Thank you, Explaining Ebonics, this all

Posted By: mm on 2009-05-03
In Reply to: more on blanks - Explaining Ebonics

makes sense and is very logical to me.

Isn't this then also the same problem when we correct VR?

Then we first read the word in the downloaded document, then listen to it, then think what it might be.

So we are confronted with 3 versions, sometimes.

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Please answer my question: sm - mm
- Not all companies use "markers." We - SM
- By the way....... - mm
- I also want to thank DeeAnn who answered - mm
- I want to thank 'Explaiing Ebonics' and 'Happy MTRobin' - mm
  - By the way, mm, did your original question ever get answered? - Explaining Ebonics
    - Thank you so much 'Explaining Ebonics'! - mm
      - more on blanks - Explaining Ebonics
        Thank you, Explaining Ebonics, this all - mm
      - it's just that it is a difficult question - sa
        sa, thank you so much, this answered all my questions...nm - mm
- When did MTs become a bunch - Happy MT Robin
  - Well put. Robin. - Cece
  - No one was being PARANOID except the OP - NOT Paranoid/NOT Worried
  - The 'unusual' in my post was that I was too polite. - mm
    - And to top it off, I send a THANK YOU not to the - mm
      - NOTE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nm - mm
        LOL, but to the rude ones.....sm - Ella (retired)
        nothing what you say makes any sense! - mm
        Leave me alone. nm - Ella (retired)
- Depends on your company. One I work--sm - DeeAnn
  - Thank you for your - mm
    - Are you in India? - Curious
      - Just curious: I RESIDE IN NEW YORK and you in a little village in the Midwest, right?...nm - mm
      - What is YOUR USUAL English?...sm - mm
        I just speak plain ole Texas vernacular....sm - Ella (retired)
        How are WE supposed to understand you?...nm - mm
        WE understood her just fine - Happy MT Robin
        Robin, you're a delight, always so positive. ) nm - Ella (retired)
        Just don't read my posts. :) nm - Ella (retired)
      - Does that make a difference to you? nm - Just Me
        Makes a difference to me. - Catfight
        Afraid to lose your job? Go and fight with your cats! .nm - Meow, Meow!
        THANK YOU........sm - USA MT
        Honestly, and no bad feelings, but .... - mm
        Obviously not - Curious
        YOU ARE BIZARRE !...nm - mm
        Did you say bezoar? :D :D nm - Ella (retired)
        And YOU are a tad too defensive - Curious
        Geeez, do you imply that you still doubt that I am an - mm
        So do I, LOL.....sm - Ella (retired native Texan MT)
        Yes, it is SHUT UP or APOLOGIZE!...nm - mm
        Wow! If my 8 year old used that word S/U - he'd be in time out for a looong time.
        Yowza! Them's fightin' words! :D :D nm - Ella (retired)
        Wow, its sad y'all don't have anything better to do - like watch TV ?- just got here
        Read the WHOLE THREAD, from the begnning,then you'll understand!...sm - mm
        For CURIOUS: You are not curious, you are paranoid and a sociopath - --
        True dat. :D sm - Ella (retired)
        Old lady: What language is: 'Bizoar?' Go to bed!...nm - mm
        I took it to be a play on words - sa
        maybe she means 'pissoir', it's French, look it up!...nm - yz
        No, no, "bezoar" is a medical term....sm - Ella (retired)
        Now I know why they retired you...that's - mm
        you must have not done much sm - MT30+
        Just glad I never had one! :D :D nm - Ella (retired)
        Here's the definition I found: sm - Ella (retired)
        This is the definition I found, it's - mm
        Let's move on to something else. :D nm - Ella (retired)
        yak and eeewww!...nm - mm
        P. S. Google it! :) nm - Ella (retired)
        spare your weird comments....little old ladies should stay in bed....nm - mm
        Zzzzzz! :D Don't feed the trolls. nm - Ella (retired)
        whaqt is this supposed to mean at the end of your posts: D?...Enlighten me!...nm - -
        It's the chat board version of a smile - Happy MT Robin
        And:.........sm - mm
        Apparently - PassingThru
        It is not that I am 'frothing' at my mouth - mm
        She made a weird comment to the post - mm
        No time right now, gotta go....sm - Ella (retired)
        I did read the thread - Happy MT Robin
        Never would post a thing like that...sm - Ella (retired)
        No, 'curious' posted under 'obviously not' - mm
        "true dat" - innocent bystander who did real the whole thread
        In her post 'True dat' she writes: - mm
        We don't know. :D :D - Ella (retired)
        Ebonics - Explaining Ebonics
        I love it! sm - Ella (retired)
        Sometimes, when they let an Indian speak - mm
        If you've never heard of Ebonics, you can't possibly be in NY - LOL
        what garbage! - mm
        Well, as for me, I always feel flattered....sm - Ella (retired)
        axe vs. ask, wrench vs. rinse - Explaining Ebonics
        Do you want to tell me that 'curious' - mm
        Syntax Report - Explaining Ebonics
        For Pete's sake, let it go - Happy MT Robin
        o.k, thanks...................nm - mm
        Ya ain't helping yourself - MTTwo
        BINGO - LOL
        What are you talking about? You are certainly confused - mm
        Oh, for crying out loud, let it go. nm - Ella (retired)
        dude, I'm agreeing with you - Happy MT Robin
        Thank you 'Happy Robin'.....sm - mm
        It is better that you stay 'retired.'.....nm - mm
        Personal insults are unprofessional. nm - Ella (retired)

