The MTSO should be compensating you if you're teaching people!
Posted By: tnmt on 2007-03-01
In Reply to: Opinion -- Do your own durn research! - California Dreamin'...
And if they won't, then I'd politely refer their questions to the MTSO. And the email request is perfectly reasonable, IMO.
It's been my experience as a lead MT and trainer over the years that some people just would rather have somebody give them fish rather than learn to do it themselves. When I got that "vibe" from somebody I promptly handed them their fishing pole and bait and refused to give them any more fish, if you know what I mean!
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Whatever they're teaching them
So far as I know the term "basic four" didn't come along until the advent of MTSOs. I think it is far more important that students learn how to actually DO history/physicals, ops, discharge summaries and consults than to know that they are sometimes called "basic four" or they might be labeled as "acute care" which is the same thing. I have personally never been asked if I could do "basic four" or "acute care" in an interview. They have always asked me what experience I have. My standard answer, "send it to me and I can do it," whereupon I expound as appropriate regarding my experience and answer questions as asked. Again, I have never been asked anything about "basic four."
You're probably right. Plus we're losing our percentage of good people by .... (sm)
allowing every loser from every 3rd world country on the planet to just stroll on into our country, some legally, most illegally, and take advantage of the social services all us hard working little gerbils pay for by having money taken out of our pay every month. But I don't think we're all lazy. Just the ones on permanent welfare driving around town in brand-new Cadillac Escalades. Saw one just today on the Bayshore Fwy. Brand-new black Escalade with expensive spinner wheels, with 5 or 6 Mexicans in it. Well, who knows - maybe they stole it and it was on its way to a chop-shop. Smart-and-hungry people aren't always hard-working and honest.
you're right Patti, everbody wants to be the MTSO...
but they don't even take the first step of advertising, cold calls, whatever. For all the time I put in hitting the streets, making flyers, following up on leads - while all the time I could have been on the keyboard making $30-40/hr myself - I think I'm finally getting back pay!
Yes, MTSO, we're all happy. When did MTSOs
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Puhleez! I happen to know of two MAJOR MTSO's who charge 0.45 cpl and only pay their people 0.08
to 0.09 cpl! And both of the two companies I speak of also offshore. So let's do the math, they charge the client 0.45 cpl, they pay the India MTs 0.02 cpl. Either way you add it up, they are making big money off our sweat or by exploiting third world workers!
Boo Hoo for the MTSO's and their overhead and their time and headaches. And what friggin overhead do they have, really? They have an office staff of about 10 people at the very most! They employ mostly IC's, don't have to worry about paying for benefits and the one's that do have actually employees, the benefit packages are a joke.
I will say one thing, if I EVER lose my mind and decide to take a job with another MTSO, I will turn over every rock I can find before I accept a position. They want to do a background check on me?!?!! Well, I'm gonna do one on them.
I harbor just a little ill-will towards some MTSO's. If they're not offshoring the work, they're screwing us "worker bees." It is a racket and it's best to get your own accounts or eliminate the middle man and work for the hospital. I do both. The hospital pays me hourly and gives me great benefits for me and my kids. My accounts are for making my fun money!
looking for people that used to work for small MTSO in Suffield, OH a few years back.
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We're having people over.
Spicy hot chicken legs, cream cheese and bacon stuffed jalapenos, zucchini, steamed green beans, hamburgers, hot dogs, corn on the cob, potato salad, and watermelon. Gotta get to the store soon here, but I have to finish working first.
You're so right! People keep saying they - sm
love their MT jobs, but very few seem to be willing to stand up and fight for them. Just continuing to type blindly along and accept the ever-lower pay-crumbs that are being thrown at it is NOT standing up for our jobs.
Questioning the legality (or at least morality) of many of these most recent changes; educating ourselves as to what is going on in the business world as a whole in addition to MT; and becoming more active (and PARTICULARLY more VOCAL) politically and with our own companies is one way to stand up and start fighting for our jobs. I believe we have the right NOT to have to move to another country in order to continue to eke out a living.
The internet is another powerful tool, as are discussion boards such as those here at MT Stars. We should keep on questioning those higher-ups that are bringing about changes that benefit the wealthy big-business people, and which are dragging all the rest of us hard-working employees through the dirt.
