Teach a newbie to fish
Posted By: Let's be better teachers. on 2008-09-08
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I don't think it helps them. I started looking at the Word Help board after I read a post earlier this evening about the low-level questions newbies are wanting answers for. One was something like "vigomatic...this is somewhere on the head." Are you KIDDING??? I couldn't believe it. I think it would serve this person much better to give him/her some ideas on how to find the answer rather than to just give the answer away. Just giving the answer away is not really helping them learn anything. It's just letting them copy your homework.
What's that saying? Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.
In the earlier discussion I mentioned, someone thought posting on the board (in a virtual situation) was the same thing as asking a teacher for an answer in a classroom situation. Well, I think a great teacher in a classroom situation would do the same thing; i.e., point the student toward the dictionary or the encyclopedia or whatever, not just give away the answer.
I really have to wonder how someone can end up as a working transcriber & not know, or at least have been exposed to, the word "zygomatic" at some point. How did this person get a job? Scary, especially considering how protective we are of our field and how much better at it we think we are than anyone else on the planet.
There are no shortcuts. Every great working Transcriptionist has had to look everything up, has had to go through the unbearable period when getting through one report was like swimming through concrete. Are newbies these days under the impression that there is another way? Because there isn't.
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those who can't do....teach
There is a HUGE difference between reading what someone else has already deciphered versus being the one who is deciphering it at 140 words per minute. The bottom line is that we all make mistakes because we are paid on production - not because we are ignorant or guessing or whatever unprofessional nonsense they choose to call it. As for the comment about not spelling physician names correctly (cities, schools, etc.), we do not get paid by the hour to search for these things - QA people do or they are getting paid for lines they do not type to compensate their time. There is no cause for unprofessionalism or personal attacks. I do not appreciate commentary. I don't appreciate remarks about punctuation, grammar etc. particulary when it comes from someone who doesn't understand what an independent clause is, a complete sentence and so on. Passing on their infinite wisdom because it is what they "were taught" isn't valid - back it up and I don't mean with the BOS, which basically boils down to someone else's opinion. I find the QA people contradict themselves left and right, contradict each other, contradict the account manager and most importantly contradict account specifics, and some contradict the doctors themselves. Very few have come across my path that were friendly, helpful or even knowledgeable. They just often have misplaced confidence in "understanding" the word no else can...I find it better to err on the side of caution if it is a word of substance; if it is not, move on. Perhaps, QA should respectfully mentor the newbies, give feedback to MTs who make repeated mistakes and otherwise take a supporting role in helping MTs to produce quality documents, instead of getting into a p1ssing contest.
How do you teach someone s/m
who has been typing since age 16 to now only put 1 space after a period instead of 2? That's going to take a LONG time to break that habit.
some one should teach them grammar
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I teach classes online.
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What was wrong with trying to teach them when they were young?
I learned to dust, wash dishes, clean my room, etc., when I was about 5 years old, and it was part of our routine. Every week our chores would rotate and as we got old, we learned more. Same thing with cooking. You obviously let this go too long but now is the time to change it, not when you have a nervous breakdown.
There are schools that teach you the business in about...
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We teach people how to treat us - I would not put up with this.
It seems this arrangement no longer works with your schedule. If they say they need the work now and you cannot do that any longer then you need to let them know why. Best of luck to you.
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We do let our kids trick or treat, as stated before. However, it is all just for fun (and candy) for them. I think it is all about what you teach your kids. I see what you are saying about Christmas, I actually can't stand it when people celebrate Christmas who don't believe in God and Jesus. But I guess someone could say the same thing about me (for "celebrating"Halloween without "believing" in what it stands for). I think I am confusing myself!!! All I think that matters is what YOU believe and what you are teaching your children.
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teach pronunciation in med school?
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When you teach your child about the Golden
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QA should be used to teach and aid in the process of MT'ing sm
Not to pick apart and make the MT feel inadequate. Does it really matter if there is a comma missing....not really. The report still reads the same and is a technical document.
QA should be friendly and helpful, at least that is how I try to be in my QA position. We are in this together not against each other. We have the same purpose....to make sure that patient has the most accurate record possible. We all should work as a team, in my most humble opinion.
Happy Holidays Everyone!
I teach and I make 20.00 per hour. Not that great
but nothing to sneeze at either. I teach community service classes (medical transcription, anatomy physiology and medical terminology) at a local college.
In our Sunday School class, now we teach!nm
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I would think the school could fire him if he can't effectively teach- sm
and the kids take advantage, etc. It is for his own good as well as everyone else that he can hear. They make hearing aids so small now, vanity is a big price to pay for not being able to hear. I would think though that the school would have good cause to can him though IF he does not try to work to the best of his ability and if hearing aids help him to work better than he needs to do it, no one is going to make fun of him for wearing them (he's a big boy anyway I'm sure he could take what the kids can dish out), I would think he'd have more trouble from the kids without them. Good luck in making him see sense.
I get the no deodorant part - but what did his mother teach him?? (sm)
May be an old wives' tale, but I've always heard that if you never start wearing deodorant, you'll never need it.
FINALLY got it - Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks! THANKS!!
I DO call you a crook. Do you teach your kids
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teach and guide, start my own school? sm
I guess then they should take the Word Board off if teaching and guiding is a "no no?" Difference between teaching and just telling somebody something they can look up for themselves.
