Poll regarding listening ahead.......sm
Posted By: LMT on 2008-10-10
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I am just curious how many of you listen ahead and listen word for word or character by character? I learned word for word in my training and I do think that helps my speed but was just wondering how everyone else does it. I still do word for word but I have one dictator whom no matter how far ahead I listen, they still will change an entire sentence! 
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Listening ahead
I am just wondering if you listen ahead regardless of the length of the dictation?
I do need help increasing productivity and appreciate all suggestions. It just seems wasteful to listen for 5 minutes without doing any work. (Maybe not......others have more experience.) Feedback?
As always my thanks
On listening ahead
Listening ahead doesn't mean to listen without typing or to listen to the whole dictation first.
Older MTs transcribe this way because they had to use older transcribers which typically did not have that little backup or "instant rewind" feature. They didn't stop on a dime, either, but slowed to a stop. During the stop and start, you could lose an entire word or phrase.
MTs thus learned to stop in the pauses between sentences. They listened to the first part of the sentence, began typing after the first couple of words, then paused only to get PARTIALLY caught up. They listened ahead and typed AT THE SAME TIME.
This is a lot more efficient than the hear-a-word/type-a-word method.
It also helps to type slowly enough that you do not make any typos at all. That way, you do not have to stop and correct them. That alone saves huge amounts of time.
Slowing down and listening ahead
These are two different things. You have to practice them separately, then eventually merge them.
As for slowing down, that should be the easiest. It means to key at a speed slow enough that you make no typos. None whatsoever--not even one.
Just practice typing one sentence until you can key it correctly without a single error. Go on to a paragraph. You'll settle on a speed that works for you.
You may feel that you are typing s l o o o o w l y, and this may frustrate you, but bear with it for a bit. Practice this every day, slowly and smoothly, giving each letter the same amount of time. No machine-gun rat-a-tat-tat. No speeding up and slowing down.
Your goal is to maintain the same boring, monotonous rate on and on and on. It shouldn't be tiring at all. You'll find it easy and restful, but you'll make better progress because you won't have to stop to fix anything.
To learn to listen ahead, you'll need to pretend that you're working on a typewriter. If you have an actual typewriter, use that. Otherwise, just assume that you CANNOT correct anything. What you type has to stay on the page forever, so it had better be right the first time.
Take a practice report. Listen to the first entire sentence without typing anything. Hold it in your head. Now type it from memory. Do the whole report that way.
You'll have trouble with whole sentences at first. You might have to do just phrases, then longer phrases, then work up to sentences.
Practice that perhaps an hour a day for a week or so. At some point, the process may click for you and you'll figure out the point behind it.
Once you can do whole sentences, you can start typing while listening. Listen to the first sentence, but this time start typing it when you have heard half or all of it. You can pause the tape momentarily at the end of the sentence if you need to, but you should be able to type continuously.
Listen listen listen . . . listentype listentype listentype type type type listentype listentype listentype type type type, etc.
It takes practice, but it's worth it.
If I boil mine ahead of time, I go ahead and peel off the shell after they have (sm)
been sitting in a pan of cold water for about 30 minutes.
listening while listening?
You can listen to music while listening to dictation simulatniously? Or am I missing something? I used to listen to music at my old data entry job, but I didn't have to hear anything back then.
Great to see somebody else listening to Alice Cooper, though, great taste :D.
OMG! Just finished listening to a doc with the -
next thing to laryngitis! What a treat that was!
Listening to audio again.
You should hear prompts if the C-phone is programmed to allow you the option. "Press
3 to listen...punch in the job number followed by the pound sign." The audio should come back. You need to know what number they used
to program the function and the job number.
and what number they used.
I guess you were not truly listening
he/she said she was agnostic. why can't you respect that instead of pressuring, i.e., "you might like it" -- give me a break! I, too, moved to the Bible Belt recently and can't stand the holier-than-thou J-freaks. Bunch of weirdos, IMHO
Sorry, but allegations are not enough for me to just listening to them.
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sorry, that is just stop listening to them
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Depends on how you are listening.
I know when I had EMON and Editscript, I couldn't hear crap in Editscript but when I listed in EMON it was clear as a bell.
listening outloud
yes, I got used to doing that more than a year or two ago and that's the only way I listen now. To me, it's now hard to understand thru the headphones. My speakers are Altec Lansing Series 100 - not expensive - I believe they came with the computer in fact.
listening without earphones
I didn't think anybody else did this! Four years ago I had a benign parotid tumor removed and with my head wrapped up, I couldn't use earphones and was forced to listen without them. Then when I was all healed and put the earphones back in, what a surprise -- I couldn't hear well at all and have not used them since (I have Logitech speakers).
People here are NOT listening
If you work for a company that does not have trillion of employees, your VR will be good if most (all) do the same corrections. What you 2 have above is the worst of the worst. It will not get any better. When others post about how they love VR, do you believe them or why do you think they like so much? It is because they don’t spent most of the day doing all those corrections and their work is going smoothly.