Time and again the doctors & the MTSO's tell us how important the accuracy of our work is, how important our experience is, and want nothing but our very best efforts day in and day out, including holidays & weekends, and yet when it comes to providing the merest of essentials, such as a modest health insurance plan, and pay that is appropriate for the degree of knowledge they scrutinize us so diligently for in their employment tests, they suddenly cry poor. Oh, wow - I feel so sorry for them. Start the violins.
you're right, the zoning people got me....sm
Someone where I live busted some people for working at home just recently, as place went condo, and the zoning people got me in February. (Years ago, as long as you had no traffic, you never had to get an occupational license working on a computer and I have zero traffic.) They came here twice, I showed them only the national's room (and for years on my taxes, CPA said only like $2600 out of a $15,000 annual rental fee WAS deductible along with a portion of the electric bill and ALL of my phones). Tomorrow, along with going to the CPA for tax prep, I also am picking up my occupational license ($200!!!!!) and you have to renew that yearly ($135!!!!!).
Sorry to yell but IS ANY OF THAT DEDUCTIBLE? The licensuring fees? I also have to take the OL and bring it to the County and get a County license (not nearly as expensive but also renewable yearly). I sure hope these fees are deductible for 2006 taxes in 2007.
Ok, they got me - and payback is a real *itch...*lol*
What response do you get when you tell people you're an MT?
 I've been doing MT for a long time - 31 years this summer. "Back in the day", when somewhat you met asked you what you did for a living, the reaction was usually:
a) "What's a medical transcriber?"
b) "Wow - it must've taken you a long time to learn all that!"
c) or "Gee, that must be a really interesting job!
At least they PRETENDED to be impressed, anyway.
But have you told anyone lately what you do for a living? The reactions I get nowadays usually run the gamut from contempt to pity.
You're at a party, you've just met 3 new people, and each one tells what they do for a living:
"I'm a stockbroker." (People are impressed.)
"I'm an English Lit. professor." (Ditto)
"I'm currently between jobs." (People assume they're just waiting for the right offer.)
Then it's YOUR turn: "I'm medical transcriptionist." (First, dead silence.) Then someone nods their head knowingly and gives a rather condescending, "Oohhhhh...." You might just as well have told them you were dying of cancer or something. 
this is too funny when you're probably talking to people
who have a lot more weight to lose than you must have and will probably NEVER see the size 8 that you started at. only a dream for me, that's for sure!
Nothing at all, glad you're NOT complaining which what most people come here to do.
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Also, don't you think alot of the 'big bux' people say they're
I could get on these boards and tell folks I'm clearing $150K a year after taxes, own 3 homes, and a 70-foot yacht, and who's gonna come check to see if I'm feeding them a line? So that's what I think alot of that '$50-grand a year' is... just a lot of wishful thinking.
As long as you're correcting people, think about "English."
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I guess they're hoping enoug people will quit
that it won't be a problem anymore!! Sigh.
You're rude. That being said... Some people just work alone for a couple doctors and don't
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Never had this happen either. Email the SH people. They're very prompt with help. Good
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Oh, I forgot. You're only allowed to hate and resent white people.
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if you live among trashy people, low income people, people w/o goals or direction,
content to just get by, you by default become a part of a group. "people" have decided to group trailer people as trash. that is because there are enough people in that group to earn the title and even if you aren't trash, you are categorized by others. did i think i was trash in lower class neighborhood surrounded by people who drank and fought all weekend? no but i knew i wasn't staying and did not try to pretend that all the fools in the neighborhood were just nice folks who ended up where they were because high horse snobs deemed their neighborhood low class. people for the most part live exactly where they belong because they don't want to educate themselves, they don't mind "trash" around them and they don't want to be bothered trying just a bit hard to extract themselves from that world. they justify everything to themselves i guess saying everyone who doesn't like their lifestyle is a snob and the comedians (Jeff Foxworthy/Chris Rock, etc) who make fun of them are just ill-informed.
As for me, I fought hard to get out and don't even want to look back. It amazes me people stay for generations.
Thats why im getting into the teaching GIG
I FEEL YOUR PAIN.......
I am not currently teaching.