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Ebonics
Ebonics was the name for the dialect in the US also known as 'black English' - where that becomes dat, neighborhood becomes da-hood. Grammar rules also get turned on their head. As in: 'We be goin' to da sto... ya want some chickin'?

Now before anybody slams me for explaining this - go look it up yourself. There was a movement about 20 years ago to actually accept Ebonics as an alternative form of English.

One that speaks EBONICS. - nm
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Thank you so much 'Explaining Ebonics'!
You strike me as a very nice person.
Yes, DeeAnn answered my question, very clearly, and I thanked her.

About blanks and markers:

If I cannot hear something well, I type 5 underscores, then I send a 'note' to my QA
with _____ 2:30, what is the time marker.
This is no problem, I KNOW this.

My particular question was, how shall I 'mark' it for the QA in case I THINK I heard correctly, but I am not sure!
Shall I put the questionable word berween 2 question marks, like that: ?bezoar? or shall I just put _____ and the time marker?

Did you finally understand what I mean with my question?

Is it a stupid question? Is it possible that the so experienced MTs (???) therefore thought that I might be Indian? And it had right from the beginning nothing to do with my grammar or my syntax?

I think this was what paranoid 'curious' assumed that I just asked a question that was too stupid to be asked by an US MT.

On this board it is always emphasized:
There are no stupid questions.

What hypocrites.

We call that ebonics here in Hotlanta.
lol

I am so against ebonics and I live in the south
Here close to Atlanta it is ridiculous to hear all the time. It is so different from what you describe above. I would rather had a very fast, slurring of words physician speaking than to hear a professional using English wrong. I actually was having a very big problem with it before moving from Atlanta and hearing it day in and day out on the news channels. I really had to tune it out, that is how bad it was. I did not allow it spoken in my home, ever and by the way, it was being offered in the lower grades in school. Some blacks, as in my post above, consider speaking without ebonics, speaking white. What a shame!

I was referring to the "anymore", not the ebonics.
nm

Thank you for explaining! :) (nm)
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Thank you for explaining what
Thank you for giving me examples of what feedback can look like. Maybe some day I will find a company that offers me constructive, supportive and respectful feedback. Like I mentioned, I receive no feedback. Just my blanks are filled in or left blank because QA did not know either!

Thank you for explaining *sm*
I feel like I have a pretty good idea of how it works now. Since IT is somewhat expensive, I wanted to understand the basics before the purchase! :)

Also, here is another very basic question...what exactly is a platform? I've heard it mentioned a lot, but haven't figured out exactly what it is.

Thanks!!!

