Oh my Gosh - WEGMANS has cruelty to animals??
Posted By: NYMT on 2005-08-09
In Reply to: To romey and ANIMAL ADVOCATE...see inside please: - MTMT
That is the only place I will do my grocery shopping - I haven't seen the video yet, but please say it isn't soooo. There are only a few Wegmans - Where will I goooooo??!!!?!?
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Hi NYNT - wegmans owns their own chicken farms and this a video from a farm...but
supposedly it is the industry standard on how these animals are treated...you cannot even imagine the cruelty in your imagination.
Wegmans has officially denied it, I believe. I shop there still, but I refuse to buy chicken products/eggs there, and I usually mention it at the checkout whenever they ask if I have found everything...
Obviously, just me not buying those products does not help, but I can live with myself that way...now that I have that knowledge.
Beef, turkey, pork - it is all going on all over the country, wherever you buy it, whoever supplies it to the stores. More and more even the people working at the meat plants say the animals are not even dead when they are cutting them up...it is cheaper not to have to anesthetize them or kill them first.
The animals are filled with chemicals, also, and hormones, etc. Does that have to do with these really tall kids I see lately (smile) just a thought!
cruelty
In the recent PETA video regarding processing for KFC out of the Moorefield, WV plant...my son worked there 3 years ago. Yes it's cruel. The chickens are packed into crates and cannot even move. They will peck the guys who unload them and put them on the conveyor belt, so those guys will kick, stomp, throw them against the wall, etc. Do do go by belt to a large saw and if that doesn't work, there is a guy working there all day with a knife who completes the job. Sometimes if there are too many, they make it to the boiling water alive. It's pretty filthy work, they get chickens who are diseased and those go down a chute for pet food. The workers aren't allowed to wear gloves OR a mask, their feeling is it could contaminate the chickens (??). My son was exposed to campylobacter there and ended up having to have his stomach taken out. Get this, they refused his compensation saying he couldn't prove he got it there, even though they reported it to the health department (by law) and to the CDC. I believe PETA goes overboard at times, but in some cases, the story really needs to get out. There are many videos on their website.
CRUELTY CLARIFICATION
To the multiple posters below, regarding the thread on farm animal cruelty. First of all, I believe you. Second of all, me and many like me don't have access to video and/or cannot watch the video. Yet, we still want some facts. I was not able to pick up fact based on the thread. Here is what I found out -- VERY INFORMATIVE by the way, and I appreciated reading it -- but there were still questions in the air. Can someone please CLARIFY, by way of simply stating the facts, what is going on with each of the following animals, so that we, AS CONSUMERS WHO MOSTLY SHOP AT BIG CITY SUPERMARKETS, can make an INFORMED CHOICE based on these facts:
1. Chickens. Know they live their lives squashed and get heads severed off via rotating razor blades. True, false, anything missing?
2. Veal calves. The cruelest fate of all (besides french geese for fois gras or however you spell it). Tiny crates, water deprivation, light deprivation, no straw, no way to move the extremities. And how are they killed?
3. Regular calves, and cows for meat. How are they killed - really? I think the general public thinks they get a humane bullet in the head. Is this not true?
4. Dairy cows. Their fate? And aren't they treated a little better (fresh air, etc.) for dairy vs meat? Please inform.
5. Pigs. We know that they eat, we know they are dirty, but assume that they, too, get room to roam, and are killed with a bullet BEFORE being cut up. Is this true? If not, how different?
6. Anything else we need to know about?
So very, very much appreciate a WRITTEN answer to those of us who have no access to / cannot go the video route. BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
Beauty Without Cruelty
These products are also not tested on animals and do not use animal products in them. I think a lot of aging has to do with sun exposure. I don't have the around-the-eye wrinkles, but do have forehead lines because I squint.
I do. I still believe it is an unnecessary cruelty.
NM
I'm no PETA supporter. Still know cruelty when I see it, though.
NM
For all the animals out there
Suffering, with this video they showed us what they're going through. I feel it won't be long before this information becomes mainstream and I think the majority of people who see it won't stand for it, people who have more power than us who can take strong action. I'm glad there are so many of us out there who care this much here on this board!
Different for animals?
Is ophthalmology different for animals? How many Veterinary Ophthalmogists are there around? Do dogs wear contacts? Just curious.
heat and animals
Thank you for keeping your animals inside. I do too. I have three dogs, four cats and two birds and they are right by my side. I do take the dogs out in the morning and hose them down, then they come into the house (what a mess..no biggie, I can clean it up, ya know?).
Animals need help in New Orleans
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Anybody want to help the animals in New Orleans, just go to the below link and check out what you can do, many many displaced animals there that need your help.
https://www.bestfriends.org/donate/index.cfm
Leave the animals alone
And what would happen if man wasnt on the earth to keep the population of animals under control? Nature would take care of itself..Man puts its hands into things and screws up time and time again..Leave the animals alone, they will handle the population. There is enough meat in every grocery store..more than enough..leave the living, breathing, beautiful animals alone..They were not put here for us to kill or amuse ourselves with..they are sharing the earth with us.they want to live just like we want to live..Leave the animals alone.
