remotely -- the pathetic pitiful peons who can do nothing but drag their hind end around on the ground whining, "look what happened to me" don't seem capable of saying, "Hey, I'm not going to take that. I'm outta here. I don't think you're treating me fair so adios MQ." Instead, they have to just continually lurch around with their bellyaching and griping and try to keep everyone feeling like they do. They LOVE to feel upset. Makes 'em feel justified in some sick way. Justified perhaps because they're not able to do anything else maybe. Who knows why? Who cares? I don't.

    I'm tired of hearing the griping about a situation you're doing nada about. Shut up and do your work -- maybe you'd have some MONEY in the bank then. Otherwise, ship your worthless self out to sea and find new populations of people to cry to.

    As for your "...it is not the people on this board who short-changed their people..." remark...you are WRONG. By continuing with a company that they believe is doing them wrong, they are short-changing themselves and their families -- their kids, their husbands, their relatives, their friends. EVERYONE. You have a responsibility to not be poor, provide for your family ADEQUATELY and BE HAPPY. When you don't take care of that situation at work and feel that way, it bleeds over into your life every other way. I bet you people are a JOY to live with. What a horrible negative environment to live in.

    I usually let this crap on this board roll off my back. It's usually good for a few laughs. I'm not angry but rather tired. Tired of having to wade through the mires of people who have imprisoned themselves. If MQ did you wrong, GET OUT. If any of these companies did you wrong, GET OUT.

    I would be ashamed to sit here and constantly gripe about the same problems over and over and never take action and change it for myself. How handicap is that?

    Lately, coming here is like jumping into what appears to be a nice cool lake to enjoy a good relaxing swim only to get out and find there's hordes of blood-sucking leeches on you. It's really pathetic and it's that way because you won't get over what has happened.

    Well, guess what? IT HAS. Whatever made all the pay issues happen -- IT HAPPENED. You can't change it. It won't go away. GET OVER YOUR SITUATION. GET OVER YOURSELF. You're not the only people in the world with problems.

    Absolutely the biggest group of losers I've seen in a long time. Losers -- Losers every one because you REFUSE, not just fail - which we all do, but REFUSE to get up and get past these problems.

    Get over yourselves. This is a great line of work and there are some great companies. MQ is one of them - for MANY of us. If this work isn't paying you enough to live then guess what?! IT ISN'T FOR YOU unless you like to live hungry!!

    I agree that everyone has a different experience but you know what? You seem all too familiar now with MQ at least and you are still there -- voluntarily. No one makes you stay.

    If you're tired of defending yourself for being so upset about MQ, why don't YOU go start yourself a board somewhere?

    I don't believe this board was designed with MQ-haters in mind, was it? No.

    So, excuse me, but YOURS isn't the ONLY attitude around! I don't care if you like what I'm saying or not! I have just as much reason and rightness in what I am saying as you do.

    Hope you people sleep happy in your little tight little drawn-up world!! I can tell you without any hesitation that I have no problems sleeping and no problems making my bills and no problems going to work because I don't have the attitude you do!

    Good night, little ones! Sleep tight!!
    and you know the mistakes that happen
    !!!
    Speak for yourself. I want and need to know my mistakes.
    I'm sure there are those who get offended but not all are that way.


    The mistakes were trivial
    They did not tell you the rules and you did it correctly. They should have told you that you were to change it. I just hired on with a hospital system who really appreciates good MTs and you can find someone who will, too. Hang in there!
    we make mistakes
    but what makes us better human beings is that we try to stand up and do better. Forgive yourself for that mistake and be thankful for a good husband and move on. Be praying for you!
    she acknowledged her mistakes
    -- no doubt she got high on herself -- there are very few that handle their fame and fortune well from the beginning. I still say she definitely has more honesty and decency than the rest of them.
    mistakes in other's work

    If your job is not QA, you have no reason to be looking at someone else's work. Someone should be supplying you w/ the appropriate, properly de-identified samples.Viewing a report typed by another person is a potential HIPAA violation.  Don't mean to preach, but that's the way it is....



    clarifying this - okay, the mistakes that come through
    are not grammar or nitpicky mistakes, but these are mistakes with lab values, especially ones that were clearly dictated. These are mistakes with drugs and dosages (THIS SEEMS TO BE THE OUTSOURCE COMPANIES BIGGEST PROBLEM). There are TONS of times that reports come back with extra sentences and things typed in the reports that were NEVER said.

    I could even go on to say certain types of mistakes, but then I think the company would know who they are and I would get in trouble.

    All I'm saying is, supposedly this company "tests" transcriptionists, which obviously they do not. The QA department of the company just doesn't give a crap and gets paid for doing literally nothing (I want that job for this company when I quit the hospital) and the so called "supervisor" of the outsource company wants a copy of all mistakes, but never does a darn thing about it. So basically she must have a stack of reports that go as high as her ceiling that she has probably used for toilet paper, because she sure as crap isn't doing anything else about them.

    So this is not about grammar or certification or piddly little things, but major mistakes and tons of blanks on a hospital account that has but only a few ESLs and some really easy dictation. This is about an outsource company that is quite well known that gets paid for crap.

    wow! I feel better again.
    I sometimes make mistakes
    On this board I am sometimes going so fast to get my message done and have come to rely on spellcheck so much that I find myself making mistakes.  But I must admit never have I in a resume.  And I also admit that sometimes my docs catch a mistake or two and perhaps three per month but with typing 2000 to 3500 lines per day and me being QA and MT, it happens.    We are only human and it is hard to proof your own work.  But on a resume I would have someone else check it.  On this board though I try not to worry as much.    I just don't think people take as much pride in their work and whether this came around when cpl was started, I don't know.   
    mistakes all the time, tsk tsk tsk...(NM
    x
    Mistakes happen. Yes, there are some. Just
    nm
    everybody makes mistakes
    One time, during my newbie days, I typed "slap reconstruction" instead of "flap reconstruction." Hee-hee! It's funny now, but it sure wasn't funny at the time!

