Smart Type, versus InstanText and ShortHand, etc.
Posted By: Lyndia on 2007-11-01
In Reply to: What percentage productivity gain do you get with InstanText? - samsa
I have used all of these. I hated ShortHand. Shortcut was not much of a short cut. Smart Type allowed me to type the most in the shortest length of time, end of the story. HOWEVER, Smart Type will limit your career since you can't use it in Windows and all these strange platforms that are out there.
InstanText versus Smart Type with the same library...only very slightly less production and I am not proficient with IT at all, not yet. I almost like IT better than ST because the order of expansions is static. ST for Word will rearrange it all for you each and every time you open it. I liked the DOS program a lot better and I can never have that back. As I am learning IT I am again becoming familiar with my shortcuts. I had gotten "sloppy" about typing my actual abbreviations because ST will let you type a couple of letters and you see the word in the line, space bar and it drops in. I am working more than one job so I have enough work and I use ST for one and IT for the other. The more I use IT the faster I am getting in both IT and ST. I am thinking that once I have adjusted the IT to the best possible fit for my needs I'll switch completely to IT.
Ladies, it is not really about the expander, it is about the library/glossary. If you only have a few hundred entries you are working way too hard. You need thousands of entries to maximize your efforts (I have about 22,000 of them). This is one of those times when it is different strokes for different folks.
There are many libraries/glossaries out there, some you can put into more than one program, some are program specific. Some are free and some you have to pay for (I give mine away). Get a good one, learn to use it, "think" in it and stick with it. That is how about any of them will pay off.
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Instant Text versus Smart Type
Which one is considered the best and has anybody out there used both? Which one is easiest to learn.
If Smart Type is the same as Shorthand, I think it is, there should.....
not be a problem using it with any program, it works outside programs, meaning it should not interfere. I have used ShortHand for years and it has never interfered with any and I mean any program I have ever used. Hope this helps.
Smart Type
You are better off just using one Expander at a time. There are things that ST will do that IT will not and vise versa. It is a matter of figuring out what is best for your needs.
You are welcome to email me and I can answer more specific questions for you.
Smart Type with
MedRite-XL ... what would the benefits of using Smart Type rather than the MedRite expander? Need to to anything I can to get faster.
I never used Smart Type but IT is at the bottom sm
It takes up about the bottom third of my screen. You can change the size, but I have it set to give me about twelve lines because I have a lot of templates that start by the doc's name, so I can have twelve templates that start the same - Smithcons, Smithdch, SmithHandP - and need to be able to scroll and pick the one I want. It may be that it can be positioned in another place, but this is how I started using it and have never checked for something different.
It took me a couple of weeks to get real comfortable with watching the bottom of the screen, but once you get doing it, it becomes a rhythm. I am so used to it that I am forever sending emails to my sister with my unexpanded expansions. Like another poster said, success relies on "thinking" your Expander and constantly building it in ways that make sense to you.
I have a massive glossary - 16869 words, 57341 phrases. Some of it is glossaries that came with it, some of it is glossaries I downloaded (I don't remember where, it was years ago) and some of it is things I have added over the years - including full templates for every doc I can. Some of it is from compilations - you can take a bunch of reports and have it analyze them for commonly occurring phrases and it then creates contiuations - like if you do "the patient was" then it will suggest "prepped and draped" "discharged to home" "given a prescription for" "alert and oriented" and you just scroll to the right one and plop it in.
I know a lot of it goes unused and some of it is duplicate, but I haven't taken the time to go clean it out. It is a constantly shifting, evolving process and I think that is what makes it so productive for me. Granted, I have never used anything else other than Auto Correct, so there may be better out there, but this works great for me.
I use Smart Type with Extext and sm
I just love it. VERY productive from the first day with Extext. It is a breeze to learn and I find I make very good lines.
SmartType vs Smart Type Assistant
Are these one and the same or different? Does Smart-Type work in Dictaphone Extext platform?
Thanks in advance for any help from anyone.
Yes, but can you convert a Smart Type glossary?
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Any Smart Type users up? I have a problem sm
I had my computer crash this week. I was installing everything over again, but I can't find my Stedman's Smart Type patch and I NEED IT so I can get back to work. Anybody have it who would be willing to send it to my email?
I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Smart Type or Instant Text for Psych?
Hi all,
I type mostly psych evaluations, but I do type some clinic notes. I've been using AutoCorrect in Word, and I have been advised to invest in a good Expander to increase productivity. I can't decide between smart type or instant text? Which is better and why?
I loved 5.1 with Smart Type and miss it, but I make more now sm
I don't think it is the platform (Extext) or the work (now acute, but 5.1 time was with clinic), I think it is me being better able to do the job and a more steady flow of work.
Just 1 more tip for shorthand. Macros versus expanders.
Terminology is so important here. A macro is a function usually designed in the word processing program (Word, Word Perfect, etc.) and unless using the old DOS system, is usually used for making shortcuts for commands. It can be used for documents, but is a little cumbersome to do it.
