The illegals also can work at these low wages because
Posted By: anon on 2007-06-30
In Reply to: i can't blame you in your situation, but if you look at the total picture sm - LMT
they live 5 or 6 families to a house. Every time you hire illegals (and if a job is bid at half what an American can do it, they ARE illegal) you are contributing to the destruction of America. Have you ever read any reports of what its like to live in a neighborhood with illegals? It rapidly declines into garbage and filth. This is the only way these people know to live. They do not care to assimilate into our society. They would rather we degrade down to their level. Enjoy that money you save. May you also enjoy a few of these families coming to YOUR neighborhood.
Oh, and don't think they just live in low income areas any more. Nah, they are spreading into the McMansion neighborhoods. 7 or 8 families per house can afford to live there, and Bank of American is oh so happy to loan them the money. Ain't American great?
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Then DON'T work for "newbie" wages
If you were better, you'd be making more. Bottom line.
Slow people do not make money.
Bad attitude people get less work/jobs.
Good MTSOs do not hire poor MTs.
Why are you griping. It's your own doing. Life is what you make of it. If you deserved more, you'd be making more.
Type faster, make more.
Start your own business, make more.
Qualify for a good MTSO, make more.
If you're not earning it, the reason lies with YOU.
Wow! This must be the only line of work where the wages
Can you afford to work for India wages (sm)
Don't even listen to people trying to sell you a class, study for something with a future.
I did formal training and MT was pretty good for a while, but now I wouldn't recommend this career to my worst enemy!
Will all the big nationals running us out of work and lower our wages what suggestion does anyone
have. This situation is getting extremely serious for people that need to make a living. What a shame.
Lets try this again. With all the big nationals running us out or work and lowering our wages what
do you suggest.
can you stand on your feet all day, be abused by better than thou customers, work for slave wages?
Illegals
You must live up north somewhere-- they are always climbing over the fences, running across the desert, etc., and you can see where they've been by the trail of dirty diapers, trash, cut water lines, using cattle watering holes for bathing, etc. I live in Arizona, too, and whenever there is any crime here, shootings, child kidnappings, etc., the first place they head is back across the border. Our car insurance rates are ridiculously high because they pick out a model they want to steal and across the border it goes-- especially if you have a 4 X 4, SUV, etc. The Mexican police use them for their patrol vehicles. I also worked for a local hospital and when they get sick, they flood the ERs with no insurance, of course, and the ERs are obligated to treat them. Everybody else has to sit for hours because they can't get in. Then of course, the "bleeding hearts" sign them all up for AHCCCS, which is the state welfare for health care, and they get everything for free-- while we have to pay higher health care costs to cover it. I could go on and on. I am not against people coming here LEGALLY, but the word here is LEGAL. I don't care if they are from India, China, Mexico, or where-- the word here is LEGAL. This country is just like Rome being overrun by all the barbarians, and we all know what happened to Rome. The same thing is going to happen here-- just wait.
illegals
Ok if I must I will go in to detail here for you, Jay. And anyone else who must know. I only know about 3 LEGAL folks that are Mexican immigrants. BUT I have met MANY illegals and I will tell you why. I live in Southern Mississippi. As I am sure you know Hurricane Katrina hit this area dead center. It was indescribable. Well A LOT of illegals saw an opportunity to work and they came to this area. Well my father does disaster cleanup. He had a lot of equipment and crews who did cleanup for the state. Well he did even though it is wrong hire many illegals to work for him. I know other people too who did the cleanup who also had a whole bunch of them living on their property also and I mean a lot of them. I have met many, many illegals during that time. Not just ones who worked for my dad but others. My dad has now realized he made a mistake letting them work which is a whole other subject. He knows it is better to leave them alone let them find work elsewhere. But he learned the hard way you can't help them. I have also. But that is how I have come to say it is from exp. Experience with many of them. They seem so humble and pitiful at first. But they aren't what they seem. Most anyway. They begin to expect more and more money. They will steal you blind. The many I have met yes. Dad lost every piece of tools that weren't too large for them to fit in a vehicle. He has a 500 sq. ft. metal building that was stock full of every kind of tool and equipment you can think of he had gotten over the years. EVERY tool down to his screwdrivers were stolen little by little and no one but these illegals working had access to these tools and other things. He is having to start all over buying these things. Do you see now why I feel this way. I have known so many. I am not someone who runs their mouth without knowing what I am talking about. Oh and when I say they don't have good hygiene these people would work all day in the hot sun and you can imagine how bad they would smell and come home and have access to showers and many wouldn't take them. THAT is disgusting. I'm sorry. So yes Mr. Jay I have known quite a few illegals. How many do have YOU know?