RIGHT! Thanks for explaining that better than I did. nm
nm

meant to include ebonics is used and accepted
in this town. The schools are 95% segregated in the town. Very old southern roots. They do not care for change. Teaching children to speak properly is considered taking away from their "heritage". Why we moved here? Not really sure. People are very nice though. You are in the minority if you can speak, write, or read properly. Also, it is 100 miles or so SW of Columbus, GA, 30 miles or so NE of Albany

If you've never heard of Ebonics, you can't possibly be in NY
Unless you just landed from another country.

Sorry, but I would assume at the very least (and I mean VERY least) 80% of Americans know what Ebonics is.

The very fact you took 'dat' to be a slam to Indians kinda shows something struck a nerve with you.

If you live in NYC as you claimed earlier, I doubt you've been here long.

Flame away, knock yourself out...You sound LESS American with every post. I fail to see how someone inquiring if you were in India would result in such pure unadulterated outrage unless a nerve had been struck.

I'm outta this thread and off to work.

I want to thank 'Explaiing Ebonics' and 'Happy MTRobin'
for their comments.
These 2 are the only ones who showed to have a brain when answerin g my 1st question.
I am not Indian, not black, I live in New York. I am white and I have no contact with people who talk Ebonics.

To all the others who gave 'paranoid', actually 'stupid' comments to my question that opened this thread, I PITY you and get some education or visit a psychiatrist.

Definitely the most deranged poster is 'NOT PARANOID/NOT WORRIED.

It's our governments way of explaining. It's not
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okay, thanks for responding/explaining..NM

Thanks for explaining commands
Thanks for explaining how I would put a command together. I did purchase Cheryl and Jon's Word Command glossary by periodtocomma and commatoperiod was not in it. So I will be creating a lot of my own commands. If you have anymore commands that are like the one you just explained to me or know where I can from some I would really appreciate it you could tell me where to find them. I am trying to use my keyboard more and not that MOUSE! I need to speed up!!! Thanks

*Ebonics* refers to the street slang, etc. (often heard in -sm
rap music, etc. Lots of white people, Hispanics, and even some Asians (all gangsta' wannabes) speak Ebonics as well. It's practically a second language in itself, so referring Ebonics-speakers to ESL isn't off the mark at all.

letter explaining that since they have determined
we are 20% more productive with ASR we deserve a 20% pay cut. Do you suppose they are giving the client a 20% break? Yes, it IS the entire company, anyone that does Automated Speech Recognition.

Thank you for explaining, Busybee! I kept seeing people
refer to "the other board" and I had no idea what that was! I was just curious!

Would you mind explaining why you think this is against HIPAA?
xx

I've been getting e-mails explaining it.
Maybe you aren't on company e-mail or you haven't checked it?

Thanks for explaining! Makes more sense
NM

I give once a day if shopping and don't bother explaining if I gave elsewhere. nm
nm

Explaining my occasional bitter-/crankiness
I confess, I am one of those that will occasionally toss a snide comment in. I don't think I have ever gotten to the point of being brutally mean, but I have been snippy. And it may be petty and it may be unnecessary, but, in my case anyway, it stems from a frustration when obvious newbs post a question that at least in my mind seems simplistic (based on the s/l they are able to provide) and should either be a common knowledge type thing or else easily findable. After a day of plodding through ESLs, rapid-fire dictators, or reports that have more chromosome testing than I have chromosomes, I do get a little cranky when someone who probably only makes $50 less a week than I do posts on here asking what 'conjecture hard fail your' might be and respond in a somewhat less than mature way.

Ebonics: Not a black thing or white thing. (sm)

I don't think there's any cause to get upset or defensive here. Look it up on line...even colleges are offering courses in Ebonics! ...well of course they are more sociology-type courses, but still, people are PAYING to learn about the why's and how's of this "other" language.

A quote from one of the sites I found:

"UT-Austin's "Introduction to the Study of African American English," teaches students that the sentence, "Nobody didn't leave" is not "mainstream English with mistakes," but rather a legitimate English dialect. "Ebonics: Myth and Facts" and "African-American English" are both offered at Harvard. Penn and UCLA also promote Ebonics as a legitimate dialect in, "Introduction to African American and Latino English" and "Afro-American Sociolinguistics: Black English," respectively."

Here's the link: http://www.academia.org/campus_reports/2002/september_2002_2.html