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• What do you make of the new terrorism in London? - Just curious
  • Post political discussion on the Politics boards. - Administrator nm
  • London - me
  • What do you make.........????? - For Pete's sake!
    • My feelings are they are probably... - as shocked as we were on 9-11
  • Uh, yea? Do people really think it's going to go away? I'm telling you... - See msg
    • sure are safer..nah - gct
      • You are certifiable... Bush's war on terror? Excuse me, but THEY attacked us, or did you forget? - Planned all through the 90s, not under Bush. NM
        • you are the certifiable one - de
          • I'm no sheep, heck, I'm not even religious. But I have grasped the concept of what a lie is. - You obviously havn't arrived there yet. nm
            • Lies - de
              • My conversation with you is over. You sound worse than a pack of 6th grade girls. - Have a nice day in spite of your hateful heart. N
              • If you can't think of anything intelligent to say - me again
        • selective forgetting - observer
      • Isn't Clinton one who cut our - military funds? nm
        • Clinton - Sisu Girl
          • That's not what I have heard... - mystery deaths surrounding Clintons
        • Yes, and also what did HE do about the growing threat of islamofascism? - Absolutely nothing, that's what. NM
          • He did nothing, nada, zilch, zero - me again
            • Bush did nothing - de
              • Which way do you want it. You complain that he did nothing and you complain when he does something. - LOL, I'm telling ya, this is a riot! nm
              • And I bet you miss Dan Rather - me again
                • sure do love rather - de
                  • military deserter? - me again
                    • nah - gct
              • and we all know what Clinton was busy doing! - get over yourself
                • Love Clinton, hate Bush - de
                  • I guess you believe everything your read - in newspapers too!
                  • Oh, Lord - me again
    • and before you start singing praises to shrub - yep
      • That's just YOUR opinion, and you are a prime example of lack of patience. You want instant results - instead of being patient for results. YEP!
        • Opinion of Millions of Americans - de
          • but yet... he got re-elected... - Millions of Americans voted
            • he didn't get reelected...he stole it! - yep
              • Sigh... Talk about a tired topic. Even the die hards have let that one go. - YOU need to get over it.
                • you need... - eyetype
            • usually - ag
        • nothing to do with patience or impatience... - yep
          • Have you talked to soldiers who have been in Iraq? - MT
            • why are we in Iraq?? - de
              • Oh please - me again
                • Silly?? - de
                  • Please read the post at the top of page by - me again
              • You seem to forget the HUNDREDS of thousands Saddam killed, execution style. - Talk about selective memory. nm
                • Saddam... - eyetype
                • Hundreds of thousands - de
                  • Can someone PLEASE call the white coats with the net for this crack pot? - It's just getting humorous now.
                    • She's not mental, it's just that she's right about many things people can't face up to... - Sorry but it's true!
                    • if you can't debate, destroy! bush cronies do the same! - yep
            • Pretty much say the same thing - Yes, I have too
              • Why - de
          • Well, I'm glad YOU are not the president... - SM
            • Clue to you - de
              • it's the old thing, say it long enough, loud enough, - yep
            • Very well said - Hear, hear
              • Terrorists?? Where were they?? - gct
                • Oh really? That's why it's a fact that Zarqawi was treated in Baghdad for injuries. - Oh, okay. nm
              • Yes, can you hear what the outcry would have been pre 9/11 if he had tried to do ANYTHING proactive - to go after terrorists? No Msg
            • no, you might've liked my presidency! - yep
              • Bravo!! - gct
                • i'm sorry, but it's going to take more than - yep
                  • Hey, bombing other countries defeated Hitler. - nm
                    • You're joking, right? That was WWII, read your history books. - Quite different...nm
              • Oh, okay.... You would have..... - See Msg
                • I think she would not have been financing a war in Iraq over oil... - Resigned
                  • shrub says he doesn't know what his legacy will be... - yep
                  • Where is all this oil that we went to war for? - Really ?
                  • Yawn, same old whine.... - SM
          • The murder happened here! We cannot forget that. Remember it in what you just said - Right
            • I must say.... - eyetype
              • I totally agree with your observations and post...sm - No beating around the bush here!
                • people seem to have forgotten that the shrub family - yep
            • do you understand what you read? - yep
              • So, you would have felt safer... - SM
                • so you think that shrub has the power to - yep
              • They understand what they read and they aren't going to.... - Resigned
                • No, what incites terrorists is the likes of Durbin and all the naysayers who give them hope that we - are weak and doubting of ourselves. NM
                  • dear one, shrub gave the terrorists all they ever needed.. - yep
                • so right! It is so pitiful what excuses - yep
                • Oops, meant they DON'T understand what they read....nm - Resigned
    • Terrorism is not going away - You are right
      • To me what is scary is the way some people think. They imagine it won't happen - again. nm
  • Did you think it would go away? Terrorism is here to - just passing by
    • I was thinking next year on 06/06/06 they are going to attack us again. - But maybe before that?
      • Not to split hairs.... - slightly off topic
        • Another definition of satanic is a behavior that is evil , which I think may have been the original - memt
          • That is exactly what I meant. Evil for the sake of evil, not for the sake of satan - Thanks!
            • I do agree with that... - OT poster
              • Just did a search and that is how extreme Islamics view us here in US. - Check it out!

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I am totally confused as to what section of the religion board to post on.  There is nothing for general Christianity or perhaps Quaker pursuasion, etc.

I also have no idea what I am, liberal or conservative or what.  I liked it better when you could have a real discussion.  We exchanged ideas.  I know sometimes they got out of hand, but I don't like any of these boards now.  They are just plain too confusing now. 

Please dispute this.  I welcome it.  It seems like Bush's "lies" had lots of company, although those quoted below have washed their hands of their own comments.  How convenient.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998


"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.




"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.




"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998.




"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998




"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.




"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.




"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Joe Lieberman (D-CT), John McCain (Rino-AZ) and others, Dec. 5, 2001




"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.




"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.




"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.




"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.




"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.




"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I b elieve that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.




"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.




"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.




"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.




"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.




"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his contin ued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

There was a lot of that before I became an MT.  Maybe I was just lucky, after I went into MT we were on a great incentive plan and were highly competitive, I don't think we had time to gossip and backstab. I know what you mean though, I have had those jobs.

I feel bad that you lost your account, but you don't need to be taking your anger out on other people and start calling them Republicans and blaming her for your belief of the mistreatment of MTs.  This was a simple challenge on how to make more money and spend your time wisely.

That would be true most especially here .. this is not a place for that sort of heavy discussion.  I prefer face to face.  And, just to be clear, I too am of the mind that we certainly need to be vigilant, and I was merely responding to the fact that I found it ironic that this particular day was chosen .. I will be watching the Boston Pops in 10 minutes and thanking God for having the freedoms I enjoy.  I did not need to be chided as we all have opinions.

Wouldn't that have been a great one to transcribe?  Not because of who it is, but just due to the type of the surgery he had--open brain surgery with intermittent wakeful testing.  I've been an MT for about 27 years, majority in acute care (now clinic--boring), and I absolutely love doing OPs.  I really enjoy doing long, complicated, interesting operative reports like I'm sure this one was. 

Gruesome?  Maybe , but well wishes to the senator in any case.