    I've typed the wrong doctor's name, too. They will surely understand; if not, well, nobody's perfect.

    Stoopid mistakes
    Oh, I've done far worse, and I am too ashamed to admit what that is here, but I agree with the other replies when they've told you not to sweat it. You are only human after all. Humans make mistakes. It's just how it is. The fact that you owned up to it, recognized it and feel bad about it proves to me that you're a good MT. No need to beat yourself up over this. This too shall pass.
    carless mistakes
    Only after she brought it to your attention just like you did hers.  Man people are such children about stuff.  When humans are perfect no one will make mistakes anymore so get off it.  Do you really think it makes you a better person, MT?  It just makes you a **tch
    Are you making mistakes? If it is something

    like punctuation I wouldn't worry too much, just try to do whatever they say.  If you are making big mistakes like spelling terms incorrectly, using Google to research and just because there are severl hits you decide the word/term/spelling is correct and so with it, although there is a ton of misinformation on google.  Did you spell a drug wrong, a doctor's name wrong, just did guess at a word rather than leaving a blank, etc.


    I think the majority of QA is helpful.  Some get off on a power trip, but most really want to be helpful and help you be the best you can be. 


    I recently made a job change and I felt like I would never get a report back from QA that there wasn't something wrong with it.  It wasn't so much an error as it was that the account was extremely particular.  I would fix one error, only the next day they would find something else.  I have 20+ years of experience.


    Try not to take it personally, look at it as they are helping you to be a better MT.   If you continue to make the same mistakes get you some brightly colored sticky notes and write yourself notes and put them where you'll see them as you work.   Even though you probably want to get a high line count you need to concentrate on quality first.  Take the time to proof thoroughly. 


     


    How do you handle your mistakes?

    I am an IC and for the past 5 years have worked for the same doc.  He still uses tapes so I deliver on a daily basis.  I already load the work on his PC and make sure the pages line up etc. and do not get paid extra.  I also convert some reports from WP to Word and e-mail to him at no extra charge.  Now he starts calling me after I leave the clinic and expect me to either turn-around and come fix the mistakes/changes (15 minutes later) or I must wait in his office until he is finished with a patient consult, can go through the work to check for mistakes/changes for me.  The mistakes range from doctor's names misspelled (workmen's comp with lots of different doc names, impossible to search and find as no clue where the doc is located) or template changes etc. and sometimes silly mistakes which is totally my mistake.  Am I fair in stating that I do not mind doing the corrections when I return the next day but that I cannot wait around in his office for him as he does not pay me for that and I will also not turn around after I have left the office to go back when they call me? How do all of you handle this type of situation? 


     


    I see really bad mistakes all the time
    here on this site. I probably would not say that ESLs could do better but I do not think it could be worse either if trained properly.
    Very true, but the stupid mistakes get old after you tell them
    over and over and over and over again. They just blow you off. What makes me so mad is they DO NOT read over their work and if they did, half the mistakes would be caught. The sentences that make no sense...for example. He has pain with driving the walking on concrete that lessens on lass. That sentence should have been...He has pain with driving and walking on concrete. It lessens when walking on grass. (THAT IS WHAT THE DOC SAID).
    it is still being entered by people, and there will still be mistakes (NM)
    xx
    They are calling me on all sorts of mistakes
    formating, headings (they say things like "use your best judgement" and then say you did it wrong), abbreviations, for some rules they follow AAMT and some they dont. I feel like I will never get it right.
    Article on Medical Mistakes (sm)

    Very interesting article in the New York Times today. When you compare what this reporter has to say about doctors' survival statistics and compare it to medical transcriptionists, this is what one can discern:


    1.  Doctors are fatally wrong 20% of the time (we are allowed 2% errors).


    2.  Medicare and other insurance carriers are looking for ways to provide "incentives" for doctors to get it right (sounds like a QA bonus if I ever heard of one).


    3.  Doctors have available to them a program called "Isabel," where they can punch in symptoms and get a diagnosis. (More machines replacing more people.)


    My conclusion? Maybe it doesn't matter what level you perceive yourself to be at in the heirarchy of medicine, there exists a group of people trying to replace you with a machine that they believe does a better job than a human.


    What are your thoughts?


    I make mistakes too (who doesn't?) but (sm)
    some of the more obvious errors, like the difference in "their, they're, there", definitely spelled definately, accomodate, things like that are what I mean; they are not typos, but errors.  If someone told me I was spelling "definitely" wrong, you'd better believe I would put it in my Expander or SOMETHING.  I still say a lot of people just don't care and don't like being told anything.
    Ditto on below, mistakes happen -sm
    I had several errors at a previous job, sometimes short, sometimes too much. I would always let them know and they would make the necessary adjustment in my next paycheck (unlike Missy I had to wait 2 weeks for my discrepancy). It happened about 3 x, but is was always just an accounting error. Since you did get paid, at least I am infering that from your post, I would suspect it was just an oversite on their part. Email or call them, be nice about it though, and I am sure you will have it fixed relatively quickly. Good luck.