Perhaps I will teach again someday, but as I stated, I am now at home with my children and would like to do something at home. The grass is always greener on the other side. Teaching can be great, but it can also be horribly exhausting and emotionally draining. Also, the schedule is inflexible to the extreme, and I am just not ready to jump back into that right now.
I appreciate any advice about how to get back into transcription, as that is what I have decided to do.
RE: Teaching Hospital
I am the transcription supervisor at a teaching hospital and the residents are so long, especially family practice docs. They can go on and on and they are foreign, all of them. This makes it especially hard, but that is all we get. The Americans are going into specialty services such as Surgery, GYN, etc..
Teaching hospital
I'm on a teaching hospital account it is THE most interesting, challenging work I have ever had. Maybe ask if you can be on a different account?
I'd say stick with teaching.
This is not an industry I'd recommend anyone to enter anew for so many reasons:
1. Inconsistent pay and work available.
2. No respect from employers who lie to us and treat us like second class citizens. Slavery went out in the Lincoln administration, people.
3. No respect from people whom I tell what I do for a living.
4. No future in this job. Voice recognition and outsourcing are putting it in the same category of obsolete occupations as the blacksmith.
Be glad you have a career to fall back on in case the MT one doesn't pan out, but I sure wouldn't put any money into learning how to do something that's going to cease to exist in the next decade.
Former MTs Teaching English
I heard that too. its in the newpaper last week, they will be looking for teacher. Man, this board is really updated.
Is it possible that teaching can be outsourced?
the date is 2014, It a nice day. You drop off your kids to public school to for them to watch a huge plasma screen that has a teacher in it. And guess what... Its via Satellite, from India. Im getting goosebumps.... Arg. Its also outsourced. Oh im having a nightmare. I hope its its just a nightmare.
Just 1 in 12 yrs. 1 other was teaching hosp, I was
one department's Transcriptionist for 2 years.
Going into QA, getting a supervisor job or MT teaching job... SM
is easier said than done. A lot of times, transcription supervisors at a hospital are required to be an RHIT, in the old days it was an ART. Took me forever to break into QA. A lot of companies hire you as an MT and tell you they promote from within. And teaching jobs are even tougher to find, they are few and far between.
You best bet, if you choose to stay in the MT business, is to strike out on your own. Start your own online school and charge MTs $1200 or more a pop. Or start your own MT business, but it's hard to do that with the monster services out there buying up every little guy they can sink their claws into.
I've decided coding is the best avenue for me and that's what I've been studying on my own, but it's taking forever because their so much to absorb, not to mention up to date books are MUST in coding and the books are $100 (ICD-9-CM and CPT) and that doesn't include HCPCS book. And if you don't buy the new books every year, you can't pass the test. So I'm trying to do it on my own without paying another school for another education that might end up outsourced overseas anyway.
You said have experience in teaching
transcription and medical terms but have you actually done the transcription yourself, not just the teaching part?
IMO, BOS made as teaching aid for when they
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Why work for a co who is teaching sm
people in Barbados how to do MT so they can compete with us too? No thanks.
Teaching hospitals & residents...
I work for a very large university hospital account and hate how long-winded some of these residents can be! Argh! Especially 1st year - just a plain chest xray turns into a thesis! And the attendings aren't much better - they love to "teach" on my time! What is your preference - teaching hospitals (which admittedly are great teaching grounds for MT's) or regular, plain old boring regular hospitals? These residents make me want to........
RE: Teaching hospitals & residents...
Teaching hospitals.
How funny; I'm going from transcription to teaching soon!
I already have my teaching certificate, just need to get out there and teach. Been doing MT for about 10 years now, so I can stay home with my kids. It's been nice, but I really need the retirement and other bennies that teaching will provide.
Teaching MT at an unethical school....sm
It was a private school that once students enrolled for any programs they would basically lie to them and never would fail anyone. If a student failed a test the instructors were told to give them the same test again, after reviewing the test questions and answers prior to giving them the 2nd test. Honest to goodness 1st graders have it harder than that! The icing on the cake was when I told my students the reality of what to expect for pay scales after graduation. The school had enrolled everyone with the "you'll be making $60-80k after graduation" crap. I lasted exactly 2 weeks there before I quit over their unethical behavior.
