Templates from doctors
Posted By: sammypot on 2007-09-26
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Really need your thoughts. One of my doctors has about 50 templates/shells. When doing combined procedures he will tell me to just combine the 2 or 3 or 4 shells he has for the individual procedures without taking out whatever is redundant or conflicting. I have to do that. Several of these individual op reports are 3 pages long, so can end up with a 6-page final report.
On his follow-up notes, he will use a shell and then say "add this to the physical exam" but he does not say what to take out of the standard note.
Many of his op notes have numerous variables. He oftentimes does not tell me which to use and/or which to delete.
For "risks" he will dictate some and then say "and add whatever Dr. X uses."
I am requesting a meeting with him and with the office administrator, but would like to know what you think and what you would do.
Thank you
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So what if it's with huge templates....
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yes if you are doing Radiology with all templates. sm
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Does this work on all templates....sm
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Are you pulling in templates? If so,
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I do ER and do double that. Lots of templates, etc.
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Why in the world did you give them the templates?
That was pretty ballsy of them to even ask you to do this.
My client loaded my templates into their EMR and are now doing it themselves
I feel for you. My clients had me turn over all my templates/macros and loaded them into their system and are doing it themselves. This was after dishing out thousands and thousands of dollars in equipment and training additional staff. I was making $7,000 a month and now it is $65 a month if I am lucky.
see, there's the difference . . . some of my templates have 50 lines already in them(sm)
that we have to scroll through. The patient demo info is a matter of six lines. The rest is all headings. I don't mind inputting the patient info, it's the scrolling up and down the page and adjusting the pre-filled headers that takes up so much time.
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These contact your auto text entries.
Yes, definitely include your templates in your counts. nm
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aren't constantly switching back and forth. Instant Text will work the same way so you don't have to save half a dozen entries just to get the correct font.
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Anyone else have the problem of the proper headers/templates not coming up and wonder why the proper docs aren't informed and why we have to correct it by clicking and pasting?!
I do not give a lower rate for any templates--I still--sm
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Your other option would be to have his office print the envelope. My ink cartridge runs about 25-30$ depending on where I get them, and can get very expensive depending on the amount you will be printing each week.
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What is your typing speed and do you use a lot of templates or have repetition?
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i just put my templates in autocorrect and name them as like hxmacro, etc. seems easier to me. nm
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Anyone familiar with making MS Word templates?
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This is why you should use templates with default font settings. sm
You create documents from one template that uses Arial and one that uses Times New Roman. When you create an AutoText entry in either one, you can use it in docs created by either template because you used the default font. Your entry will always expand in the font used if you just open Word and manually change the font and start typing because you didn't use the default. Hope that makes sense.
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Should add.....now I need to get other things backed up, i.e., expanders, templates, etc. nm
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normals, templates, shorthand programs, etc
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Make sure you are looking in "All Active Templates."
I work for a company that uses templates and we get paid for them. nm
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Why I had to put templates in AutoText and "Active Words"...sm
I just left a company where I had been for a while using their web-based platform. The platform was called Scribe and was Word based. However when it was linked with IT, it literally took forever for some of the Expanders to print out. I would also get misspelled words like "CCCHIEF COMMMPLAINT." I could honestly type faster than it took to wait on the longer expanders to appear. That's why I resorted to putting them into AutoText. After hours of research, I did finally figure out how to create jump codes in Bayscribe now. I'm really considering storing my actual templates into Active Words though. If I should happen to be put onto another platform, I'll have access to anything I put in Active Words. Universal is the way I would describe it in that it doesn't matter what program you are in, (email, forums, IMs, Word, etc.) it will expand your short-cuts and templates. It doesn't just expand either. I can type in "samp" and press the F8 key and it will pull up a folder that I have in My Documents where I keep any sample reports I need to see. You can also assign trigger words to take you directly to a particular web site. It's amazing! I just wish it hadn't taken me this long to discover it! I'm on a free 60-day trial, but I plan on purchasing it.
Why I had to put templates in AutoText and "Active Words"...sm
I just left a company where I had been for a while using their web-based platform. The platform was called Scribe and was Word based. However when it was linked with IT, it literally took forever for some of the Expanders to print out. I would also get misspelled words like "CCCHIEF COMMMPLAINT." I could honestly type faster than it took to wait on the longer expanders to appear. That's why I resorted to putting them into AutoText. After hours of research, I did finally figure out how to create jump codes in Bayscribe now. I'm really considering storing my actual templates into Active Words though. If I should happen to be put onto another platform, I'll have access to anything I put in Active Words. Universal is the way I would describe it in that it doesn't matter what program you are in, (email, forums, IMs, Word, etc.) it will expand your short-cuts and templates. It doesn't just expand either. I can type in "samp" and press the F8 key and it will pull up a folder that I have in My Documents where I keep any sample reports I need to see. You can also assign trigger words to take you directly to a particular web site. It's amazing! I just wish it hadn't taken me this long to discover it! I'm on a free 60-day trial, but I plan on purchasing it.
Today I got very lucky...made $50 in an hour with OP templates. nm
in the future, there will be no more dictation...only formatted templates...see inside
it is called point-of-service, or something similar - where a doctor sits next to you, and enters all your info into a palm-size computer. No need for dictation, eventually no need for billing. it will all be done at the time of service.
this is the website and below is the person overseeing it's fruition:
http://www.mohca.org/standardsbodies.php3
Claudia Tessier
Executive Director, MoHCA
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