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Sharing with older versions of Word.

Posted By: mtathome on 2007-11-03
In Reply to: Word 2007 - Carol

There are some problems with sharing files with older versions of Word. Although there are ways to get around it, it sounds as if it might be a bit annoying. I am thinking about upgrading, and this came up in my research.


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I have older versions saved.

If this poster (or anyone else) needs an earlier version, I have setup files for both 4.15 and 4.02 available. Just shoot off an email.


A lesson I learned a long time ago--always have a backup plan.Whenever I download a new program and after setting it up on my computer, I save the original set-up file in a folder called, amazingly enough, Downloads. Then, when a newer version is released, I also save it (usually with the version number as part of the name) in the same folder. That way, if anything goes wrong with the update, I have the old setup files to fall back on.


if they're legit, why are older versions still for sale (sm)
If you go to the real Stedman's website, you'll see that even older versions are still being sold - they're not being given away by Stedman's.

At the very least these are bootleg copies that you're not supposed to have unless you paid for them and that means they're not legit in any way.
MS Word versions
Well found out that with the update, it DOES work, instead of doing "typical install' you can do a custom install and tell the update to keep the original version of Word, which it does and will also import your Stedman's Quick Look, etc.
Even different versions of Word count the same, so it's not that either. nm
xx
Two versions of Word on the same computer will only work
correctly if the oldest version is installed *first*.
There are updated macros in all versions of Word
except 2007. The macro for 2000 is called macros9.dot and can be downloaded from the Microsoft site. The AutoCorrect Utility in 2002 & 2003 is in the support.dot template that is included with Word. You can go to this site to get the macro for 2007:

http://jay-freedman.info/

There are updated macros in all versions of Word
except 2007. The macro for 2000 is called macros9.dot and can be downloaded from the Microsoft site. The AutoCorrect Utility in 2002 & 2003 is in the support.dot template that is included with Word. You can go to this site to get the macro for 2007:

http://jay-freedman.info/

Or you can simply locate your .acl file and back that up. It's easy to find if you add an entry and then do a search for it by the date modified. Just make sure you are searching hidden files and folders.

Depends on the versions of Word and WordPerfect. sm
Some WP versions can read Word .doc files, some don't. Some versions of WP will not accept copy/paste from Word. The advice to save the Word document as an .rtf file may be your only choice.
What version of Word? That can't be set in newer versions. I had to do a macro --sm
I hope this link works for you. It shows how to make the macro. I use alt + semicolon for it because it seemed those would be a convenient shortcut to use. H

Here's the link (you'll probably have to copy and paste it):

http://fitaly.com/board/msword/posts/1629.html


Smartype only works in specific Word versions.
You want an Expander that works in all programs and a lot of platforms, such as Instant Text or Shorthand.
I have an older version of word, so
I type 65- and then use Expander yo for year-old and also have yobf, yowf (black female, white female), etc.
Yes, there are different versions...

The version that I worked on had access to other reports in the system, which was nice.  What I did was type in MS Word then paste into Meditech via Shorthand, just don't tell the company that you're doing that.  Otherwise, if I had to type directly into Meditech, I wouldn't have made any money.  So, like any platform, there are good and bad aspects to it, but it really depends on which version.


Buy the CD versions. My books have been...
...gathering dust ever since I invested in those.
There could be different versions of the same program that are not
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Seems to be the same to me as I've used several versions, too. nm
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Does anyone know if the newer versions of Escription sm
are compatible with Woord 2007?  The requirements I received some time ago stated that Word 2007 was not compatible.  Wondered if they had upgraded yet.  TIA
The same way you copy/paste in all versions.
Ctrl + C to copy, Ctrl + V to paste.
Those versions don't even come close to how IT V Pro works.
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I have a lower versions but I find
that when it stops expanding, somehow (I know I didn't do it) the autoreplace box got unchecked.  When I check it back, it works again.  Hope this helps.
You aren't working in both versions.
That's why Word is working okay for you. If you want to work in both versions then the oldest one has to be installed first so the registry will know how to handle both.
Does Flashtype work in all Meditech versions?
nm
The home/student versions are not licensed to be used for
commercial purposes, i.e., in a work environment. There is no difference whatsoever in the programs. Word 2007 can be saved down to earlier versions so, yes, you can get a job using that version if you are not working in a Word-based platform that requires a specific version.

