Tessier's has lots of errors in it. My MTSO
Posted By: me on 2007-04-14
In Reply to: Tessier's is great! Used in combo with the Sted's Ortho and you're good! nm - wanderer
told me to toss it. I don't know how often they update, my copy is several years old, but Stedman's is MUCH better.
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lots of errors in spelling. it's sm
been a long day.
MTSO will deduct for errors?
Hello everyone. I signed a contract that my company can deduct for a certain percentage of errors or too many blanks. Is this the norm? Please advise. I have 10 years of experience but I am still concerned.
I do not agree with deduction for errors, don't do it and don't understand why other MTSO do i
Lots of 'em, but use a Lab Words, Sted's Ortho/Rehab Words, & Tessier's Surgical Words most
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Lots of inexpensive decorations at Big Lots. Had a party last year.
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Two errors per page is a LOT of errors! nm
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LOTS and LOTS of video tapes and DVDs.
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Tessier useless??? OMG!
I could not work without my Tessier. It's open all day and the pages flying. A real must for every MT who does op notes.
I use both Stedman's and Tessier
Stedman's for any equipment or materials and Tessier for names of procedures, surgical positions and maneuvers, etc. I also use Google a lot.
more on Claudia Tessier...research and see for yourself...
Press Release
MoHCA Appoints Tessier as Executive Director
Mobile Healthcare Alliance Chair Ann Geyer Announces Appointment of Claudia Tessier, CAE, as MoHCA's Executive Director
WASHINGTON DC, September 1, 2001
Mobile Healthcare Alliance (MoHCA) is a not-for-profit organization formed to help healthcare vendors and providers influence the adoption of standard practices in mobile data management to ensure professional practices and patient trust. It announces now the selection of Claudia Tessier, CAE, as its Executive Director.
Tessier will direct MoHCA activities throughout the United States and internationally from its Washington DC office. She brings to MoHCA 18 years of association executive experience and leadership in healthcare informatics. She currently serves as chair of ASTM's standards committee E31 for healthcare informatics and is a member of numerous standards organizations including ANSI Health Informatics Standards Board and ISO TC 215 on Health Informatics.
"Mobile health care will facilitate a revolution in health care, and I am excited to head this organization, which will help providers and vendors address the issues of security standards, interoperability, and information management," said Tessier.
"Tessier's experience in data capture and health informatics standards provides an exciting background for MoHCA to become the leading organization to address privacy, interoperability, and user issues in mobile data management," noted Ann Geyer, Chair of the MOCHA Board of Directors.
Palm, Inc. is one of the founding members of MoHCA. "Many mobile healthcare applications are very promising, but user acceptance and confidentiality must first be resolved," said Dan Glessner, Director of Enterprise Marketing at Palm. "We are pleased that MoHCA has attracted an executive director of Tessier's caliber. She has the necessary experience and expertise to assist the board in developing MoHCA as the leader in resolving the issues that will enable widespread adoption of mobile healthcare applications."
"The healthcare industry presents a huge potential market for mobile technology products, but there are real issues related to data integration standards as well as data privacy and security. MoHCA is an excellent forum for really understanding the requirements and developing workable standards and best practices. With Tessier to lead and help grow the organization, MoHCA's ability to influence positive action is greatly enhanced," noted Paul Steinichen, Vice President of Enterprise Technology Solutions at First Consulting Group.
MoHCA Members
The diverse membership of MoHCA is unified by a shared interest of ensuring that mobile applications are incorporated into healthcare processes with appropriate regard for the privacy, confidentiality, and security of health information.
MoHCA Members include wireless carriers, application developers, device manufacturers, system integrators, technology consultants, practitioners, healthcare professional societies, and healthcare organizations.
