Not many care about "proper" anymore. I hate typing verbatim, so wrong. nm
Posted By: MSMT on 2006-11-30
In Reply to: If forced to transcribe the slang, then - Jerry
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Hate verbatim, also, except
that *if* you get used to it, you really do not have to worry about THEIR errors...
that said, it forces you to NOT care about the quality/accuracy of the work and that sucks for those of us who take price in quality work.
I cannot wait until I can say adios to this work (or at least be able to go to part-time).
If you hate 'em, verbatim!
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There's nothing wrong with the BOS, it's just that so many accounts are verbatim and
want us to do things the way they want it not the way the BOS states. Personally, I have seen some real crap passing as transcription and I think there should be a standard like the BOS that is consistently followed. Of course, there are the facts that the BOS changes and that the AHDI is not on our side and changes in the BOS that is sold by the AHDI all seem to be nit picking away our lines character by character. Bottom line is we need a new AAMT and the AHDI should go to India, whom they seem to love and support so much while pounding the US MT industry into the ground. And is it just me or do all of you find it odd that with all the AHDI bashing we do they NEVER EVER respond/explain/justify their actions?
I don't care anymore- since my hero
Randy Johnson sold his soul to the devil I don't watch it.
I don't even care about 'recognition' anymore - sm
all I want is a paycheck that reflects the education, years of hard work, honesty, and skill that goes into what I do every day. I find it hard to even get up and start working each day, knowing that no matter how fast I go, no matter how many hours I put in, I still won't make enough each month to get by without raiding my dwindling savings account to buy food. Meanwhile, marginally-competent MTs in India are living a more comfortable life than I could even dream of.
You know, I dont think people care anymore what MQ offers or doesnt offer, I think everyone is just
sick of all the confusion, dishonesty, sneakiness, etc. You never know what is around the corner so after this there will be something else no doubt. I think I and most other MQ MTs just want a company that they can respect and trust. MQ can offer this package and turn right around and change that. Leopards dont change their spots. It seems like they are intent on running this company into the ground and they are doing a good job of it. I dont see how they ever will stand up against the money they owe all of these hospitals. You still have to wonder what prompted them to send checks out to the DQS MTs for mistakes in calculation of lines. Give me a break. Maybe they are trying to settle lawsuits to get out of the MT business and focus on just technology. They sure dont know what they are doing with the MT side for sure. I think they felt they had everyone up against a brick wall but as accounts leave so will MTs or MTs will just move on to another business as the wages get lower and lower so then all the work can go to India. Older MTs will cut back or retire and younger ones will leave for something else when they see what they have to battle with the work left over from ASR or VR for the small amount of money not to mention EMRs coming quickly.
That is just wrong. You know what I hate?
Those stupid puppies, kitties, angels, love and kisses emails from "well intentioned friends" that always end with: "Email this to 12 of your friends and something good will happen to you."
Icky, icky, icky. I need some Dramamine and a quick shot of insulin.
Even when you tell these people (friend, sister, aunt, cousin, etc) DO NOT SEND ME THIS CRAP!!! I still get it!
Email has become like the "chain letter" that you used to get in the mail (regular mail in the mailbox outside with a stamp on the envelope).You were 12 and spent many sleepless nights thinking that you would go down below if you "broke the chain."
what's wrong with my typing? Are the bashing
and insults starting for lack of logic?
Hate to disappoint you but the government doesn't care about you.
Where do people get the idea that our government wants to know what is on your computer or who you talk to on the phone. That is soooo stupid. READ, study, investigate it for yourself...not someone elses interpretation.( Patriot Act). It is NOT used for tracking US individuals willy nilly. It is specifically geared toward foreign suspects involving only very specific US contacts/colleagues/persons of interest.
It was started under Clinton and Bush has taken it one step further by daily reports to the cabinet!!!! Nothing more nothing less. Take a trip through our recent history and find the truth yourself instead of becoming part of the media system in spreading untruths and hysterics. It is not new ....only more open.
