Paying a subcontractor
Posted By: Jenifer on 2007-03-07
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I am going to take in a subcontractor in an on-the-job training program. I want to know your input on paying them and paying yourself for the training. I an setting up an on-the-job training program. As an independent contractor, I receive 8 cents/line. I am going to have the subcontractor work with me in my office at my other work station, and I will teach her everything and QA all of her work closely until she is up to speed. I was thinking of paying her 6 cents/line and me 2 cents/line. What is your input on a suitable division of payments?
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Subcontractor
Yes pay her out of your business account. You should provide her with a 1099, can buy them or have the IRS send you some. Also some Quick Books or Turbo Tax help you prepare them. You deduct it as a expense on your schedule C. Since it is an expense deduct you won't have to pay taxes on it. Make sure that she/he realizes that you will be reporting it to the IRS as an expense. Under 600 you don't have to fill out a 1099 but I do. Make sure you have their SSN, etc. to fill it out. Good luck. I just keep everything separate business and personal - makes it easier even though my Quick Books tells me exactly what I have made, etec.
Any more questions let me know. Patti
subcontractor
not to sound dumb, but is this my responsibility? Thanks!
subcontractor
uggh! I have wondered about this myself in the past. this would be the hard part. I guess I would have to talk it over. thank you though for your help.
subcontractor
I think what you are doing is wonderful! More people like you should be so kind as to take a newbie under her wing. If I ever an fortunate enough to have my own FTP server and accounts I want to do the same just because I know from experience how hard it is to be a newbie. Hope it works out for you both.
Subcontractor
Get rid of her - nicely. Just tell her that you MUST meet your deadlines in order to keep your accounts. Your livelihood depends on this. Tell her since she is having some difficulties right now, you cannot send her more work. If you want, tell her to contact you in the future when things settle down for her.
You cannot give her any more chances. What will you tell your clients? "Sorry the work didn't get back, but this MT I really like had a personal crisis and couldn't type last night."
Hire someone less enthusiastic who will do the work on time. I'm not enthusiastic about this job anymore, but I do it because I'm enthusiastic about living indoors and eating every day.
Pay for subcontractor
Well, first let me say sorry you blew TAT, or it was blown for you - however, if a company holds your check because a TAT was blown, even a last check what would you do? Pay her the 100.00.
As for calling your client, why would you give her this information. When i sub out They get the voice file only and a patient list that has been blacked out on the information. And always sign a confidentiality agreement. If she did call - which I doubt, do not try to confirm with them - they may not like the idea you sub'd out, and why bring it up if they do not. Apparently you are still getting their work so they must like something about it.
Lastly - be careful next time. But also keep in mind - if you were not paid you would have a fit - she just took it one step further and has a hissy fit.
I have a subcontractor......
I have had an account for a couple years and just recently hired on a subcontractor. This account pays me 14 cpl and I pay the subcontractor 7 cpl. This is an easy account and all the sub has to do is type what I send them and I do the rest. Granted, I took a 50% cut on the work by hiring a sub, but now I know that even if I'm not working I have 7 cpl coming in. I don't understand why anyone should feel guilty if they are paying their subs a decent amount for what the work requires. Just last pay period she did 1000.00 worth of work (based on my 14 cpl) and I collected 500.00 of that (based on her pay of 7 cpl). As an IC, I just see it as a benefit to me, not sure why anyone would feel guilty.
I am a subcontractor.
I make 12 cpl with one company full-time acute care and 11 cpl part-time in pediatric subspecialties (neurology and oncology mainly) with another company. The FT does offer a daily production bonus.
Subcontractor Pay
Does $2.00/report for MRI, CTs and ultrasound reports sound reasonable for an MT with 20+ years experience? I know some reports can be long, some short. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks
Subcontractor pay
I do some subcontracting for an IC. My checks are usually different from the amount on my invoice by a little. Sometimes a little more and sometimes a little less. Shouldn't my check be the total on my invoice?
It depends....are you an IC or a subcontractor?
10 cpl is not unreasonable as a subcontractor
I have had several subcontracting positions that pay 10 cpl and now working as subcontractor for 11 cpl. You do not have to accept the first thing they offer. Naturally, they are going to offer you a lower rate. If they offer say 9 cpl, then ask for 10 cpl. If they offer 10 cpl then ask for 11 cpl. It has worked for me. Now as an employee with good benefits, I will accept 9 cpl with an incentive plan.
Subcontractor..help with various issues
I need some advice on how to handle having a subcontractor. I have a subcontractor now helping with one of my accounts. My process is that I have a separate checking account and separate savings account for business. All of my checks from work as an IC go into this business checking account. I then transfer to the business savings account a certain percentage for taxes. We'll then transfer most of the remainder to our household checking accounts. That way, I can look at the business checking account and see my deposits and know exactly what my income is. Anyway, now that I have a subcontrator, I don't know exactly how to handle everything. Do I just keep track of what I pay her and then claim it as an expense at the end of the year? Will I have to give her a 1099? I guess I should only hold back for taxes on the percentage of the money I keep now. I'm just confused on the whole process. I could use any advice...or a point in the right direction for where to find information on this. Thanks!