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For further information:
Ann Geyer
Chair, MoHCA Board of Directors
209-754-9130
ageyer@tunitas.com
Claudia Tessier, CAE
Executive Director, MoHCA
202-452-0889
ctessier@mohca.org
Website: www.mohca.org
my point actually was that Claudia Tessier
is a contributing Editor to the BOS, the so-called 'bible' for MTs, and how many other books she has written. She is a CAE, CMT, and here she is as a front-runner pushing for the technology that will no doubt do away with our jobs.
Anyone know, does she have any advice for MTs now, is there any other direction we can shift towards to keep our jobs to stay in this field?
This is what she is heading now:
Health Information Transcription and Documentation (E31.22)
The E31.22 subcommittee recently approved two new standards. The Standard Guide for Data Capture through the Dictation Process (E2344) enhances the quality of documentation by improving the dictation process, thereby improving the dictated message.
The Standard Guide for Speech Recognition Products in Health Care (E2364) assists users in making informed decisions about the design and utilization of speech-recognition systems.
Call Ms. Tessier. Here is her contact info:
Claudia Tessier Executive Director, MoHCA 2100 M St NW, #170-343 Washington DC 20037 Tel 202-452-0889 Email: ctessier@attglobal.net
Was it the Surgery Word Book by Tessier? nm
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Claudia Tessier's Third edition 2004, I have
Agree - Tessier Surg GREAT!
I love the Tessier Surgical Word Book, too. One other nice feature is that the new edition will lie flat. Just turn it to the page you need, and it stays right there.
Tessier is not a very good reference book. I have one but
haven't used it in years. I would suggest getting a Stedman's. I believe they just had a new one come out either this year or last year. There is new equipment all the time, so an updated book would save you lots of time from searching on-line.
Surgical Word Book (Tessier, NOT Stedman's). nm
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Tessier's as mentioned & Surgical Word Book
By far, Tessier Surgical Word Book! The Bomb!
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Agree w/the Tessier's, but I don't think plans are in the works for an updated one. :( nm
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page 179 in Tessier's Surgical Words..chromic..nm
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Tessier's Surgical Word book is great for ops
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The Surgical Word Book by Claudia Tessier (see message)
is set up like that. It is black with silver and GREEN lettering.
Love, love, LOVE this book! Good luck!
Also onelook.com as the Dorland's links right off there. Book would be Tessier's Surgical Word
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Tessier's is great! Used in combo with the Sted's Ortho and you're good! nm
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Has anyone used Tessier paper back version 5 x 8 book with over 2000 pages - does that make it hard
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Updating surgical references - new Stedmans Word Book, Tessier Surgery Book or others - best one in
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Ya still got errors
Keep trying, you are almost there!
if you had that many errors
then something was wrong from the get go.
>>>It sounded good because I thought it would be less wear and tear on my hands. I type already all day on a FT regular job. I never had a report that didn't need massive changing and it just didn't take long to see that I was getting the proverbial screw.
Like I many times before: [1] have the correct sound card; [2] have the correct microphone (the one that comes with the product is probably not good enough); [3] have VR analyze as many documents as you have available (I have more than 500 MB); [4] add words and phrases to the Word List (decreases errors in the long run); [5] do not dictate like you talk to someone ... you need to ar-ti-cu-late correctly; [6] take the time to correct errors when they occur or at the end of the day. But, if you see an error and change it manually, the program is not going to learn; [7] You cannot use VR for all dictators, but you can for all good dictators. I would not use it for the nightmares from hell, unless they are so repetitive you know what they are going to say as soon as they start to say it.
These are the most critical factors involved with using SR (speech recognition) software. If you eliminate or skip over any ONE of these items, you're going to reduce accuracy.
I've been averaging 99.5% (one to two errors per page) for a long time. It think it's obvious I'm doing something right.
There's nothing more I can say.
Errors
Aunt Bea -- no question is a dumb question. I personally correct errors as soon as I see them. I always have the fear that my spellchecker will not pick them up -- for instance if the error was "too" instead of "to" your spellchecker would not catch it. I leave nothing to chance. Hope this helps.
errors
.25 for typos, commas that don't affect the sentence
2.0 for missed medical terms
2.0 for incorrect use of a medical or nonmedical term
0 for leaving out a significant part of a sentence or replacing anything in a sentence that is not said.
when in doubt - leave a blank
errors
Is it typical for a co. to deduct for errors? I have had some, but nothing that is overly noticable.