LEAVE THE ANIMALS ALONE
Very well said, abc, I totally agree with you. Leave the animals alone.
NO !! they do NOT test on animals.
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please read if you care about animals....
A friend of mine gave me a video about 4 years ago about factory farming and the fur trade and where our meat supply comes from. Please to to Farm Sanctuary on the web for videos, books, more info. But that video turned me into a vegetarian that moment! I have always loved animals, but some reason never made the connection. They feel pain like we do. They are thinking beings as well and know when they are going to slaughter. Each vegetarian saves 80 ANIMALS A YEAR. It is appalling the way these animals are treated not to mention the chemicals and food they are fattened up with during their short lives... this is going into YOUR food chain. Sorry to get on my soap box... but I feel very passionately about this cause. If you are interested, please research it further. The videos are extremely hard to watch, but that's the point --- it wakes you up! Harm no thing. Thanks for reading. Please don't bother blasting me if you disagree. It is my opinion. It will not change. You do not have to agree.
Shoot, my animals are all cute.
My dog will jump on her hind legs and "box" with you by smacking your hands with her front paws.
My cat likes to go berserk inside cardboard boxes. He also perches on my desk and dips his paws in my betta bowl. Then he climbs all the way up the screen door and yowls if I'm outside. Typical cat behavior, I guess, but this is my first kitty so it's funny. He's a loverboy, too. He crawls up on me, sticks his head under my hair, chews my hair, bites my neck, purrs and goes to sleep.
I cannot use Mary Kay because they test on animals - sm
But I do use Estee Lauder and Oil of Olay. I consulted three dermatologists on getting Botox and they all said no way for me because I have no WRINKLES around my eyes or forehead ... at 39 years of age!
Animals have more rights than babies do!
nm
Feeling a little sad for you "as they are about animals"
Instead of at least quietly agreeing (or disagreeing) that this action was awful you chose to attack the poster. Don't understand why you felt you had to do it. I too am sickened by abortion, child abuse and neglect. I am also saddened that man's best friend could by the thousands be killed like that. I am not saying that it rates up there with abortion in my mind, but gosh, that was an undeniably cruel thing and it certainly causes me to give pause.
Feeling a little sad for you "as they are about animals"
Instead of at least quietly agreeing (or disagreeing) that this action was awful you chose to attack the poster. Don't understand why you felt you had to do it. I too am sickened by abortion, child abuse and neglect. I am also saddened that man's best friend could by the thousands be killed like that. I am not saying that it rates up there with abortion in my mind, but gosh, that was an undeniably cruel thing and it certainly causes me to give pause.
I think keeping animals caged
or "boxed in" and this includes, birds, snakes, turtles, and yes, keeping cats inside a house for their entire life cheats them of being able to live in their natural environment and doing what comes naturally to their species. Their exercise is greatly reduced and so is their instinctive behavior to feed, hunt or whatever it is they do. How would you like to live inside a box for your entire life? Just my opinion, you are entitled to yours.
Yes, they're all indoor animals...sm
The 4 cats they brought when we got married stay downstairs in the basement and my stepdaughter's room down there, and the rest of the animals are upstairs. Needless to say, we'll be looking for a larger house soon!
General liabilty and E&O are two different animals.
I used to sell insurance. General liability protects your companies assets when something you do causes harm to either a person or property. E&O, aka professional liability, aka Errors & Omissions comes into play when you make a mistake and/or omit something and thereby cause financial harm to your client. I can't see the need for an independent MT to carry either of these - unless you're like the one who has the government contracts. You can get a small GL only policy from Hartford for about $400 a year and they are the only ones who will write those. The E&O is closer to the $5k a year range (or more) and there is no need to do that - not when all of our work is sent through the MTSO's QA people. The MTSO holds the burden for that.
anyone have animals cute/quirky habits?
I live next to a manufactured lake, and there are dozens of ducks and birds hanging around there. My dog usually likes to go up to them or chase them. He also loves people, runs up to them too, very friendly and can be generally laid back. Although, when he comes across a stray feather lying on the ground, he will literally approach it like a mouse would a mouse trap, and then jump back about two or three feet, and then veer as far away around it as possible. This has been going on for a couple months, no idea why. Today, I picked up a feather and set him on my lap and brought it close to him and said "its okay" and right when I touched him with it, he squirmed, almost flipped completely in the air, and tore himself loose from his collar and ran far away from me (never does that anytime, sticks to me like glue), so now he walks around the lake like its a mine field, jumps and wimpers even if he touches a feather. The strangest thing in the world to me. 
And where exactly do you think that the meat in the grocery store comes from?? ANIMALS!
nm
One of my daughter's soft stuffed animals....
when she's not looking!! It's a soft little pink elephant, not scratchy at all.