Expanders are just that. They convert a series of Keystrokes into whatever has been defined for those keystrokes. It can be a word, phrase, sentence, even a whole document. But sometimes it can be a little slow if it is a long entry.
The easiest and fastest way I have found to insert my "normals" or "canned dictations", even those I made myself in either Word or Word Perfect is to use an import function. It is much easier to revise the normal, too, and easier to copy.
In Word, establish the file location where documents will be stored. I usually set mine to the name of the account I am working on (and change that data in the settings on Word - options/ file locations - when I change accounts.) I store all my normals, whether created by the hospital or by me, in that file. (By the way, I use a different shorthand dictionary for each account by using links.) I give the document a logical name, and then create an import link in Shorthand.
So, my account is Onion Hospital. My file location is set to C:onion. My document is a physical by Dr. Celery, which I named as celerypx. My Shorthand dictionary is onionhosp.
My command to retrieve this is:
{@KEYDOWN Alt}il{@PAUSE}{@KEYUP Alt}celerypx.doc{@KEY Enter}
When Dr. Celery dictates his hp, I get to the physical and type celerypx and the document is imported instantly.
This is even more helpful with op reports, where you have rather routine dictations for things like cataracts, foot surgeries, etc., and need to change from left or right or bilateral.
It is easier to copy the "normal" document and create one for each instance - left, right, or bilateral, that it is to pull up another command to search and replace the right, left, or bilateral, and change the verb tenses if it is bilateral.
So, Dr. Corn does a lot of cataract extractions. I have
corncatrt.doc
corncatlt.doc
corncatbil.doc (never heard of bilateral cataracts, but just an example).
My command in shorthand reflects each one.
{@KEYDOWN Alt}il{@PAUSE}{@KEYUP Alt}corncatrt.doc{@KEY Enter}
(It is also easier to see if I do have a canned report for a doctor in shorthand this way. I just pull up shorthand (Ctrl F10) and type corn in the screen. It will show me all the entries I have for Dr. Corn.
Shorthand versus Instant Text?
Pros/cons? Any info on either would be great. Also, if anyone could elaborate on how much they increased their lines using programs such as these. Thank you!
It may your experience versus the type
of jobs you are applying for. Do you have acute care with all specialities or just clinic.
IC versus employee, accounts, transcription type, platform,
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Shorthand users: Is there a way to type a word, use a slash and then type another word..sm
immediately following the slash and have it expand. For example if I needed to transcribe mass/sebaceous cyst, is there a way to use my expanded sebaceous cyst without having to back space after I type the slash mark? TIA
Shorthand ? When I type the word I the
first letter in the next word is capped. There is no period so don't know why it caps. Anyone know how to fix it. I'm new to ShortHand and I really HATE it. My company offers a short class in it, but they want me to have more experience with it before I take the class.
I think Speed type is the same as Shorthand, if so......
I have to use this formula for each heading. Example:
This is your text: {@KEY ctrl+b}CHEST{@KEY ctrl+b} the keyword is chestbx. Then it types out bolded.
What I do is save this formula for the next one, say chief complaint (you can always pull up an already done bolded text, like chestbx, my personal use, and copy it if you are typing along and want to put another one in) .
{@KEY ctrl+b}CHEST{@KEY ctrl+b} take out chest and put CHIEF COMPLAINT, then save. I use the as the keyword chestbx, the b is for bold and the x is just for protection.
if you need to bold and underline:
{@KEY ctrl+b}{@KEY ctrl+u}CHIEF COMPLAINT{@KEY ctrl+b}{@KEY ctrl+u} you have to COPY this, put it in text to type like this and save. Your keyword (as I said, mine is chestbx for just bold and I use chestbux, bold for bold, u for underline and x).
then when I type it out with the ccbx it types CHIEF COMPLAINT bolded or bolded and underlined.
Hope this helps.
Shorthand types 62%, I type 38%. nm
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aneurysm... love shorthand - just type anu and there it is...(NM)
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for Shorthand use a semi-colon with yo... ;yo so when you type 50;yo it will become
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Paste this into your Shorthand "text to type" box
x{@KEY Shift+Ctrl+-}ray
This code will give you a nonbreaking hyphen. You can give it whatever keyword you want (I just use xr).
You can copy and paste the code between the {} into any shortcut where you want a nonbreaking hyphen. HTH! :)
Is there a Shorthand for dummies type of book?
I have ShortHand 10.0 through my company. I'm reading the instruction file on the computer and it makes no sense at all to me and I find reading it on the computer is hard because I can't see the full page. My company will not allow me to install a printer and I guess I could transfer the file to another computer using my flash drive, but it is 136 pages and I really would rather buy a book if there is such a thing.
I've spent about 2 hours browing Productivity Talk and there wasn't much information that was helpful and no mention of a book.
It is an older DOS-type environment - works well with Shorthand. sm
Lots of menus, especially in radiology, but ShortHand helps you get through them very quickly is you write macros to just stop where you need to.
It can be very productive with good line counts if you are paid by the line.
Personally, I loved it, but that was because I did very well with our incentive program on it.