Errors
Do you find that it irritates you probably more than it should to see errors in the newspaper, etc.? I mean, something that will be read by so many people should be proofread to perfection, don't you think? They seem to just jump out at me and I know I'm more critical since I am an MT. How about you?
No, I don't think it is about errors....sm
work is sent to other countries because it is cheaper.
errors
I have a question. Ok say I want to go in to my system tools and do a scan to check for errors and if any fix them. Well I thought this should be in my system tools section. It was with my old computer. On this one which is Windows XP it has disk scan cleanup or something like that to get rid of unnecessary files. Well what about scanning for errors. I don't see that option. Maybe I am missing something?
errors
See when I first started my first job the owner sent me a paper and it had certain things to do to my computer every so often and it said once a month "Scan Disk for errors" and I remember doing this on my Windows 98 but I don't see anything like that on this one. I do defragment once a month. The paper had that also on it. But in addition to defragmenting it said scan disk for errors. I thought that is what I was doing when I did a disk cleanup but I think the disk cleanup is just getting rid of unnecessary files. I can't ask the lady because she died right after I went to work for her. Like in a month. Poor lady. The company was taken over by another company then. I don't know I probably need to ask someone who also worked for Janelle too (previous owners name).
Errors!!
and on several occasions, found glaring errors in my and/or my husband's chart.
errors
Whichever company you work for, take it as a wake-up call that maybe you have gotten a little sloppy and try to pay closer attention. I mean no offense at all with that. I have been in the same position and it's hard to swallow your pride and have your errors pointed out to you when you are used to being trusted and not QA'd much. As long as the QA at the new company is not condescending I'd stick with it and take it as a challenge to sharpen up.
if you do not get less pay for errors, try to take it
with a grain of salt. grammar errors should not affect your QA score, overall, yes? I too sometimes get a little nauseated at people who go through my work always with something to prove where I swear they just refuse to let a report go by without finding something. Then there are the wonderful QA people who use it more as a training tool and really help and cut some slack.
in reality, these hospitals do not seem to care a pinch about patient care and I have seen that upfront. they send work overseas to save a buck and cut corners in EVERY single area of the hospitals leaving patients with sometimes nonexistent care at all. it is such a game. the stories I could tell when I first started transcription - there was no QA or any such entity whatsoever and it never seemed to matter much back then.
...and don't get me started with these companies who expect perfection, for a whopping 8 cents a line - ??????? say what?
I oftentimes feel like a slave literally as just some 12 plus years ago this was a great profession for someone like myself with no official college education. I used to be so proud of myself...
but for the most part constructive criticism is welcome.
wish I could offer some hope but from where I sit day in and day out things only seem they will get worse. they are really pushing for certification - this whole country is doing things wrong lately. can't even go any further just makes me depressed.
It could be the errors were in the
transciption of the dictation itself and therefore not available to her.
VR changes a lot of errors for you
and I am glad for that. I took ShortHand in high school back in the dinosaur years and it has helped me so much. I keep my foot on the pedal and as fast as I can go, hardly lift it off.
some examples of errors
You did not specify how many examples you wanted, so I included quite a few, hope it helps. All of these are from one group of radiologists, all american. In answer to your question, unfortunately most of these I believe to be the result of laziness.
THREE-VIEW RIGHT HAND
There is decreased relative small of the distal aspect of the 4th metacarpal. (There is diminished size of the distal aspect of the 4th metacarpal.) Otherwise, the hand is unremarkable in appearance for a patient of this young age.
MRI LUMBAR SPINE
This is best visualized from L3-4 through L5-S1 where there are actual images in addition to the sagittal imaging through the entire lumbar spine.( This is best visualized from L3-4 through L5-S1 where there are axial images in addition to the sagittal imaging through the entire lumbar spine.)