I actually liked it better the other way, but I hope others find it useful. Thanks for listening to
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Try picturing Baryshnikov while listening. nm
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I get it too, also from headphones while listening to music. (s/m)
I much prefer the old, in-your-ear style of headphones, like a stethoscope. Just be careful not to stick 'em too far in, or that can hurt, too. But the cartilage definitely gets sore if something (even a phone) rests against it too long.
What a joke! Not only is that insulting, listening to that would put me right to
SLEEP!
I tried your suggestion with listening carefully
I'm not sure what I'm listening for, but I didn't notice any difference.
I think the shaded out options must have to do with the company preferences. They've probably deselected the options, which I don't understand.
Thanks for trying.
Are you in the south listening to southerns or
somewhere else. I am smack dab in the middle of the south and I hear none of what I would consider southern drawls. Mine are really fast and lots of ESLs.
You will lose this fight. No company is listening
to whiney MTs in their quest for the bottom line profits. There are too many other people who will happy to work for less just for the opportunity to work at home and then again there are those offshore who will work for even less for the opportunity to simply work, any where, any time, any place.
And as far as battles go, who you going after and how do you prove you were wronged.
Then factor in the MTs who are getting the good reports. Are they going to fight the cherry-picking unethical battle with you.
Sorry it's a lost cause and it is the nature of the business. Maybe 10 years ago you might have had a chance. Nevermore. That is reality.
Same here - will never stop listening. I do feel the crunch though
when I am backed up. I just work a little extra in the evening or on the weekend to make up for it.
When kids need or want to talk, it is best to stop everything and listen. They become more secure and confident in themselves, more productive and successful in society. I always stop whatever I am doing when my kids stand there wanting to talk to me. Mine are 17 and 14. As soon as they get in from school, in my office they come.
I am so thankful I work at home and am here for them after school. I would not trade that for anything in the world!
Listening to a cell phone conversation
My doc left his recorder on again. LOL
Who Cares? I'm listening to their music, not moving in with him.
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I've been listening to the same song and dance for years.
Things only seem to be getting worse.
Friend suggested I type while listening to the news.
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Decent QA will not give a quick read without listening
You are not doing your job if that is what you are doing.
I guess the old breed of getting what the dictator says is way out of style. Companies don't care and therefore need to be put out of business.
I get paid by the hour and I listen 100% to the all ESLs that I do. I also provide feedback to the MT and mentor them. Quick read is not QA. It is nothing. If you do not hear what the dictator says, you have no idea what could have been left out.
Just went out and bout The Band greatest hits and listening right now to the Weight.
Don't do anything, just tell him to go ahead and do what he
has to do. If he's not for real, the threat has been not worked. If he is for real, he MUST have documentation to prove his case, or even then it's no use taking it to court. He will file in small claims probably, if less than $5000. He must prove his case, and you don't have to do anything, bottom line.
Don't get too ahead of yourself..
You may certainly have a valid argument, but don't base it on the "fact" that rad reports are all paid by report. I have been doing rad for over 12 years now, and have yet to be paid by report. Most are by the line, and any MTSO I have worked for, rad is one of the lowest line rates compared to other work type accounts. Yes, there are companies that pay by the report, but, I surely wouldn't go so far as saying that is the "norm".
Then go ahead. Not me.
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Go ahead
post it! You will feel so much better and be able to continue knowing you got your two cents in. Sometimes it makes you wonder about American standards for the practice of medicine, does it not? Doesn't it make sense that in America doctors should be able to communicate properly and have a handle on the language? Accents are not what I am talking about either. I am talking about vocabulary and grammar that can possibly cause a change outcome. This is a very serious business, medicine. Those who dictate should be qualified to dictate. Amen.
So how would you know ahead of time if
problem with drinking? Don't mean to get off the subject but just wondering.
Ah, go ahead...don't be ashamed...
No one will laugh. And, most likely no one will slam you for it either. There are only a few really nasty, jealous people here. 
Go ahead and invest......SM please
Go ahead and pay for a decent program so you'll be set up. In all honesty (my opinion) you do not get the same kind of quality sound with these freebies as you do with the others. If you intend to do this job, at least get proper equipment.
IMHO
that should say *ahead of time*
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Go ahead, tell us, what is abortion then?
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go ahead rant!
One of my dictators smacks gum in my ear constantly and it drives me crazy because it is rude!!
thinking ahead
Yes, you are so right, be cordial and that's it. Her problems are not mine and she is very manipulative. My concern is mainly how this will affect my friendship with Patty who happens to be a very close friend of mine. Also, thinking ahead to the future, H's daughter is getting married. Wait! Before I get into this... H's daughter moved out yesterday. They had a huge fight and H kicked her out of the house. The daughter is now living with the fiance's family!!! I know they will patch it up probably in the near future... so here is my problem. About a month ago, H called me and said she is having a shower for her daughter on July 29 at 1:30 and I should mark the date. I said "I'm busy that day" and I was joking, but I wish I was busy. First of all, I hate showers and I hate Pampered Chef parties which she is also always having...and I never go !!! :)
I don't go to those. Secondly, I want to backpedal from this family as much as possible. H is the type who will never speak to me again if I don't go to the shower. All advice is appreciated. I guess if she isn't talking to me maybe she will not send the invitation... but I can't count on that.