Illegals
They don't care who they live down the road from --- they have more rights than the cop does.
I called a local hospital and was told that all illegal immigrants have FREE unlimited medical care, covered under a government program called Trailblazer. The hospital representative told me that they are not allowed to turn anyone away, so the government set up this program to partially compensate the hospital for the care of these illegal freaks. The rest of their care is passed along to private pay patients and insurances companies. The insurance companies then raise their rates to cover their losses, and fewer Americans can afford insurance. God Bless the USA --- at least if you are a foreigner. In my area, it is Arabs. They (even the illegals) free education, free medical care, free social social services, food stamps, free legal services, free housing, etc., etc., etc. Of course, we are all paying for these "free" services with our tax dollars.
I agree on the illegals but .....
they're not the only ones sucking our system dry. I live in a state where 10% of the working class pay for 90% of those freebies on the government payroll.
My mother raised two children on her own. She had a high school education, worked her butt off for everything she had, sometimes working two jobs. She NEVER asked the welfare dept for a dime. If we didn't have the money, we didn't buy it.
But no, I see those beautiful cars sitting in front of the projects. Thought they couldn't have all these expensive things and still get all the freebies. My brother and I didn't get free healthcare, free dental care, free vision care. No one came out to make sure our home was UP TO SNUFF.
Heck, we got million dollar NEW homes going up in our town, single family homes. Tearing down the OLD single dwelling homes and putting up new homes, all for the taking of those who have some reason they can't do anything for themselves, while my mom watches this all happening, knowing she didn't get the freebies and the help. She doesn't say much but BOY AM I PISSED OFF!!!!
My husband and I work for everything we have. Our kids have better than we did, some would call them spoiled I'm sure.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping any in real need, that's why God put us here.
But you know the old saying, give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish he'll eat for a lifetime. Of course, I've seen many who don't want to learn how to fish either, they just want it at their doorstep.
I will state also that the illegals I know ARE..sm
They are paying taxes so they don't get caught....albeit some of their papers in order to pay taxes are fake. They also work 2-3 jobs per person and are contributing greatly to the economic success of this country and are slowly but surely TRYING to get legal.
And you can take that to the bank!
illegals and jobs
My 2 cents. They should throw the book at anyone hiring illegals in the first place. Fine any business tremendously!
If they allow these illegals to work as citizens, they are not going to work for peanuts anymore! They will want as much as everyone else makes! There go all those jobs that we need!
Yes, America was made by immigrants but this is too many people! Why can't they allow so many people from each country?
One last thing, there are many corrupt border control guys on OUR side of the fence receiving money for allowing illegals to cross. That is the truth!
Your reasoning does not make illegals ok, still
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This, in my opinion, ranks right up there with the illegals using....
your Soc Security number to work under. It's an illegal act, no matter which way you look at it. And, when "they" are tested on the phone for an interview, how is that going to fly? This whole reeks of illegality and purely a *wrong* thing to do.
I'm with you on the illegals, but paying taxes is not an insurance policy.
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Puhleez, what exactly is the government doing about illegals crossing the border?
Absolutely nothing. NOTHING! The government sanctions sending American jobs oversees, puting thousands of American workers on unemployment! So why should I or anyone else feel guilty about trying to get what we rightfully deserve?