Most hire a subcontractor
I think it it is wise to establish a relationship prior to needing them so they are already familiar with the account(s) and can do it with very little instruction.
Lisa - subcontractor
There have been people here who would like just a little extra. If you get the account and once you are settled, why don't you put your need on the board. You might find some bites. Some people like to do a little extra. Of course if it is something digital you could even go away from your state. Just a thought. I happen to enjoy helping others when on vacation. It has worked for me in the past as well when I needed a vacation . 
Diff between IC & subcontractor
What is the diff between these two? And do most of you have set hours that work as a subcontractor or do you pretty much have flexible hours? Thanks!
I agree, but if I have a subcontractor come
into my home to remodel or something, I certainly can tell them not to come at midnight or early in the morning because that does not work for me. He does not have to abide by that and can turn the job down, but I can certainly suggest it.
Taxes as IC or subcontractor?
Does anyone know about filing taxes as a subcontractor or IC? Do taxes work the same for both? Is it the self employed tax form? Any info is helpful thanks.
When I use a subcontractor, I pay them as soon as their invoice is turned in to me.
I consider it a good business practice to pay the sub as soon as their invoice is submitted. After all, don't you expect the client your contract with to do the same for you. You really should have paid this $100 invoice long before now. You have no recourse and should consider this a lesson learned.
Personally, I don't think you have any business subbing out work if you're no more prepared to pay and, apparently, are careless with the information that your sub receives from you. You could also be considered breeching confidentiality if you're not having the sub sign some sort of understanding regarding the confidential nature of the work you're sending out. 
So you are subcontractor, not contracting with doctor direct.
If that's the case, then you need to ask the MTSO you work for if they can provide schedules for the doctors. They may not have them, either, but they could ask the docs for them. So it was their staff and not the doctor's staff that couldn't verify his schedule? That would be different advice then. Sorry - thought you were contracting directly with the doctor as your client. Sounds like you were hired through an MT service instead.
Maybe they get the work from the doctor that way, but the MTSO should try to organize and work it out with the doctor to see that it's uploaded promptly. Not all offices will cooperate in that respect so it's on the MTSO to remedy that, unfortunately. Some just send when they please without regard to the MTs' schedules, and sometimes you can talk until you're blue in the face but they still do it "their" way, on their terms. The MTSO could hold their ground and request the doc to send on a more regular basis, but it's pretty much out of your hands, I'm afraid.
As an IC, you can say "this is when I'll be available to work," and let the MTSO schedule accordingly. Or you can always find other IC work to supplement so you can at least work while you are waiting, or just find another gig altogether if it gets really bad.
What are you paying your MTs? If you're only paying 7 or 8 cpl
and expecting extremely experienced MTs, forget it. You're not going to get it. If, however, you're willing to pay 9 or more cpl then you will find what you're looking for. There ARE experienced MTs out there who will work their fingers to the bone IF they are compensated well and treated with respect.
2 accts are direct hospital, 1 is a clinic and the 4th is a subcontractor position. nm
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ATT- I was paying $320 for 7000 minutes, I am now paying $175 for 5000 minutes in CA. nm
nm
Why would they be paying for
the loss of lines when the lawsuit is not settled. Plus, I don't think the small amounts will be sufficient to cover the loss of lines.
Duh - I'm paying $2.79 for gas and
my heating and electric bills have NOT gone up in 2 years and my rent hasn't increased $500 in 4 years, in fact hasn't increased at ALL in 4 years, etc.
You're one of THEM, arent' you? One who wants to complain but when someone says do something about you get all defensive. LOL
Chatter away ... not interested. LOL
If you are paying too much for gas
Just copy and paste into your address..........this is really, really cute!
http://toccionline.kizash.com/films/1001/178/index.php
That's the old way of paying....
imo, not good pay unless a 30 minute tape can be done in 1 hour or less.. some of my 30 minute tapes take me 3-4 hours to do because of the dictator.. be careful
Wow, I don't know anyone paying that much!
Sometimes if I get too far behind paying
my internet bill, my IP provider seems to start doing that as if to remind me I better catch up or they'll shut me down. It's irritating, but it does get the job done LOL
I used to do that, but it was not paying off. SM
I haven't had a report returned in years. Believe me, if I got caught with a mistake, I'd be doin' me some heavy proofing too.
who is paying 11 cpl? - nm
nm
Are you paying me?
 Am I on your payroll? Do you pay my mortgage? Do you put food on my table? No you don't. Therefore, don't worry your empty little head about how I spend my time.
