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The Holloway tragedy.

Posted By: Anon on 2005-07-16
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I so admire Beth Holloway Twitty.  I could not get on the politcal board.  My problem is this; in the area in which I live, a little black girl was taken into the ER, and although she has had very little press, the docs already said she was dead for 14 hours at least, she has not gotten one bit of press.  What is wrong with this country when a white girl, (obviously upper-middle class) is missing and it gets such press, and a little black girl goes into the ER, already 14 hours dead at least and not one bit of press?  By the way, I am white and prejudiced but I am beginning to see why black people have an attitude.


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Holloway
I agree with girls getting away from home and acting stupid. Just look at the video clips of the girls on spring break in the US and mom and dad think all they are doing is lying sunning on the beach somewhere. I don't think Natalie was that kind of dumb, but all it takes is one time. I was raised in Ft. Lauderdale and my friends and I used to spend time just walking the strip by the Elbo Room and Omar's just to see the guys. I went to church every Sunday, never said boo in school and never misbehaved. But, I got some attention from a good looking guy and his friends and my friends and we all wound up in their car. I was raped. I never reported it. It would have devastated my parents. Thankfully, I never got pregnant. You better believe my daughters heard the truth from me about spring break and graduation cruises. I knew better, but I just used bad, bad judgment. It could have been worse. I thank God it wasn't. So, I can look at both sides of the Aruba story. I'm sorry for the mother, but I remeber the stupidity of a 17-year-old very well.
holloway and prejudice

Thank you for your insightful post.  Gosh..will we ever get it right?? In my life time?  I sure hope so.. 


Holloway & Twitty Families
I feel sorry for both of the families, but just because you want an answer doesn't make people guility because you think they are. Women disappear in the US ALL THE TIME and no one cares because they arent' young, blonde, and come from money. It doesn't make their lives less than Holloway's. She used bad judgment, her parents used bad judgment. Does anyone know of a 17-year-old girl who behaves "correctly" in an atmosphere like Aruba? They let their daughter go to a "foreign country" unchaperoned. They used bad judgment and now they are looking for someone to point a finger at to take the guilt off their backs. Holloway's mother has no right to throw a temper tantrum about the Aruban system. She's not in Kansas anymore!!! Said to say, but she needs to come to grips with reality.
holloway and twitty famillies
TO old TM, who is to say that natalle holloway used bad judgement, where you there? if you followed the story from the beginning, you would have known that there were chaperoned in that foreign country. I don't believe that her parent used bad judgement at all. Ana I think beth twitty has every right to point a finger, when all she is getting is a bunch of lies from the arubans, from day one.
no, tragedy is NOT funny
-- unfortunately some people don't comprehend this. This kind of so-called humor is bad taste.
oh well then? You are asking for a tragedy and don't say your dogs would never do that,,,
ANY dog can bite and a dog that doesn't know it's place in the pack family, is a tragedy waiting to happen. 
I wouldn't wish this tragedy on anyone, ever, but...

I do not admire the Amish in general.  I did, when I thought of them in the stereotypical way that many people do.  Then I learned about how they treat the women in their society when I watched a story on Dateline recently (and read some other things): 


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6839718/from/RL.5 


And how they treat their animals and have so many puppy mills:


http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/murray112805.html (just go to Goggle and type in Amish puppy mills).


Now I don't think of them as any better or worse than the rest of our society, religious or otherwise.  I feel sorry for the women in their closed, oppressive (only to women, of course), patriarchal society, and I wonder if theirs is a "culture" or a cult. 


I feel so bad for those little girls that were shot, and maybe it's not appropriate for me to be saying this now, with the recent events, but I hate to see people thinking of the Amish as so wonderful... 


Minnesota tragedy.....

Perhaps this doesn't belong on any board here, but I felt I just needed to say something about the very tragic state of medical transcription.  I have been an MT for over 40 years, most of which occurred in the clinical setting, but I also worked for 4 years at a very large MTSO.


No one in our wonderful profession is going to get anything changed until en masse.  If we don't stick up for ourselves and that means going to governmental officials (those people get sick too and do have medical records!), the media and other well-known sources where the message could potentially be heard world-wide, then we have only ourselves to blame.  I know this is a huge undertaking but if we don't like it (and I hear that many don't) then we have to impact it.  I would, for one, feel so much better telling my children and grandchildren that I had taken part in a grassroots movement to try and change/impact the manner in which a patient's medical visits were documented rather than leaving millions (ha, ha!) for them to use on fancy cars, trips, etc.


We only have today---some people who died on the bridge or drowned here in Minneapolis last evening will never again get a chance to make any impact ever again!


Have a great day.......  


Josh Holloway ("Sawyer" on Lost) and
George Clooney can still make me looney -- though we're all getting older ...
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Speaking of Aruba and Natalle Holloway from post below
It looks like the Arubans are forming a protest of their own who are offended at Mrs. Twitty and the media reporting they are not conducting a proper investigation and their system is bad while America's system of law and order allowed the sex offenders kill children in Florida and Idaho.  The Aruban people have a point you know.  One news person interviewed protestors and a very literate gentleman suggested Mrs. Twitty was under Aruban law and she should respect that or go home.  In a short statement Mrs. Twitty seems to be backtracking after the protests after Mrs. Twitty stated the legal system allowed criminals (the two brothers) to go free and walk among its citizens and tourists.  It's about time these people speak out when Americans come over and criticize their government without a clue how it works or if it is working.
18,000+ have perished in Pakistan. A terrible tragedy has occured in the world, we should
whether offshore services can't work.  Any way you look at it, people are people.  To the original poster, have some respect.