As far as testing on the phone goes, doxie, you can be listening on an extension and write the answers down for your husband. Don't feel guilty. You're going to pay your taxes.
oh our lovely government does give illegals medicaid, foodstamps, and housing so in term we give tha
i have been through some rough times lately and had to apply for some help. there are signs, big signs, all over our offices saying "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE LEGAL TO GET HELP". so we and our government do give them our benefits whether they are legal here or not. now that is messed up. i am helping to support them so they can take away my jobs and i can't even support my kids and yes i get benefits, wow $75 a month in food stamps which lasts not even a week in a household of 6. don't get me wrong, i am thankful for any help at the moment, but i get penalized for trying to work my tail off and still can't survive.
there was recently an article in our local newspaper where one of our local school districts tried to charge $1000 a year for each illegal student enrolled. it was bulked and the illegals got a lawyer to sue for discrimination. the school district merely stated that they had to HIRE extra teachers that could speak the foreign language just to teach these children and were trying to offset some of the expenses. ridicilous!! so again our taxpayers money is paying to educate illegals as well.
$25/hr. = Low Wages?
I think at $25 per hr. I'm making a bit more than the manager of the French Fry Department at Mickey D's...
QA wages
Anyone out there have an idea of what a QA person should be paid per hour if working at home?
wages
If you keep abreast with current events/news pertaining to the economy you will find that ours is not the only profession whose wages have not increased from levels in the 1990s. It is a lot of people as well who have to leave their homes to go to work for maybe the same that we make every day.
wages
I am not putting you down but if you have been in this business for 20 years and have been reading this board --give me a break you should be able to project what you will be earning especially if you have had your own accounts. Especially if you have seen your wages go up and down, cannot believe you are asking this if -- like I said -- you have been in this business 20 years.
Wages
I don't know about anyone else but I make the same amount of money if not more doing VR than I used to doing transcription, at least when there's work. Lately the middle to end of the week I have nothing to do! I personally am only doing this while I finished my bachelor's that I needed to apply to grad school which I start this fall when I'll quit. I don't think that VR will ever replace MTs entirely because it just is too important to have perfect medical records and VR just isn't perfect especially since doctors do dumb things like talk to other people, correct themselves, mumble, etc.
wages
Just know from my experiences in the last 25 years that doctors are notoriously CHEAP... Do the best you can and if you can't get as much or more money than you are making now, I'd stay where you are. Just my humble opinion. Been there, done that many times.
wages
Wages also depend on where you are located. In house jobs and small independents are going to pay less in rural and struggling areas because they can. In rural areas jobs also depend on who you know. They would rather pay a untrained local rather than a trained outsider. Speaking from the voice of experience.
the wages were no more than they sm
are now when I started, the books were just as expensive. you buy one at a time and build from there. A good reference library is a MUST in this business. If you can get by with the internet search I guess that's ok, but I see people who are not searching at all.
I think 90% of the questions would be answered if folks would invest at least in a Medical Phrase Index. Sorry but its part of the job.
wages
What no one says is that MT wages are considerably lower in rural areas and small cities. Do not be specific but it would help if geographic locations, were mentioned by posters if making more.
Biller wages
Can someone give me a ballpark figure of how much a biller would get that has no experience? I've been offered a possible job, and I got a feeling they are going to ask me how much I expect to make.
I don't think cutting wages is against the law.
Not paying overtime for employees, inappropriate classification of statutory employees, etc., those items fall under DOL.
If cutting wages was a crime, then the airlines, factories, hospitals, virtually all businesses would be under "investigation" and in grave trouble.
What are you trying to accomplish with your post? Just put information out there about a company you won't name? Wanting advice? Truly, I don't understand what you are wanting in reply.
radiology wages
If you are thinking of working for a large teaching hospital where they have 10 page Neurointerventional reports, large MRIs and CTs , etc, you will surely find yourself regreting working for per page. I currently make $200+ per day doing radiology. Today I did 112 reports and tho I won't see my exact lines until tomorrow I know I am over the $200 mark. You do the math. Last month I pulled in $4000.
here's an even better link to see ALL about wages in USA
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/wages/minimumwage.htm
Slave Wages
I dont know who you work for but I make about $25-30 per hour. I work two jobs and 10-12 hours a day and on weekends and I make between $6000 and $7000 per month. I know that is excessive for hours but I am trying to pay off my house, car, etc and I am spoiling my 3 kids rotten!!