Huh? Can you tell us some more about paying
less than 1000 in taxes a year and how that works?
Not in Writing, but they are paying
Spot checks show they are paying me for spaces and for headers.
They probably aren't paying for it anyway---
That's why they charge so much for dues, etc., so the "higher-ups" can attend all these wonderful conventions in expensive places. I dropped them years ago. They don't have a CLUE that we are all scratching just to survive-- not with their "Let them eat cake" mentality! I wish EVERYBODY would drop their memberships and then see how often these idiots go to Hawaii when they all have to get a REAL JOB.
Paying for college for my son..
My son is attending college and I have paid for 2 years through a junior college, but it is now time for him to move to a major university. Because of my salary of just over $40,000 a year, he has never qualified for any type of scholarship, only student loans (which I have paid back). Does anyone know of ANY scholarships, etc. that can be applied for? I know nothing at all about how the system works and feel I have failed in trying to help him (it's all I can do to hold down 2 jobs in order to make the $40,000). We even tried to have him set up on a student work program, but they said you could not do the student work program if you were getting student loans. It was like at every turn, there was something to disqualify him from getting assistance. He carries an 'average' grade point (more interested in social aspects, of course, than his studies). He has never had a counselor at the junior college that helped much. He is interested in sports administration, so the junior college counselor did not know what field to put him in, so she put him in liberal arts, and now we find he needs some other classes instead. I'm searching for any help with limited time to search. He tries, but he does not seem to get anywhere either. ANYTHING ideas would be appreciated, and thanks in advance.
re: paying your FICA,SS etc as SE
I beg to differ with you! Been with MQ for 17 years, they have always paid my federal & SS...they do not deduct any state taxes for SE's, and this is the only one I've ever had to pay.......never been audited about having to pay part of the above and have professional tax folks do mine, again, think you need to check your facts on this one.
anything to keep from paying for a space
That is ridiculous and has to do with money rather than the "correct way" to do things.
I don't see them paying more than 15 an hour, and thats being
Right now I average 20-25 an hour. I'm barely making a living on that. If they switched to hourly, production would fall dramatically, creating backlog and lost accounts because of late work. Not a good idea.
I had a doc tell me the other day that they were paying a service 7 cpl...
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I agree . . . unless they are paying you
Don't do it.
Ask the docs what they are paying now and go from there. nm
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They are getting exactly what they're paying for.
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Is this what you make after paying everyone else? - sm
If so that is fantastic! So much for working so little, how nice is that, granted the buck stops with you and you have to clean up any messes, etc. but for $78K a year I'd be quite happy too.
Yes, if you think the companies are not just out for themselves and will try to get out of paying
nm
MTSO not paying...
My heart truly goes out to you. This is certainly no way to run a business! Myself, I would probably have said something I shouldn't have and not had a job afterwards. I do so hope it gets better for you.
MTSO paying
As MTSO, I have a hefty cash reserve/line of credit attached to my business bank account. My payroll is never late, even if clients are late paying me. If credit line is paid back under 30 days, it is pennies to use. That's just my cost of doing business to ensure my MTs are paid on time. Most MTSOs I know do the same. If this person is filing personal bankruptcy, she probably can't get any credit at all.... and MAY be a red flag as to how she runs her business as well. It looks like you will be at her mercy in the future. I'd say keep looking -- there is a better fit for you out there.
in my opinion, what you are paying for gas alone--sm
not to mention the daycare, would be enough to cover your purchasing your own insurance. PTO is not worth it if you keep running out of work and have to use that to cover it. .09 cpl is not much for a hospital. Personally, I would tell them if they did not send me home, they could kma and I would find another job at home. You would actually be saving money, in my opinion, to go home and work from home...no more daycare and no more gas. How about hubbie's insurance?? There are pitfalls with any job, including the one you already have. You can find one that suits you from home. they are out there, you just have to perservere. good luck to you!! Happy TG.
Are there really ICs that would take an account paying....
On the job board there have been several postings for IC positions paying 8 cents to as low as 6 cents. Are there really MTs that accept this? When they accept this, do they understand the expenses that they will incur? Some say setting your own schedule is worth it but these positions are set schedules. They say they are not but if the work is not done during that time, it goes to someone else. I personally, would not take less than 10 and even that is low.
paying to commute
What is so funny about being paid to go back and forth to work? I worked for a company that paid for my gas mileage AND my car repairs. I drove a VW Rabbit that needed little to no repairs, but still....they paid my mileage and my gas. Leave off with the nastiness. She has a legitimate right to post what she wants as does everybody here.
How about paying on-call!
Speak for yourself. Some people like a steady flow. Not nothing one day, and then work 12 hours straight the next. This is called on-call sweetie!!!!!! Should be paid big bucks for that!!!!! 
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