The Microsoft site has many free tutorials that you should look into.

No, but with an expander you can just set your expansions to the approved versions for that account.
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See link inside for versions of Office that are supported on Vista
.
nothing is free! There are 3 versions of varying cost, depending on your level of need.
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Not only are you older (sm)
but you're wiser too! And, yes, you are hopelessly out of it. These poor kids are racking up so much debt with this silliness! Of course, the limited selection of appropriate clothing doesn't help either. I'd love nothing more than to go into the girls' section and find a pair of shorts that have more than two inches of fabric in the crotch! But that is another subject.....
since I am 18 (much older now)....sm

Sounds like you need to find a good one, #1, and #2, one who really specializes in the cervical spine (mine does - he does it all, but he really specialiizes in the head and neck). 


Hope you feel better very soon!!! 


Older seems better to me
I've edited tons of MTs and I feel the older ones are usually wayyyy better!! Grammer, punctuation, medical terminology, reliability, the whole thing!
I got $1.00 says I'm older than you LOL
but I don't trust the corporate news primarily because their MAIN function is to frighten, titillate, and distract.

If you want to get a handle on all that fear, do more research on just how much and how often your government is lying to you with regard to foreign policy (and domestic as well).

9/11 was preventable - but your government would rather use the fear generated from it to SCARE people into submission than wage any proper investigation. If anyone thinks the official story is the WHOLE story, they must be smoking crack.

I am *rarely* scared, but I spend a lot of time being upset at the corruption in our government - and how easily good people believe just about any story it chooses to tell (via the corporate media)...

:)
No not really. I look older but not fatter.

How old is John Travolta anyway.  He was so cute in Grease too.  Loved his dancing and now I just wonder if he has the same moves since he gained weight.  He didn't look all that bloated in Pulp Fiction either.  It's just lately he has looked too heavy for his frame.   


And what do you consider an older woman?

I can assure you that I'm not an older woman.  Thirty is not old.  I still get carded buying alcohol.  I've never bleached my naturally blonde hair either.  The clothes aren't skimpy.  I have full coverage with nothing hanging out.  I certainly don't shop in the plus or women sized departments either.  It's just a change from slob mode, which is the point I was trying to make.  Women will feel and look younger by taking a few moments to care about their appearance.  Try some trendier clothes, a new hairstyle, a touch of makeup.  Besides, if I was a fat, ugly, old lady as you're implying, troll, hubby would tell me.  He's the one who didn't like my "comfortable" work clothes to begin with.


I have an older model sm
Can't use it while I'm typing. If I crank the massage action up so that my back feels good, then there is too much vibration and I literally cannot focus on the monitor. I am not sure if the newer models are like this or not.
BTW, just FYI, my kids are a tad older...sm

than your older children.....25 and 23....didn't want you to think I'm a real old biddie....*lol*


Hope you resolve things....sounds like a family therapy would help solve because if you don't resolve....these buildups you get....will continue until you die.  Best get into some therapy - it works WONDERS if one applies it!  *S*


Best of luck!! 


I WAS only joking, I'm a yr older than U..sm

Sorry if I offended you, I was joking because I'm older and I do read many blogger sites of much older, more journalistic type writers, and famous people who are also bloggers.


Again, sorry for any offense taken, none was meant! 


well I'm older than y'all and I can tell you....sm

I got less than a decade on you but it starts happening around 40+ (*winks at the 39 y/o poster) and it happens.  At 40, I started writing down lists, whereas prior I never needed a list (to go shopping, let's say).  About halfway through my 40s, it was "where are my keys and/or my eyeglasses" things.  I talked to a bunch of women who confirmed this (older than me).  Now, I do the room - "why did I just walk in here?" - thing. 


I try not to worry about it.  I had a dad (who died nearly 2 years ago at a very old age and more than twice my age *S*) whose short-term memory was not great from his 60s on into his 90s, but his long-term memory was so EXCELLENT that he could tell you a story about a horse, his neighborhood, and a situation that he experienced at 5 years old (an emotional trauma) with such clarity and lucency, you could picture the entire situation yourself.  That, in and of itself, amazed many!


So, don't beat yourselves up about this stuff.  There are lots of books out about this very subject.  When you think about these things, well....what's the alternative?  (I'm thinking some extra serotonin *LOL*) - but really, these things will occur and I'm not choosing the alternative, that's a given (i.e., death).  *LOL*  So, I'll live with these challenging things happening and try not to kick myself every time I mess up. 


