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One that speaks EBONICS. - nm

Posted By: !!!! on 2007-11-30
In Reply to: What's worse than an ESL cardiologist? - Mt of Oz

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Ebonics
Ebonics was the name for the dialect in the US also known as 'black English' - where that becomes dat, neighborhood becomes da-hood. Grammar rules also get turned on their head. As in: 'We be goin' to da sto... ya want some chickin'?

Now before anybody slams me for explaining this - go look it up yourself. There was a movement about 20 years ago to actually accept Ebonics as an alternative form of English.
Thank you so much 'Explaining Ebonics'!
You strike me as a very nice person.
Yes, DeeAnn answered my question, very clearly, and I thanked her.

About blanks and markers:

If I cannot hear something well, I type 5 underscores, then I send a 'note' to my QA
with _____ 2:30, what is the time marker.
This is no problem, I KNOW this.

My particular question was, how shall I 'mark' it for the QA in case I THINK I heard correctly, but I am not sure!
Shall I put the questionable word berween 2 question marks, like that: ?bezoar? or shall I just put _____ and the time marker?

Did you finally understand what I mean with my question?

Is it a stupid question? Is it possible that the so experienced MTs (???) therefore thought that I might be Indian? And it had right from the beginning nothing to do with my grammar or my syntax?

I think this was what paranoid 'curious' assumed that I just asked a question that was too stupid to be asked by an US MT.


On this board it is always emphasized:
There are no stupid questions.

What hypocrites.
Thank you, Explaining Ebonics, this all
makes sense and is very logical to me.

Isn't this then also the same problem when we correct VR?

Then we first read the word in the downloaded document, then listen to it, then think what it might be.

So we are confronted with 3 versions, sometimes.
We call that ebonics here in Hotlanta.
lol
I am so against ebonics and I live in the south
Here close to Atlanta it is ridiculous to hear all the time. It is so different from what you describe above. I would rather had a very fast, slurring of words physician speaking than to hear a professional using English wrong. I actually was having a very big problem with it before moving from Atlanta and hearing it day in and day out on the news channels. I really had to tune it out, that is how bad it was. I did not allow it spoken in my home, ever and by the way, it was being offered in the lower grades in school. Some blacks, as in my post above, consider speaking without ebonics, speaking white. What a shame!
I was referring to the "anymore", not the ebonics.
nm
Speaks out....
It has to be absolutely awful to have the whole world know what is going on in your personal life. As the poster below said, Jennifer has millions and no children - but I've had some kick-in-the-stomach events in my life and it was bad enough coping with them (I know, we all do - don't flame me). At least I could escape to the mall, a bookstore, some anonymity - but Jennifer had no place to escape to.

I think Brad is a very decent guy but he's probably going through a midlife crisis. I worry more about him getting hurt from whacko Angelina - not only emotionally hurt, but if I were him, I would be worried about catching something. That girl is a skank.
meant to include ebonics is used and accepted
in this town. The schools are 95% segregated in the town. Very old southern roots. They do not care for change. Teaching children to speak properly is considered taking away from their "heritage". Why we moved here? Not really sure. People are very nice though. You are in the minority if you can speak, write, or read properly. Also, it is 100 miles or so SW of Columbus, GA, 30 miles or so NE of Albany
If you've never heard of Ebonics, you can't possibly be in NY
Unless you just landed from another country.

Sorry, but I would assume at the very least (and I mean VERY least) 80% of Americans know what Ebonics is.

The very fact you took 'dat' to be a slam to Indians kinda shows something struck a nerve with you.

If you live in NYC as you claimed earlier, I doubt you've been here long.

Flame away, knock yourself out...You sound LESS American with every post. I fail to see how someone inquiring if you were in India would result in such pure unadulterated outrage unless a nerve had been struck.

I'm outta this thread and off to work.


I want to thank 'Explaiing Ebonics' and 'Happy MTRobin'
for their comments.
These 2 are the only ones who showed to have a brain when answerin g my 1st question.
I am not Indian, not black, I live in New York. I am white and I have no contact with people who talk Ebonics.

To all the others who gave 'paranoid', actually 'stupid' comments to my question that opened this thread, I PITY you and get some education or visit a psychiatrist.