I already do pray. But why not spirits? Animals are more sensitive, you know
nm
Being a mother, I couldn't tolerate animals
walking around infected with rabies that would be a threat to my family, because as much as I love animals, my family is still my priority. On the other hand though, no they shouldn't be clubbed to death and killed even if not infected. This is China though, and they have no respect for most people...much less animals. It's sad, but unfortunately the way it is. :(
God gave us dominion over animals for beginners. sm
Good or bad snake, if it's in my house, it's a goner. If you don't like it, then sue me lady. Your statements are foolish and uneducated. And you're the one who probably believes that snakes have feelings. Give me a break. Good Lord!
just an observation about this "as they are about animals" poster
She uses "thang" and "ya" just like Kikki. Just wondering if she's baaaaack . . .
no, kill animals that are carrying the epidemic
to save the humans. Sorry if you don't agree with that.
Shock collars are cruel on animals.
You can teach dogs not to bark without using shock treatments.
People (& animals, too) will work harder to get
nm
I heard you get lung cancer by eating animals.
nm
See hurricane board for ways to help N.O.area animals. NM
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I don't watch fear factor. They abuse animals. I also have better
stuff to do with my time then watch someone eat pig intestines.
sorry, you are assigning human logic/emotions to animals...
seal mothers do not go nearly insane with fear and pain as they watch their babies being clubbed to death in front of them. - you've got to be kidding. Animals are incapable of the complexities of logic and emotion to get to that conclusion. If you want something to be frantic about, go to Africa and see the abandoned newborn infants piled in chicken wire crates in the hospital. Let's get priorities in order and no, a boy is not a dog or a pig or a rat.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - animals know things people don't.
nm
Why on earth do people let their animals roam free?
Never have understood this!
Agree totally. I'd like to see an end to rodeos, too. So cruel to animals. nm
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Unless she has animals that constantly snag on the carpet or intentionally sm
dig their claws into the carpet, I have to beg to differ with you on the berber carpet. We LOVE ours. Have had it for 7 years with 3 cats, 4 dogs (not all at once) and we don't have any snags! I'm serious. I'm not sure what grade of carpet you are referring to, but we have not had any problems with our Berber. I also think it cleans very well with a steam cleaner once every 6 months or so. Our Berber still looks new with all of these pets we've had.
So, I do recommend Berber, though it is pricey.
There are a lot of other durable things on the market that she can look for and afford but I just had to say something about Berber because we just love ours.
in the old days, most animals raised for consumption at least got a life while they were alive.
not anymore.
Not only are they treated with unbelieveable barbarity, the producers are destroying irreplaceable GOVERNMENT (meaning, it's OURS) owned forests and range for feed - more and more each year...not to mention the absolute filth rampant in the industry - they have them so crowded and unclean that it's a wonder MORE e.coli and other diseases aren't pandemic.
Go visit a slaughter house - any slaughter house. Yep, it's not that hard to give up meat. It is totally unnecessary in anybody's diet.
I have to admit though, when the neighbors are barbecuing a slab of pork, my mouth waters and my brain goes into DESIRE!!!
OH MY GOSH!! sm
Unbelievable! See what I mean about my experience versus your experience? TransTech absolutely has the most knowledgeable and nicest techs I've ever worked with and believe me, I've worked with A LOT.
Gosh, is this about you? nm
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Oh gosh! May I ask.....
how you found that info out? I hit their web site and it made no mention of anything off shore related....... ID like to know how to find that stuff out on my own!
Gosh - thank you all so much! (sm)
I am very grateful to those who took the time to graciously answer my question. I am now armed with information and dangerous! Won't be getting this particular office to jump on board in the near future, though. I just found out that they don't even have access to the internet. Thanks again! Loo
OH MY GOSH!
I sure hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine!!! Make sure you can send it back if you are not 100% delighted!
Let me know how it goes.
oh my gosh, I had one just the other
day. It was a consult and was 98 minutes long, yes 98 minutes. Well after typing for 3 minutes I was "put on hold" and got to listen to crappy music. I did short forwards for a bit and then just went to the end of the 98 minutes and did a few backwards and, sure enough, it was all music; 3 minutes of typing and 95 minutes of crappy music!!
Oh my gosh ne!
I was just reading your thread about the C-phone and lost dictation and saw what you went through 2 years ago. I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry. I'm glad that you and your sons are okay. I can't imagine going through what you are.
Although I know nothing about C-phone, work gets lost all the time and work can be reassigned, I'm sure. Please don't be so hard on yourself. Hang in there.
OH MY GOSH, THANK YOU
I really needed to hear that today. My job is so low paying and so thankless and I am very conscientious so even to get a thank you from a stranger is touching me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Oh my Gosh!!!
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Oh my gosh, its not just me!! I used to
love to stop by MT chat about once a week, to browse all the great and informative posts, knowing I would never see the trolling and ego bashing that runs prevalent here. I was SHOCKED to see just a few old timers over there now, just about blocking every poster who dared ask a question or make a comment. Smashed!! I don't know where the usual mods are, but its very obvious and I am avoiding that place now like the plaque. Always expected more class and better behavior over there. Guess I have to pay for mT daily? So sad.
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