Love psych notes. HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE,
HATE ER notes.
Verbatim is verbatim, but I defintely to the little things to make the doc look better such as..sm
an eye problem instead of a eye problem. I definitely wouldn't change too much. Stick with what they say and only make changes when you absolutely think it is necessary. I took a test last night and have an interview today and this is what I did. FYI, I do clinic work.
Verbatim = verbatim......flag it...NM
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wrong, wrong, wrong. work is being outsourced because of $. period. not because of unqualified MTs
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I hate DocQSribe, I hate DocQScribe, I hate DocQScrbe, I hate DocQScribe, I hate DocQSribe.
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Love cardiology, hate podiatry. Hate discharges, but
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I hate those but I hate trauma notes on children even more sm
I used to work for a large hospital that saw a lot of children for various horrible things.
The very last one I did was a 12yo boy who had hung himself while his mother was at work. She thought he was in school. The doctor cried, I cried (as I usually did) and I just couldn't handle that anymore. That was the longest report I swear. Short in lines but the length was almost an hour. The doc didn't pause the machine, she cried, horrible gut wrenching sobs, and I did too, right along with her.
Typing. This is NOT typing, it is transcribing. There is a BIG difference. sm
Transcription includes typing, but so much more.
I typed a report on the wrong patient as the doc keyed in the wrong info, SM
He later said the correct patient's name and I SWEAR to this day I made the changes but somehow the report when through without the correct patient and changes made. I still remember that incident.
Kinship care versus foster care/adoption
Having been placed in a position where I now have custody of my 3 YO granddaughter and going through the legal system, I sought an online network of relative caregivers for children. I would encourage you, especially since you are in Georgia, that if you take any children into foster care with the idea of adopting them, there is federal law that requires the state to take certain actions in a specific time frame. When a child is removed from it's bio parent(s), the state is required to investigate any possible relatives who can take the child before foster care is considered, but even before that, reunification with the parents is the priority. Once a child enters the system and is in the system for 15 out of any 22 months, the state is required to find permanent placement for the child.
The problem with this is that there are case workers who may favor a foster family and do not seek out relative care. I have a good friend in Georgia who had to fight all the way to the state level to get custody of her grandson after the child was placed from the hospital into a foster care home with the promise that the foster parents would be allowed to adopt. She has now adopted her grandson, but it was a long, hard battle to get the state to admit their own interests were placed above those of the child and/or family.
If you get a child placed through the state, please make certain there is not a relative who wants that child before you get your hopes up. The courts are now favoring return of children to relatives even after a child has spent years with a foster family who hoped to adopt them.
States get bonus federal funds by complying with the time lines and being able to close the case, so some states place children in foster care because it is easier than trying to locate relatives.
Didn't mean to go off on a tangent, but I can't imagine my sweet bella going to someone outside her family.
If it was a clinic, it might have been urgent care, but it was NOT acute care. sm
Acute care refers to work in an acute care setting, a hospital, doing at least History and Physicals, Discharge Summaries, Consultations, Surgery notes, Emergency Department notes, and much more, including GI procedures, Cardiology procedures, Neurological procedures, Pulmonary Function Studies. It goes on and on and it means and acute care hospital setting, not a clinic.
Fantasia wrong??? Haven't seen the OP's CD, couldn't have been too wrong.
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I don't hate AAMT at all, ks. I don't hate
their book. In fact, I love the BOS2. It is not a regular grammar book at all - there are hundreds of issues in it that are point specific to MTing and medical field. I have dozens of regular grammar books, too, for other purposes, and they are not similar at all. I purchased the BOS2 when out job interviewing for a few months. Every single employer wanted me to have my own company, and they all tested off of it. Several used it in their daily work, and I have found it priceless over all. I think its even on sale now, but $89 is not a lot for a professional tool that we should use if required, or if a newbie. MTs who don't like to buy books are not very wise in the big picture. Its like shooting yourself in the foot.