I type radiology, which I believe is the easiest and fastest to learn and type.
yearly wages
Last year had small MTSO two part-time IC's working for me, worked as employee parttime in clinic. Worked 50 hours per week. Made -- myself not counting what my IC's brought in -- $62 K. Starting June 1st, quit the employee position -- divorce attorney fees paid off, no IC's and keeping my 4 accounts, will work 25 to 28 hours per week and make approximately 40K from these four accounts per year. If I get stuck and need more will do overflow for another MTSO. But too many headaches and time to take some time for myself. Looking forward to it.
Patti
Cannot bellieve wages.
Many companies now only want to pay 6.5 to 8 CPL. This is even for seasoned MTs. Even ICs are not offered much more compensation. I have friends working at WalMart making more than some MTs. If you type 200 LPH at 7 cpl that is $14.00 an hour, but the health insurance is very expensive at these companies. You must have over 98% on QA scores, but they don't want to pay more for quality and experience. Plus many jobs are IC and you have higher taxes. I feel that wages have been falling steadily in the past years and continue to fall. No wonder there is a shortage of experienced MTs (so I hear). More likely it is a shortage of experienced MTs that want to work for such low wages and no raises in the future.
falling wages...
Unfortuntely, it is true, falling wages for MTs and experience plays not part in it. But, there is a reason for it....as we all are aware, hospitals have chosen to cut their debt by outsourcing medical transcription to India for 1/4 the cost it would be to pay us here in the states. Let's face it...MT jobs here in the states will soon be absolete, and thinking about the wages ever getting better, forget. My advise is for all MTs to seek another source of income before it is too late....i.e. perhaps going back to school or seeking one of the higher paying jobs or at least equal to medical transcription such as Walmarts, Meijers, restaurants, etc...and eh...even get medical benefits, vacation time, etc....I currently receive none of that from my employer and was also told to take a pay decrease as of this 12/02...along with everyone else, so was paying us 10 cents per line, but little trick to that, lines are 70 characters per line with spaces included....everyone does 65 characters with spaces...now from 10 cents to 9 cents and 70 characters per line...hmmmm, I figure I am making 8 cents a line now. Yes indeed, I am out of transcription after 25 years coming this income tax refund check. Transcription has become a degrading job!
quality vs wages
While I do agree that there is a vast majority of MTs who are of extremely poor quality, there also are very high-quality, well-seasoned MTs like myself who are tired of making the same wages we made 10-15 years ago. If there is such a discrepancy in our work quality and ethics, these corporations (who, by the way, are not slacking at all in their 6-figure income pockets!!!!) should pay MTs based on quality and experience, not just experience alone.
IS ANYONE OUT THERE BESIDES ME INTERESTED IN FORMING A NATIONAL MT UNION SO WE CAN GET BACK THE DIGNITY WE HAVE LOST?
I remain,
tired
quality vs wages
YOU'VE JUST VALIDATED MY INITIAL COMMENT....
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE NEED A UNION!!!!!
I keep hearing about low wages
Even 8 cpl at 200 LPH is 16 dollars an hour, which is not a bad wage, and that is what many of the large services pay, plus you get benefits and get to stay home. No high gas prices (3 dollars a gallon or more in places).
I don't do that much of it but my wages have pushed me
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Those wages posted below seem
Why all the complaining about low wages? And we have the option of saving gas, etc., working at home. I don't get it. If so many are making even over 30 or 35, and up to 60 thousand, what is the problem? I would love to make 40 thousand a year. I would be totally comfortable on that, but don't make that. But it is my own fault, I let other things interfere with my work (especially family). I am so busy taking care of my family, it cuts into my production.
hospital wages
I'm testing at a local midwest hospital. Does anyone know what fair wages are for a newbie at a hospital.
For anyone that is an IC can you tell me why your wages earned are not the same as what your are cr
my accountant explained this but I cant remember the reason we dont get the full amount of credit and can you tell me what percentage we dont get credit for.
But for the same wages/benefits?
I've never seen anyone end up making more when they transfer from a hospital to a service. Its just part of the general downslope of wages, technology and globalization. Always keep Plan B.