ABDOMEN, THREE VIEWS
The colon has lost his Hounsfield markings in the transverse portion and splenic flexure. (The colon has lost its haustral markings in the transverse portion and splenic flexure. )
CT ABDOMEN W/WO CONTRAST
There is a small left inguinal hernia with fat within the hernia sac but no bile (no bowel). No inguinal lymphadenopathy.
NAME OF EXAMINATION: Sinuses.
FINDINGS: Paranasal sinuses demonstrate generally some metric pneumatization.( Paranasal sinuses demonstrate generally symmetric pneumatization) No bony abnormality is seen.
MRI OF THE LUMBAR SPINE
Compared to December 23, 2003, there has been no objective change in the L5-S1 left posterolateral disk herniation. It causes narrowing at the left lateral recess. It doe snot produce central stenosis. ( It does not produce central stenosis.)
OB ULTRASOUND COMPLETE
There is no polyhydramnios. However, the fetal kidneys are abnormally hyperechoic. This has been associated with polycystic kidney disease and so I recommend a postnasal follow-up study.( This has been associated with polycystic kidney disease and so I recommend a postnatal follow-up study.)
MRI OF THE HIPS WITHOUT IV CONTRAST
The muscles about the shoulder show normal signal on all sequences.( The muscles about the hips show normal signal on all sequences. ) There are no soft tissue masses.
RIGHT HIP TWO VIEWS
DISCUSSION: There has been destruction of the right femoral headache and femoral neck.( There has been destruction of the right femoral head and femoral neck. )
AP PORTABLE CHEST
EXAM DATE: January 22, 2005 at January 12, 2005 hours(January 22, 2005 )
MRI ANGIO ABDOMEN BEFORE AND AFTER IV CONTRAST
TECHNIQUE: 3-D time of flight MRA of the abdominal aorta and renal arteries was obtained following contrast administration. In addition, evidence of the kidneys was also obtained before and after IV contrast.( In addition, imaging of the kidneys was also obtained before and after IV contrast.)
TWO-VIEW CHEST
FINDINGS: Left apical pneumothorax measuring 1-2% is stable. Left lower lobe maxillary sinus is again demonstrated.( Left lower lobe mass is again demonstrated. )There are no other findings.
GALLBLADDER ULTRASOUND
In the porta hepatis, there is a consistent with echogenic lesion measuring 1.1 cm.( In the porta hepatis, there is an echogenic lesion measuring 1.1 cm) This could represent a lymph node in the porta but also could represent an exophytic hepatic meningioma. (This could represent a lymph node in the porta but also could represent an exophytic hepatic hemangioma. )
OB ULTRASOUND COMPLETE
DISCUSSION: There is moderate dilatation of the left renal pelvis. There is mild dilatation on the right. However, neither uterus is abnormally dilated. (However, neither ureter is abnormally dilated. )
ULTRASOUND OF RIGHT BREAST
There is heterogeneous echo texture in that region compatible with typical combination of breast parenchyma and fatty/femoral tissue, but a discrete mass lesion is not identified. (There is heterogeneous echo texture in that region compatible with typical combination of breast parenchyma and fatty/normal tissue, but a discrete mass lesion is not identified.)
AP PORTABLE CHEST
Underlying fusion is suggested, again worse on the left than the right. (Underlying effusion is suggested, again worse on the left than the right.)
LEFT SECOND TOE
There is an old, healed fracture of the proximal phalanx of th cleft third toe.( There is an old, healed fracture of the proximal phalanx of the left third toe.)
TWO-VIEW CHEST
There are remote compression fractures involving the right 5th and 6th ribs.( There are remote fractures involving the right 5th and 6th ribs. ) The lungs are otherwise clear.