I will tell you I am much better about my keys and eyeglasses today because I made places for them to sit (if I remember to not toss them wherever *LOL*)


You are all not alone, that's a given too


I have noticed this myself as well, although I am a little older than you (49). SM
My short term memory has been declining. Just nice to know somewhat else has noticed this too. Not all in my head.
In your older computer you probably already
put a lot of stuff into the dictionary/spellchecker, which unless you have a backup of the directory you have to start all over again.  
When you get older, more anxiety?
I am in the 60s now so don't know about it getting worse. Am looking forward to a high school reunion this weekend. I only have anxiety if I have to speak in front of a lot of people or even stand on a stage in front of people. I love my home and so love being able to work from home but as far as anxiety escalating in later years, ?? same as before for me.
It is actually not an older program. One of our sm
hospitals just got it and it is the newest version. It is one of the ones that has been around the longest, but they are constantly changing and improving it. I have a few MTs that hate it, a few that love it and a few that could care less either way. Like anything else, it is a matter of personal preference.
Older generation?
I am a little bit younger than the flower children, and I know a lot of our politicians and CEO's are "old". I agree with you about where this country is headed. I also agree that it is time for a change. However, I am not sure you can count on the younger generation to bring this about. My experience with most young adults around now is that they are more self-centered than any generation before. There are more young adults still mooching off their parents than ever in history. Also many MTSOs in business today are younger people who see the global economy as an easy way to get rich without putting in the time to build wealth through hard work. There is a lot more that can be said about that.
Unless you have an older computer all you need to do
is stick the flash drive in a USB port. I go into Windows Explorer and click and drag my file into whatever drive the flash drive is. Very easy to do. I would not want to use a flash drive either unless the teacher is going to download it immediately and give it back.
We have 3 receivers. Two are older ones

where you pretty much have to point the remote directly at the box.  The newer one where you can be anywhere in the room is DRD435RH.  This is about 4 years old, so I would think the DVR should be able to do the same thing.


We have favorites, but at least 2 other options, maybe 3, where you can block certain channels so it is like having favorites.  I like the DIY type channels and DH does not.  It has my channels blocked as he is a surfer and blocking mine eliminates having to go through all mine.  When I want to watch I switch to all channels.


If you go to Direct's website they might have the info more detailed. 


Which one did you get...the older one or the newer one?
The ergopro is the newer one and has a USB connection.  The older one has a PS/2 connection.  The older one is far better in my opinion.  Lot of good reviews on the older Belkin board on both Amazon and Newegg.  Excellent key touch but it is a loud keyboard just to warn you.  I loved it and still continue to use it but I found that it was harder for VR because it is a big keyboard so I using a smaller split board now.  The only disadvantage to the Belkin ergoboard older model is the key markings wear off quite quickly.
it was supposed to be the older one, SM

but the seller sent me a plain, flat, dirty keyboard!  I was sooo mad.  Fortunately I complained enough and sent him copies of receipts from Amazon showing it was supposed to be the Belkin ergo (he insisted he clearly stated what he was sending) that he has finally agreed to send my money back.


So, as soon as he refunds my money (I got an e-mail from Amazon saying I should be getting it soon), I will look for the older one that you are talking about.


Thanks for sharing your experiences! :)


Chickadee


Use older version
Thanks Renee.  I have already uninstalled and reinstalled so many different versions and none of them work.  I tried to convert the .dss file using that convert program, I forget what it is called, it's free from NCH, but it wouldn't convert it.  But I will try it again and let you know what happens.  Thanks again for your ideas. 
Like everything else, older ones work the best
I do have one very old keyboard that I have on hand -- just in case but the only thing I don't like is it is not wireless and it still has all the keys on it.  I think it is from my very first computer.  Justs like us "old broads" the don't make them like they used to and the newer ones just don't last. 
I usually feel bad for the older

I also feel bad when I see an older person eating alone at a restaurant.  When I say older, I mean 75+.  I feel like inviting them to sit with us, but that would be too weird. 


I also feel bad for people with no insurance or people that will not fill scripts because of the cost. 


This is the only profession that the older
you get the less money you make.  I hate it too and looking to get out!!