I always figure if they don't care about their dictation, they probably don't care about their
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Dont care how many languages you took. Care
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It's about morality - not censorship! Right is right and wrong is wrong!
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Verbatim for ESL too?
Geez, if that were the case on my account (not MQ), you wouldn't believe the crap I'd be putting out - "59 years old pt, denies of chest pain, comes to ER for short of breath," and I could go on and on.
Verbatim
I still don't understand, for example I have a doc who does about 20 lengthy bypass operations a week. I have a 4-page "standard", that I just immediately pull up. He never dictates it the same way twice, I just simply pull up my standard, put ears on, follow along and delete, insert, change and so on as he dictates, and that is as good as verbatim.
Since I am on verbatim also, I use whatever s/he says..
Jim for James etc....however, if the doc is clearly off track, he starts calling Mary by the name of Frank for instance (it has happened) then I flag it.
verbatim
The docs at a big teaching hospital I formerly worked for did not put punctuation marks after the word HOWEVER. That's the way they wanted it and we were marked down if we added the comma.
verbatim, really?
Of course verbatim means typing EVERY SINGLE word they say, even when it's a side conversation, a snide comment, etc. One thing I do that may not help them at all but makes me feel that I've at least let them know that I know - I enclose such words in quote marks to set them off from the real words.
Verbatim
As a private IC there was a prominent heart surgeon from Iran whose dictation I "cleaned up" constantly or he would have been the laughing stock of the community. Sometimes you have to "save face" for the client. If I worked for a national and they QA'd me from saving someone from a drastic error, I would immediately "quit." Another ESL went to hospital admin to tell them I was "his friend," I did not change the meaning but there were several instances when I had to make sense of things for him to cover the hospital's reputation. I was taught never to "change the meaning" and to put certain language "in quotes" although as an IC, I would always call the client first and they usually thanked me. When you work for another service, you can't do this, so it makes it very difficult.I guess you have to go with who pays you, but I would never, never type a senseless sentence.Good luck to those who have "bad QA assessments." They should know better.
verbatim
it's stupid and dangerous to type verbatim. Some hospitals stupidly insist on it cuz they believe we can't think for ourselves. They say "We've always done it that way." Well God forbid you should TRY TO IMPROVE. they say "well, you don't KNOW what he meant." My answer to that is "well, YOU may not know, but I do!" They just don't want to be bothered with having to actually think about it. Any decent trx with many years' experience and worth her salt GENERALLY knows what the doc really means but can't spit out, for one reason or another. I'm married to a doc - I know. But he DOES want us to leave blanks if we DON'T KNOW - better that than making something up, which he does see all the time from Spheris trxs. That's what happens when you hire people with one year of experience and don't monitor them closely, of which Spheris is guilty. And leaving a message for them on ESA doesn't work, cuz the doc won't see it till he goes to sign if off, and by that time, he has no earthly idea what he said. Nor does he care!
IF they got verbatim EXACTLY what they said,
they'd probably be in total shock at how ridiculous they actually sound when they dictate. Don't you just want to give them what they give you sometimes?
Verbatim
The problem is with the client profile. It should not ever have the word "verbatim" in it because the word by definition means "word for word" and we all know all of us from time to time and doctors especially speak garbage and have to be cleaned up. If with followed the client profile and transcribed "verbatim," screams would echo across the country. So I am all for removing that word from all the client profiles unless they truly want reports transcribed verbatim, word for word. We could do that, but it would not be much of a record.
verbatim, no BOS sm
Who are they? I would love to throw the BOS out the window, please e-mail me. Sick of all the new rules which don't amount to a hill of beans anyway at most times.
verbatim
I must be getting old. I'm finding it more and more difficult to "follow directions" as I age regarding this subject. I can't believe these younger physicians don't want us to fix the glaring errors. The real trouble is there's no one who will be the intermediary between the transriber and the doc, maybe, like back in the day. Way too many cooks stirring the broth and complicating what used to be a common-sense and less complicated situation, transcribing, that is.
i do verbatim too, but still BOS has
many points of reference that are helpful. I am one that hated the idea of a BOS, but when i finally succumbed, found there was a lot of useful info in it. Its not a bad idea to have a common reference point.