THYROID ULTRASOUND
DISCUSSION: In the left lobe of the thyroid, there is a moderately large maxillary sinus that measures 2.2 cm in greatest diameter and is mostly sold and have a cystic center. (In the left lobe of the thyroid, there is a moderately large complex mass that measures 2.2 cm in greatest diameter and is mostly solid and has a cystic center.) The remainder of the left lobe is normal.
There is a small 6 mm nodule in the inferior aspect of the right lobe. The gland itself is not overall enlargement. (The gland itself is not overall enlarged.) The gland is heterogeneous overall in echogenicity.
TWO-VIEW ABDOMEN
No convincing evidence of small bowel obstruction, although developing shortness of breath could theoretically give this appearance and follow-up is recommended. (No convincing evidence of small bowel obstruction, although developing small bowel obstruction could theoretically give this appearance and follow-up is recommended.)
OB ULTRASOUND
DISCUSSION: There is an intrauterine gestation with a large yolk sac. However, the crown-rump length measures 7 mm and this corresponds to an estimated gestational age of about 6 weeks 4 days. However, there is no detectable cardiac activity. The amniotic fluid volume is probably normal of ra fetus of this age.( The amniotic fluid volume is probably normal for a fetus of this age. ) The placenta is closed. (The cervix is closed.)
EXAM OF LEFT FOREARM
FINDINGS: No fracture. There is prominence of the anterior fat patient which suggests effusion. (There is prominence of the anterior fat pad which suggests effusion) No other findings.
MRI LUMBAR SPINE WITHOUT CONTRAST
Tip desiccation of L4-5. (Disk desiccation of L4-5.)
TWO-VIEW ABDOMEN
FINDINGS: Findings of right chest, cardiac size is normal, no infiltrates or effusion. (FINDINGS: Upright chest, cardiac size is normal, no infiltrates or effusion.
TWO-VIEW CHEST
Stable right breast opacity, likely represents
fibrosis.( Stable right basilar opacity, likely represents
fibrosis.)
AP CHEST
Picture of congestive heart failure/volume
overload not significantly changed from
exam 4-hours earlier.( Features of congestive heart failure/volume
overload not significantly changed from
exam 4-hours earlier.)
RIGHT SHOULDER
FINDINGS: The patient has history of a right humeral fracture, plus surgical fixation noted.( The patient has history of a right humeral fracture, postsurgical fixation noted. ) Alignment is intact.
IMPRESSION
1. Postsurgical change involving the right
proximal femur.( Postsurgical change involving the right
proximal humeral.) Alignment is anatomic.
OB SONOGRAM
FINDINGS: Transabdominal and transvaginal evaluation of the pelvis was performed. An intrauterine collection and yoke sac is identified. (An intrauterine collection and yolk sac is identified. )
LEFT HIP
FINDINGS/IMPRESSION: Two-view left hip demonstrate a fracture of the neck of the left humerus in varus angulation.( Two-view left hip demonstrate a fracture of the neck of the left femur with varus angulation.) No additional fractures identified.
THREE-VIEW ABDOMEN
In this since, bowel gas pattern slightly improved since the 14th, but otherwise there has been no significant change. (In this sense, bowel gas pattern slightly improved since the 14th, but otherwise there has been no significant change. )
NUCLEAR MEDICINE CHOLESCINTIGRAM WITH GALLBLADDER EJECTION FRACTION
.After initial accumulation of tracer within the gallbladder, the patient was given solid bolus intravenous injection of CCK and additional anterior sequential imaging was obtained.( After initial accumulation of tracer within the gallbladder, the patient was given slow bolus intravenous injection of CCK and additional anterior sequential imaging was obtained. )
MRI BRAIN BEFORE AND AFTER IV CONTRAST -
There is confluent periventricular signal abnormality in the lungs bilaterally consistent with chronic small-vessel ischemic change.( There is confluent periventricular signal abnormality in the pons bilaterally consistent with chronic small-vessel ischemic change.) Probable remote lacunar infarcts noted in the left posterior frontal subcortical white matter.