Where can I get the Instantext
no message
Need some InstanText help, please sm
I am trying to figure out how to use the singles glossary. The one I have is full of stuff with several words for each single letter of the alphabet. Delete all of this? Make up a new singles.glo? I am merely wanting to change i to I and use the letter j for pain and p for patient. Not have a complete glossary by any means.
Also, despite the fact that I have the "cap the first letter of each sentence" box checked, it never does this for me. Do a need a glossary running for this?
Right now, I am using only the glossary I converted from SmartType. I am not sure how to handle the singles or how to get the silly thing to cap for me.
My software is Bayscribe, ExText and InScribe (Emdat) and it does this no cap thing with all of them. I need it to cap for me because these 3 programs do not support the automatic cap for the first letter of a sentence. I am also spoiled because Word will do this most of the time for me (there are glitches, but you know 90% of the time is still most of it).
Please feel free to use my email. If it is easier over the phone, I'll pay for a call, your choice.
InstanText question
Since you have used both Smartype and InstaText, I have a question for you. Does InstaText come with something similar to the SmarType bar that is directly under where you are typing? That is one thing that I would miss. I have tried other Expanders and just can't get the hand of looking at the bottom of my screen. TIA!
What percentage productivity gain do you get with InstanText?
Am thinking of switching. I currently get 400% productivity with SH8 (it types 3 characters for every 1 I type). Can anyone out there get similar figures with InstanText?
65 character line versus gross lines versus pay by word
I am checking into other options for transcription. Can anyone tell me how to compare all of these types of lines & also payment per word? I know companies use different scales, so I wondered how they compare. I have been paid on a 65 character line with spaces, but I may be making a change in the future - don't want to get burned.
Thank you in advance!
Question versus gross lines versus 65-character lines....
I have always charged or been paid by 65 or 60 character lines or per letter or space typed, but have never been paid or charged per gross line.
What is the advantage of this? If I were to charge 11 cents per 65-character line including spaces, what does this figure out to for an average line rate and how do you do this calculation?
I'm wondering if it is financially beneficial for me to bill by gross line or to keep it the way I have it. I do know some accounts will only pay per 65-character line, as this was the deal my first own account I recently acquired. They were adamant on a 65-character line, but didn't specify with or without spaces and I personally would never not charge for spaces.
Thanks for explaining this. I appreciate it and hope everyone has a speedy day.
SpeedType and Shorthand are the exact same program. Shorthand is lots cheaper and also has a trial.
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{@KEY BkSp}-pack-per-year is for Shorthand. Using the semicolon works with both Shorthand and
;yo = -year-old
;py= -pack-year
etc...
Shorthand and SpeedType are exact same program. Shorthand will cost you lots less.
you can import your autocorrect into Shorthand.
I took shorthand too. But it sure comes in helpful for my expanders. I view words in shorthand for
i did use shorthand once in a job but i was so nervous the "boss" took pity and dictated the report on dictaphone.
If it is Shorthand, save the SPF file to a disk, then if you buy Shorthand yourself....
you can just drop the SPF file into it. That is not dishonest since you are the one who put the macros in. I am sure is it is another Expander there is a way to save the macro file and then drop it in the expander you buy on your own.
don't type double spaces. Type single. Then no one will be cheated.
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I can type with wine, can't type with coffee, though...too jittery.
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That is, type the code above before and after what you want bolded in the text-to-type box. nm
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No need to be smart with him. He's got my
respect for having earned his degree, whether or not he's working in that field and for whatever reason.
Not because they are smart...because they
IQ was never the issue!
If they are smart and get out ;)
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We are just so smart... sm
and great at what we do that we need a challenge once in a while. No, switching professions is not the answer if your desire is to stay at home. I have found that helping each other through these message boards has been quite invigorating, and to know that I am not alone in my endeavors is quite reassuring, I must say!
Smart Gal!
Yes, this is the only job I believe where the salary goes down in time instead of up. You are smart to find another career. I have been in this line of work over 20 years and only wish I had made another move early on. Good luck to you.
You are one smart person,
this, Soft Script would go out of business!!! THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
Smart Young Man
Your son sounds like a very smart young man. Not many kids these days truly care about their education. They look at high school as a party/social time, and dont look into the future what so ever, and said thing is a lot of our children are not getting the guidance from home either.
My son loves to learn and loves to be challenged and with him being home schooled we are able to do so.
And one other positive note on home schooling college intrance exams have shown that home schooled kids are just as smart if not smarter than those who go to public or private schools. The one on one they get is a big big factor in that.
Best of Luck!!!!!!!
work smart - -
You must be an IC. Yes?? Is that where "it's" at?
Monkey's are too smart for the job! LOL - nm
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That's a smart post.
I like how you think. Very good.
info on Smart Med
Their pay is pretty good. Bennies pretty good. Platform not so good. Tech support leaves much to be desired.
There just might be, but rather than be smart alec
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Transcriptionists are smart!
I had a doctor say to his "residents" that they should do transcription because I was answering all of the questions they could not, just because I've transcribed for so many years! That was kind of a nice feeling, if I do say so myself! So... maybe we could all be doctors some day!
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