Shock is abusing whether you intend it or not
Posted By: Scribbles on 2007-11-20
In Reply to: You know NOTHING about me or my dogs. - I have NEVER and will NEVER abuse my animals.
and as to the better MANNERS challenge, what does that have to do with anything? You can have a well-mannered dog *without* painfully shocking it into submission.
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Responsible? No. Want/intend to? ABSOLUTELY
JMHO
abusing FMLA
FMLA can definitely be abused - you want a day off but don't want to be docked for it - tell your doctor you need 3 days off instead of the one day you are at the doctor, he says okay, and therefore the 3 days count as one occurrence even though you are out for 3 days. I have a friend that does it all the time - we want to go out of town, she goes to the doctor for a headache or something silly but tells him she needs 3 days off. That is not fair to other people in the office who are having to cover the work on a consistent basis for the one person who is abusing it!
Um, if he were all that religious, he wouldn't be abusing you sm
so NO, switching religions isn't going to stop abuse.
And what do you BELIEVE religiously? IMO, religion isn't meant to be handed down like the family china. Religion is a way of life and a system of belief and worship. I don't understand when somebody says they'd change just like that, as if it were akin to changing jobs or changing the model of car you drive.
Tax refund is NOT abusing welfare. If you
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Thing with this case was he was beating her and abusing her all along.
They had a stormy "relationship" and there was collaborating evidence to this effect. There was motive. You really don't have that in Aruba case.
Several have accused this poster of abusing her dogs.
I wouldn't take it personal. I just started reading this thread and this poster has been slammed from the beginning. I think I too would be a tad defensive at this point.
Shock
is more like it. U can definitely tell who the "favorite" is. Just makes me SICK, (excuse me while I vomit). Okay, better now. Sure hope for a new job soon. Have sent out plenty of resumes, anything has got to be better than this.
Yeh, I was in shock, how could they?
I guess this is the last season? What an awful way to go out. blah! 
This was a shock to me.....
My DH works in public education and some stupid kids have gotten hold of his cell phone number and have made prank calls over the past few months. They've blocked their number so we can't trace it. The cell phone company can see the number but won't divulge it due to privacy rights. Recently they've gotten our home phone number and have called a couple times. Nothing threatening, just stupid kid prank call stuff. Our home phone company doesn't record incoming calls, so no luck there either. Last night I got a very WEIRD phone call late at night which was a text relay call from a computer, much like the TTY calls that the deaf make. The relay operator just reads what it typed. This call was vulgar and sexual. We just hung up. After a little research I find out that these relay calls are not recorded in any fashion, so you can not find out who made them. The laws TOTALLY protect the privacy of the caller. Even the police cannot trace them. Can you believe that these operators have to relay ANYTHING under the umbrella of privacy, even death threats, not to mention sexual stuff. I am in shock. From what a read, it would take an act of congress to stop this. It just seems like the criminal has all the protections and the victim has nothing. Upside down world. Have you ever heard of these relay calls? I had not.
Yep, a big shock . . .
Should we take bets? Is he dead? I think not.
Wow!! I'm in shock...
I transcribed a Hospice note earlier today. The patient is a 99-year-old woman with end-stage coronary artery disease. She lives in adult foster care. The caregivers at the adult foster care have a problem with Hospice for some reason and are threatening to raise this woman's rent by $1000.00 per month if she goes on Hospice. UNREAL!!
Anyway, Hospice will contact the proper law enforcement agency if this happens as it is discrimination...but I just couldn't believe what I was hearing when I transcribed it.
Also in shock....sm
I thought it would be Chris as well, especially since he always seemed to have pretty good performances and reviews by the judges. He is definitely the best singer.
shock value? nn
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It is not a shock that they want their
employees to work their scheduled hours.
That was a shock until I listened
to a video by MSN. Rumor has it that the show was fixed and Chris was going to win it - according to the judges, especially Simon. In order to prove the rumor was wrong - bye-bye Chris. Check on the video, it makes you wonder. Catherine should have been voted off.
using shock collar
Be careful using that shock collar as it is negative reinforcement. Dogs bark for a reason, learn to read their barks, could be warning of an intruder nearby, or something like a critter approaching their territory. Get books on clicker use & treats.....they can learn words like "quiet", "settle". Takes some time to train but worth it in long run. I have 3 German Shepherds 2 outdoors in kennel, always keep 1 inside....wonderful deterrent. They only bark when something is going on.
Test the shock on yourself first - here's why
My friend put a shock collar on her dog without testing it - and the dog surely was quiet -- WHILE he was strangling to death on a trapped lead.
Frankly, using a shock collar is cruel and selfish - but if you must inflict pain to control your animals (versus just TRAINING them to be quiet!) at least test the shock on yourself to be sure its not stronger than you intend.
Here's one way to train a dog to be quiet - as told to me by a professional dog trainer: When my dogs were in their crate for the night - they would whine/bark for my attention. This trainer had me run out to the crate and bang THE CRATE and yell 'quiet' at the crate - not the dog.
I asked why does this work?
Answer: Would YOU want to invite (with barking) that crazy person back to your crate? Dogs don't like this type of noise - and they learn to associate barking with someone banging on their crate.
I had to do it just twice in one night- and after that just the command "QUIET" worked.
OMG! I was in shock for about 10 minutes first time I saw that!
Weird, but funny
Sometimes shock collars are what works.
If you aren't shocking your dog for the fun of it, you aren't abusing them. Would you rather the dog have to get its voice box removed? I've seen it for chronic barkers whose owners are cited for noice complaints when nothing else has worked.
You CAN NOT defend your use of the shock collar
THAT's why you may choose not to respond again.
Your "defense" above is stunning. No doubt you love your dog and take good care of him/her. But you ARE still using pain to control your pet when there ARE OTHER METHODS that don't involve pain.
Dismiss our points all you want - at the end of the day you chose to take the easy way out with regard to solving the barking problem.
WE who don't use pain to teach make YOU sick? Give me a royal break.
I posted a simple way to teach your dog not to bark - did you even bother to read it?
not a shock - they were bought or joined up with Healthscribe
who has a huge office in India and does not make it a secret that they outsource. Healthscribe also got into a bit of trouble a couple of years ago for "altering" lines on US transcriptionists;
Shock collars are cruel on animals.
You can teach dogs not to bark without using shock treatments.
I dont use shock collars but do use a citronella collar
I have a big dog and know that people use what they know will work. Personally I have had some well meaning yet not very knowledgeable person stop me as I walk my very large dog and rip me a new SS-hole for using a prong collar. Note prong collars are very humane when used correctly.
Personally I would not use a shock collar but I have not done any homework on them either. I would be afraid of one of my children getting a shock or something like that however I am sure you have done your homework. BUT I would like to share what I have found that works. My dog wears a Citronella collar and it works wonderfully and with no danger to anyone else or himself. I have attached a link with a write up on them as well as a site that has them on sale if you are interested.
article about
http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/96/6.6.96/barking.html
where to buy
http://www.worldpetstore.com/abcitbarconc.html
Again not trying to say your choice is wrong just offering another option you might not have considered. Hope you and yours have a wonderful thanksgiving.
I heartily agree with the other poster. You have the shock of your life coming SM
anyway, why involve children in it? 
Honestly, good luck to you. But you can't take care of your kids and be a good transcriptionist, let alone make any money, not at first.
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