Yeah I am into books! Not too slow if you know what you are doing! Still do 250-300 lph with accuracy which is more than I can say for your post.
I teach literacy classes. Do it. You'll be glad you did.
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No, what's sent work overseas is cheap schools that don't teach SM
properly, churning out hoards of MTs who will undercut the good ones and then turn out terrible work.
It's real. 100%. I used to teach this so email me with any questions. I will give you both the sm
good and the bad about the business. It's all completely real and you can do it from home.
Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it?? (sm)
PRINCIPAL DIAGNOSIS(ES): Left food wet gangrene, status post above-knee amputation on.
Actual copy and paste..... I have no words for this at all.
Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it??
Maybe some few isolated case...
Partially true, but you're not going to learn what they don't teach you ...
a cheap, crappy school does not teach you all the things you need to learn. And you don't know what you don't know until you try to start working and can't pass any employment tests.
its a tool like macros, you have to teach it to understand you and edit at first the words it does
What I understand is, it helps out if you have body parts that are giving out, but it will not, say.. double your production.
You teach your 3 y/o daughter abdominal anatomy on the chart in the doc's ofc while waiting...nm
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I am well aware of that - just angry that parents teach their kids to cheat! nm
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Call a local school or program and ask. I was asked if I wanted to teach when I
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UNBELIEVABLE!!! I am speechless. I literally have no words! A $5000 trip to China to teach
them how to steal our jobs?
To SAD NEWBIE
i glanced at the main responses to your post, not all of them. But i disagree to an extent with what you've been told. I have 30 yr experience, for however much weight you want to ascribe to that.
You've heard that practice makes perfect. That is not really true. Practicing things CORRECTLY "makes perfect". You can do something over and over and over, but if it's done wrong, you are not improving your game.
Depending on how much the paycheck is an issue, you may wish to find another job before quitting this one. But the longer you do things wrong, the more disservice you are doing to yourself. It's also hard to break established habits.
This is all said assuming you are sure you are being steered in the wrong direction, ie, these directions go against good MT training and/or against the BOS in important ways.
I have no doubt that some companies hire poor or inexperienced QA personnel, contrary to another posters comment.
My suggestion is to look for another job. It may take a little time and be a little frustrating, but what you gain by starting off with good QA and building a good foundation, cannot be found in the situation you describe. Part of the good foundation is on-the-job experience.
Believe in yourself, make sure your premise is correct, and then do what is right for the long-term. e/m me if you wish.
Sad newbie
I totally agree. I've been doing this for 20 years.
I once had a QA person reconstruct a sentence so that it read 'index' instead of indices.
At the hospital I started at, I worked nights. The day girls left all the ESL dictators for me. I sat there, by myself, and cried. I didn't realize it at the time, but they did me a huge favor.
Two years later, I was working at a different hospital, transcribing x-ray for a an ESL radiologist. He came in to tell me he was leaving and that he would call me in a couple hours in case I had any questions. When he left, a girl from medical records approached me and asked who he was and what language he was speaking!
FYI: Throughout my career, I have had the pleasure of interacting with physicians one on one. Their biggest complaint is transcriptionists who don't give them what they say. Of course, I always chuckled to myself because they probably weren't aware that I changed their grammar or reconstructed their sentences to read better! Some of them want what they want and they don't care what the AAMT says.
Hang in there, love. Do look for another job and keep looking until you find a place that recognizes your potential and will help you. Best of luck to you!
You must be a newbie
They've been doing it for years and most people who have been in this business for a while are aware of that fact. Neither MQ nor Spheris care about American MTs. They are money-hungry corporate giants with only one thing on the agenda....$$$ keep all the money for the management who know nothing about transcription, let the people who actually DO the work and earn the money, work in the sweat shops for peanuts. These big corporations suck! They suck the life, ambition and money right out of you! I have been around a long time and worked for both at one time....much to my dismay....They are both traitors to the American MT.
Newbie
I am a newbie and I make .05 cents a line. Not proud of it, but I am in a training program. It only averages to be about $150/week.
Welcome Newbie...
Every once in a while we get somebody on here who is a troll. Just comes on and makes inflammatory remarks to get trouble brewing. She is equally nasty to everyone. You can see that a good many of us are quiet upset by her behavior. Do not let her frighten you away from this site. We really do give each other a lot of encouragement when needed and are respectful of each other for the most part. Please don't let this one person make you think this is how we all are. She will settle down soon and you will get to "talk" to some really nice folks. This too shall pass. Welcome to the site. It's nice to have fresh ideas.
when i was a newbie...
i had the hardest time and it wasnt that my (1) trainer didnt give me feedback, but it was that every other month, she changed the way she corrected. hey, im still with the company. now i also work for another company part time and they have so many mentors/editors and they are all different. so here i go again. i really suck in op reports and just when i was about to give up, my part time job decided to move me over to other worktypes but ops. i get them every now and then and its okay. point is, a lot of things can happen to overwhelm you especially as a newbie. we're still going through it. you want it that bad, you hang on.
not a newbie thank you
It is not rigors, it is boogers...as in "green boogers..."
And no, not a newbie by far...10+ years!
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Just said possible not for newbie
Re-read my post. Said it is possible. Also said that I am older and have older docs. Have also done EMR. There is a need -- just need to find your niche. As I deposit my checks I will remember "It is possible" though not everyone believes.
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