Depends on which grade you will be teaching, but
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Another thing about teaching hospitals
is that you will see things there that you might not see at your 90-bed facilities.
These hospitals do everything and if I were you, I would just wait and see. I think you will find that the experience alone will be invaluable to you.
I know MTs who have been MTs forever that have never had the experience of a teaching hospital and are limited in the surgeries that they have transcribed.
Congratulations on your new job.
This has jumped from "mentoring" to teaching....sm
Starting a school would be the last thing I would want to do. I have thought about simple "mentoring," not all the other hassels. I think the original poster means that also but maybe as an employee. I would want to do it on my own just for a few people at a time. As I said before....not big bucks.....
I think teaching pre-teens how to do laundry
I think 10-12 year olds can help do some laundry - it helps them develop a work ethic and shows them that if they go out on their own, what they will have to do....well, the ones who don't continually bring their laundry back to their mothers. *LOL* AND they love eaning $$$ - it's a great way, instead of *tossing* allowances at them.....chores/laundry/etc. = few dollars in their little pockets *S*
It's all about deals and contracts w/kids I think....and I'm a pro...on the subject, as I have some....*lol*
Your exactly correct, schools are teaching (sm)
My 8th grader has to do 1 space after periods in all typed reports for school, that is what they teach for formatting typed documents now.
Also, I am in nursing school and we follow APA format, which also specifies 1 space after a period.
2 is definitely not the way things will be soon, so hold onto it if you can for now.
I still do 2 spaces for work because I get paid for spaces and those spaces do add up to $$.
I would advise you to continue teaching! nm
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teaching dictators to dictate better
Exactly! But where is the motivation for them to do so? Yes, if you point out to them that they could be spending less time dictating and more efficiently whereby freeing them up to do patient care, maybe they'd listen. Certainly, if it hit them in the pocket there would be motivation to improve. For instance, if really, really, notoriously bad dictators were charged higher rates there would be big incentive to get/teach the providers how to use the equipment and how to dictate better. Money is a strong motivator!
I think about how there is going to be greater and greater emphasis on reducing costs of providing medical care. There's a huge opportunity for clinics/doctors/hospitals to improve and become much more efficient with transcribing. And who better to train them than us!!
I have one now where we CAP, bold and underline them (teaching hospital) -
and on one I used to only capa and bold. Everyone is different.
tsk, tsk, tsk..teaching your children to lie and cheat..nice..NOT
275-310 lph - one account-large teaching hospital
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Hmm. My account (huge teaching hospital) has it, and
I still think the healthcare game is in for a huge shakeup in the not-too-distant future. Quality and confidentiality of medical records will be part of the picture when it finally all gets examined under the new government's microscope. And I don't think they're going to like what they see one bit. If the general population finds out how shoddy their records (and affected health care) are, you better believe some U-no-wat is gonna hit the fan.
I guess teaching took away your sense of humor
That WAS advice. The MT industry STINKS right now.
I wonder if CS is ALSO teaching Coding to India & other countries?
I know they teach MT to India and other countries, the latest one being Jamaica.
Yet they still take money from US students, even though they are training overseas to help them take more jobs away.
Philadelphia - $25 per hour at a large teaching hospital. nm
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I was teaching, and Katrina hit, and I decided I needed a job that could move with me if need be.
I have a friend who was an MT (actually, she and 2 of her sisters are MTs). When I asked her what she did, it was like a light going off in my mind--it sounded really interesting, since I loved typing and grammar and had good ears (I thought). When Katrina hit, I took time during our enforced semester off to take an online course, loved it, and began working as an MT. I discovered quickly that having good musical ears is not the same thing as having good MT ears!
What I love about MT work is that it is so interesting. I get to learn every day without having to actually be there to see/smell/hear. I am fascinated by the human machine and enjoy learning about it in detail.
Eventually, I'd like to move into a mentoring/teaching position with young or new MTs, but I need more years of experience before that happens. I totally admire those of you who have been doing this for a long time-- you guys have amazing ears and I'm always impressed by the knowledge you have picked up by working! That's what I aspire to, as well.
I worked in a teaching/major trauma hospital
when I was doing radiology and we had scads of standards.
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