Wages in general
In looking over *** jobs, under the pay/compensation it seems everyone is putting "competive wage/compension". Can anyone give me some idea of what that means....I am currently getting 8.5-10 cents for IC work. I have 10+ years and made it at Healthscribe for 5+ years, which was definitely the worst work ever. Can I do better? I had my CMT and let it expire years ago.
Wal Mart wages
I worked there at a little more than minimum wage but most unskilled businesses pay only minimum wage. The scheduling is bad but no worse than any other shift work. Also unless you have worked there you have no right to put down Wal Mart.
Yes, that's true regarding wages...
being stagnate, but I tend to disagree that the 'average' cost is between 11-13 cpl (I think that's what was quoted). I believe it is quite a bit higher than that, more in the range of 15-18 cpl or even higher. At any rate, I cannot see how wages can go any lower than they are now. I really enjoyed Julie's recent blog post regarding the curriculum forum (I'm sure you had a chance to read that). I think she was right on regarding the future of MT.
with cost of living going up and MT wages
How much do you think you would need to make a good living. Meaning enough to cover all bills, enough to put some away for a rainy day, and enough to play, like dinners, hobbies, maybe a weekend getaway twice a year. Be realistic. I'm thinking for me, since i'm single, 50k a year.
Second question. If you hadnt gotten trapped in MT, what profession do you see yourself in maybe even earning way more than you can imagine, doing what you love? For me, it would be psychotherapist.
anyone??? ANYONE ???
Rural America wages
Last year interviewed for two transcription jobs. Neurology office $13.50, hospital $16.00. (the most I have ever been offered) I was offered the neurology position, but declined and the hospital job was given to someone with less experience, i.e. less $$$, they were hoping to add an addition MT on, but did not. I have over 15 years multispeciality office transcription experience including running my own business for 10+ years. I basically learned on the job, sort of fell into transcribing 20 years ago. I am also a Certified Medical Assistant (silly me, actually went to school for that), I have worked in physicians office over the past 20 years part-time doing medical assisting and transcribing and worked my way up to $11.50/hr. Unfortunately in the office MAs are being replaced by regular high-school graduates, $7.00 per hour, etc, and of course they can do transcription too.. ha ha. Since I live in a rural area the opportunities are limited and each position would require a lengthy commute and with high gas prices that is just crazy, so I decided to go employee with national. Since I get paid by production I can make more $$$ that way overall but the cpl rate is not nearly what it should be, you just keep working harder for the $$$. I would not recommend anyone get into this field by choice as technology will eventually whittle us away to almost nothing. If you want medical, go for the top.. doctor, RN, nurse practitioner, PA, etc. Decent wage and some respect, too.
If you think you are working for slave wages now...
Medical transcription is not your field. We work for slave wages and have to compete with offshore transcriptionists who work for next to nothing.
You will need to have an extensive medical knowledge, be willing to constantly purchase new equipment and reference books, and for all of that you get paid worse than a Wal-Mart greeter. Wages consistently have been going down, not up.
If you have a bachelor's degree, I would look into other fields if I were you.
The only way I would recommend this field to someone is if they are handicapped or have an ill child or something that forces them to work from home. Aside from that, I wouldn't recommend it.
But you see, that's the problem. The lower wages go in the US, (sm)
the less any of us want to pay for things. But when you're on a limited budget and can't buy things any old time you want, one way to save money is to buy QUALITY. Then it LASTS. I may buy a couple cheap T-shirts at Ross that were made in Bangladesh, but I know they're expendable. I'll end up shrinking them the first time I wash them, and then use them as dust rags. But if I'm buying a coat, or a dress, or a CAR, then I go for quality. Even if it means waiting longer to get it, because then it will last, ultimately saving money in the long run. If I have to pay more for things (like gas, groceries, rent, etc.), then I demand a higher wage. If I don't get it, I look for an employer that will pay it. Too many people in this country (and especially offshore!)"settle" for the crappy wage just to get their foot in the door. Sometimes it's just better to go look for a different door.
Another example of the poor wages and long
hours MTing is a waste of time.
they will continue to offer low wages because there is always SOMEONE who will take it!
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