Go ahead, argue with me on how you all think
Lets see the moral ethics flow.
Paying below poverty... minimum wage is POVERTY, yet, below that.. what a joke.
So many drs, so many specialites, can't get ahead!
Ugh, I've been working for a National for about a month now, and they keep throwing new drs and new specialities at me everyday, and it's so frustrating. My line count gets lower it seems, instead of higher. Is this normal?
I've been an MT for 10 years, but worked for a local small company until they went out of business. This national thing is completely new to me, and I'm not liking it so far. Just when I was getting comfortable about 2 weeks ago, they threw new docs and new specialities at me, and I can't seem to keep up. Very frustrating!!
go ahead girl
I know it is very fustrating when you are spending your time which you aren't paid for trying to make sure that the report is right by researching extensively. And some of the dictators are so inconsiderate like when they decide to eat while dictating and talk with the food in their mouth so it makes it hard to make out what they are saying and sometimes they arent eating anything just dont have the courtesy to make the dictation as clear as they can. I have a clinic account where some reports have to be sent back with a blank name for a cc or letter to referrring physician because there are more than one doc. with that same last name in the same city and they think you should know who they are talking about. And sometimes they may both be just general practioners so you have no idea based on their specialty either. We definitely don't get paid enough to do their research. It does make you want to just throw the reports out to get the line counts and leave blanks and let them figure it out.
you go ahead and demand that $75K
That will leave your position open for another person who doesn't think they are the MT queen. That "level of expertise" has been achieved by many hard-working individuals. They are out there with excellent skills and might be happy to take your place. Then you can spend your time pursuing something that will make you happy and allow you to feel fulfilled. I feel sorry for you that you are so bitter about your choice of employment. You still do not need to go out insulting other people and calling someone stupid. You do owe her an apology.
I would think just go ahead and apply.
If you've done acute care, you should be fine with radiology. I've never done pathology, but I would think it would be pretty similar to radiology in that they use certain tests for certain specimens. I think there's a touch of radiology and pathology in acute care reports. I do a lot of clinic and also have worked full-time radiology, and they are seem to intertwine. I would say either let your current employer know you're interested and see what happens. 
I Think I Listen Ahead
I'm old enough that I started transcribing on a typewriter. It was a Selectric, which was state-of-the-art at the time, and was much faster than a machine with a carriage. :)
My stepmother was a court reporter, and I started out transcribing court transcripts. I was thinking just the other day that I can't remember how on earth I managed, what with a baby crawling around while I was typing all day and the fact that errors were a nightmare to fix!
In any event, I had never thought about it until I read this thread, but I guess I listen ahead as I'm typing. I'm not sure what "word-for-word" means, though. Can you explain?
I would go ahead and apply...
If you apply and they pull up your *record* and decide not to hire you, you'll have your answer as to whether that'll affect your ability to get a job. If you get turned down, it's not as if you get put on a list somewhere - this is just a company who will put your file in a drawer somewhere and that's it.
If you do get called back, don't mention it in the interview. That record has been marked as *no conviction* and that's exactly what it means. You don't get treated the same as those *with* convictions.
Also, I had a dispute with a telephone company once and was looking up the situation online and came across several lawyer sites that can answer questions like yours, i.e. whether a record under the first offender act needs to be mentioned on an employment application.
My sister was arrested for shoplifting 30 years ago and she finished nursing school, married a doctor, and with the kids gone now, is back being a scrub nurse, so I don't think you'll have a problem.
Good luck
Way to go!!! Hope I am ahead of you! nm
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Sure, go ahead and apply and
do testing if you can't find an employee position that you like. Don't buy any equipment except a USB pedal though. A pedal would be a good investment. Even if the company is a small one, they may still provide equipment you need, or rent it to you if it is a Lanier or C-phone. A lot of companies have you logging into the hospital's system directly so you may not even need a new version of Word. Be prepared to arrange for unlimited long distance if you don't have it already. It looks like lots of places require that. If you have internet cable that should not be a problem; just get internet phone service also and you will have your unlimited long distance.
Good luck with your search. It's a jungle out there. 
Sure, go ahead and apply and
do testing if you can't find an employee position that you like. Don't buy any equipment except a USB pedal though. A pedal would be a good investment. Even if the company is a small one, they may still provide equipment you need, or rent it to you if it is a Lanier or C-phone. A lot of companies have you logging into the hospital's system directly so you may not even need a new version of Word. Be prepared to arrange for unlimited long distance if you don't have it already. It looks like lots of places require that. If you have internet cable that should not be a problem; just get internet phone service also and you will have your unlimited long distance.
Good luck with your search. It's a jungle out there.
Eh, I am going ahead with the BS degree.
I can always take electives for x-ray tech. This program has a lot of identical courses, so it would not be hard to switch to another discipline like x-ray. X-ray pays less, but either of these careers is more than what we get as MTs these days... and in 18 months from now, hospitals and clinics will still need on site techs like this, unlike transcription which can unfortunately go poof gone any day now. It's going to be hard, but I am going for it...gotta get out of this business I am sad to say of Mting.
Okay, I apologize ahead of time for this
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