THREE-VIEW ABDOMEN -
There is gas within the large and small-bowel. No distension. There is a round calcification in the pelvis which probably represents calcification in the wall of a cyst. There are no suspicious calcifications. No pathologic skin or nipple alterations(this sentence does not belong in this report). Mild hypertrophic change in the lumbar spine.
TWO-VIEW CHEST
REPORT: Bones free of consolidative infiltrate.( Lungs free of consolidative infiltrate.) No pneumothorax or pleural effusion identified.
LUMBAR SPINE SERIES
REPORT: There is very mild levocurvature of the cervicalium spine. (There is very mild levocurvature of the thoracolumbar spine.)
THREE-VIEW ABDOMEN
No evidence of bowel destruction. (No evidence of bowel obstruction.)
CERVICAL SPINE SERIES
FINDINGS: There is a fracture of the CT vertebral body inferior to the junction of the dens with the body.( There is a fracture of the C2 vertebral body inferior to the junction of the dens with the body.)There is retrolisthesis of the dens in relation to the CT vertebral body. (There is retrolisthesis of the dens in relation to the C2 vertebral body. )
How errors are counted
Unfortunately, there isn't a universal way of counting errors to quote a per cent accuracy. Basically, where I work, 98% accuracy would mean there were 2 noncritical word error in 100 lines (not characters).
When you hear quotes of alleged 95% accuracy in speech recognition, it probably means 5 errors in 100 characters, not lines.
Again, with offshore companies claiming 98% accuracy, who knows how they are counting?
But you are right, we all make errors, and I have seen stupid ones in my own reports that I would have felt bad if I hadn't caught them. I am sure doctors sometimes get laughs out of our bloopers the same way we get laughs out of theirs.
Mistakes/errors
I read below about the mistakes and I have to admit, I make mistakes, I am human. My accounts know I am human. I just re-read one of my physicals and I had somehow put "See expensive data base in chart" and it should have been "See extensive ..." it is not often but it does happen. If we were perfect we surely would not be here on earth right now. It is hard for us to see and find our own mistakes. But for those who say that they have 98 or 99% error free, what does that actually mean -- for every 100 words you can have two errors, or what. Never have been able to figure that out. If I do 3000 lines per day, can I have 30 to 60 lines with errors? All I know is that the majority of us do a darn good job and the best we can and those that make continuous errors, just like in any line of work, won't be in it for long but mistakes and errors do happen to all of us. For those that have no compassion for anyone that does make errors, be careful as it is a long way to fall off of the pedestal. My two cents worth go ahead and flame me, I have broad shoulders.
PS --my accounts have been with me for 5 to 15 years and I make over $50K a year but I do make mistakes.
Yes, these are errors she would obviously correct.
These are errors the software makes while you are dictating. Of course she would correct these. I make a lot more errors than that while typing - and of course I backspace and correct. If I only had to do that twice per page that would be very good!
spelling errors
I have spelled so many words wrong and each time I do I fix it with autocorrect. I just figure that I spelled it wrong once, it will happen again. Some words I have spelled wrong so many different ways you would not believe, but each time they are corrected for me---saves lots of time.
spelling errors
My worst one is osteopenis instead of osteopenia. I put that right in my autocorrect.
deducting for errors
A great deal of companies deduct now, and every one I ever worked for did. Let me tell you why we have to do that. It costs a great deal of money to edit/proof reports. If you make 8 cpl and the company only gets 12 cpl gross, that leaves very little. As editors, we spend a lot of time taking the time to explain why something is wrong, give examples, explain what the words mean, send out countless emails asking MTs to be more careful, to spellcheck, to at least do a quick read of their documents before they send and it just doesn't work. The only way we can get their attention is to put something in place that will.
You have got to be kidding. I never saw so many errors with the IRS. A SE does not owe or
pay self employment tax. The employer does. Read the rules on SE and you will understand.
That is exactly why I pointed out her errors . . .
Otherwise I would never have done that.
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