Definitely the most deranged poster is 'NOT PARANOID/NOT WORRIED.

and that speaks volumes (nm)
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and he still speaks to people like the..nm
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just because someone else *speaks* the words--sm
does not *make them his.* just as qoutes from others are in books, and the writer copywrites those. The doctor did not tell her to make the macros to make her job easier. She had to take it upon herself to do the work. He did not type them and put in the codes, she did. He did not provide her with anything to make her job easier. It was her effort, thought processing, and physical demands that did that for her. She should not have to *hand them over* to anyone. That is HER work. Not his. Does that help you understand it a bit better?
Your post speaks for most, if not all of us! - sm
I would love to see a compilation of hundreds posts like this from other MTs sent to Congress, so they can see for themselves what offshoring is doing to this country. At this rate, we'll be 'third world' before we know it.
The 'Holy One' speaks........

*Ebonics* refers to the street slang, etc. (often heard in -sm
rap music, etc. Lots of white people, Hispanics, and even some Asians (all gangsta' wannabes) speak Ebonics as well. It's practically a second language in itself, so referring Ebonics-speakers to ESL isn't off the mark at all.
You get what you pay for. Your attitude speaks volumes. nm
nm
Jennifer Aniston finally speaks out

She says she's hurt and sad over the breakup.  She loves Brad and always will because he's a "good" man.  She's very hurt about his spread in Vanity Fair with Angelina as a "married couple" with children.  She says it was obvious from the beginning of filming Mr and Mrs Smith that he was attracted to Angelina and started drifting away from her.  Now look at him, he's chasing after Angelina like a fool, while she adopts baby after baby, when he had a perfectly good woman!  The whole thing is sad!


Your post should be entitled "Unrealistic MT speaks."

I've been in this business long enough to know that number one, it is darn hard to get any clinic to sign a contract with an MT, and two, I'd put my head on the block and say that 99.99% of them would never sign a contract stating that if they break the contract, they would  continue to pay the MT x-amount per month, and if their high-powered attorney allowed them to do such an air head thing, they'd find a legal loop hole via to get out of it soooooo quick.


The MT who originated her post was obvlously feeling very down, as you would be if it happened to you, so I must say it was very BIG of you to kick her while she was in that position, and I have to wonder, who's more professional - you or the clinic who dumped her with no notice after years of good service.


May the karma bug bite you big time in the butt, and it will, too.


Have a nice day - Julie


Are you kidding - at least Clooney speaks properly.
Matt comes across as being very dumb when he speaks and is apparently odd to boot - remember the incidents where he got caught doing something naked extremely high on pot??? And now, no deodorant?!? Please, up your expectations, ladies! He seems to be a total loser. Now, George, hmmmm! I'll take that. LOL!
This really speaks the truth! Loving your post. nm
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2 years experience and you passed the CMT? That speaks volumes about the AAMT... SM

I've been saying it for a while now.  The CMT test is not an assessment of an MT's skills and knowledge medical terminology, pharmacology, anatomy and physiology knowledge you are, but how well you've memorized the BOS.


Well, congrats anyway I guess, for memorizing a bunch of useless rules and regulations that will undoubtedly change in the next five years when a new "updated" version of the BOS is published.


Ebonics: Not a black thing or white thing. (sm)

I don't think there's any cause to get upset or defensive here.  Look it up on line...even colleges are offering courses in Ebonics!  ...well of course they are more sociology-type courses, but still, people are PAYING to learn about the why's and how's of this "other" language.


A quote from one of the sites I found:

"UT-Austin's "Introduction to the Study of African American English," teaches students that the sentence, "Nobody didn't leave" is not "mainstream English with mistakes," but rather a legitimate English dialect. "Ebonics: Myth and Facts" and "African-American English" are both offered at Harvard. Penn and UCLA also promote Ebonics as a legitimate dialect in, "Introduction to African American and Latino English" and "Afro-American Sociolinguistics: Black English," respectively."


Here's the link: http://www.academia.org/campus_reports/2002/september_2002_2.html


 


There is an old adage - "He that writes like he speaks writes badly." nm
Doctors need to learn that they are creating a document that is going to be read by others.

I work for a hospital where the gastroenterologists compete to see who can dictate their endo in the fastest time. They deserve the blanks.
No one speaks shimma shimma, its mumbling, in any language.
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