They may want verbatim, but if they are in
an acute care facility BOS overrides what they want. JCAHO can give/withhold accreditation based on the medical records and they say follow BOS. It isn't that is is an issue of style as much as it is a patient safety issue.
Verbatim
The hospital I work for now is a verbatim account, but we were told to spell out everything in DX, Impression, etc. I spelled out a lab abbrev and it looked so weird, but QA/Trainer told me to spell it out. Very contradictory so if it ever comes back as getting "dinged" for it I am going to tell QA who told me and they better not takes points off my audit.
verbatim is hard for me too
It is very hard for me to deliberately type wrong words, phrases, etc. It makes me think someday someone is going to read that document and say "gads where did they get that transcrptionist!" not knowing we have to type it as dictated.
verbatim accounts
I thought the idea was to correct their poor dictation in most circumstances...I'm wondering why any client would prefer it verbatim, for legal reasons?
that is verbatim. QAs are only human too. nm
you could fix it if you wanted to or is it verbatim? nm
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Well, now if it is a verbatim account and
the dictator said, "during this hospital stay" and the MT transcribed "during this hospitalization" -- that is wrong. It all depends on what the client profile outlines.
Seriously, do you *really* type verbatim? sm
I don't. I'm supposed to, but I've told my super that nothing with my initials on it will ever read like "Patient hand swollen." Yep, I take some liberties. I clean things up, I've added in words, taken some out, rearranged words. I think count-wise it comes out even because I'm not padding and I remove words probably about as often as I add them.
If you are on a verbatim account, are you really typing "Obese patient older than says age, no toxic"?
Only typed verbatim twice
once for a Russian infectious disease MD. After one week of strict verbatim reports, evidently she got a talking to by the senior partner and her style became acceptable.
The hospital is one of the larget and most respected hospitals in the US. All residents much pass a week-long course dedicated strictly to how to chart, how to document, how to dictate. Each resident must personally sign his/her own name daily on a log in sheet and anyone who misses a day does not get to start with the rest of peers. One day is devoted SOLEY to HOW TO DICTATE and accepting full legal responsibility for the dictation. They have to sign an agreement that the hospital will not provide legal support if their documentation falls short of their standards and the resident has to provide his/her own funding against any lawsuit. If they dictate a reversal of pulse rate/respiratory rate, I could switch them, but I had to send it to QA who attached a note to the dictator covering the MTSO from any repercution.
Best dictators I EVER had!
If these dictators actually got verbatim
reports, they would probably have a stroke and need immediate medical attention. It is scary to think that these people dictating take care of us and our families. I certainly hope they are better at treating than they are at dictating. 
is this a verbatim account?....nm
How can verbatim=garbage?
We transcribe what professionals dictate. These people went to college for a long, long time to learn their profession. Who are we to say verbatim=garbage!!! Become a physician, then talk that garbage! Give me a break! We average $25.00 an hour if we're lucky as transcriptionists, and these physicians are making much, much more than that because they went to school to be a physician and treat patients. Come on! Transcription is just that, typing what the doctors say verbatim, maybe correct a little inconsistency here and there (we're all human), but to say the physicians' statements are garbage is wrong, wrong, wrong! If we were so bright, we wouldn't be typing, we'd be doctors!!!!!!!!!!! Let's give credit where credit is due! Bottom line is no doctors-no transcriptionists! AAMT is just another company out there trying to turn a buck! They don't know it all and neither do we for goodness sakes! Do the best job you can because believe me if you are that important in the medical field (as a transcriptionist), you'd make what the doctors are making!!!!! I'm sure I'll get blasted for this one!!!! Oh well!
Oy. And I suppose it's verbatim.
So then you have to ask if you are supposed to leave the stoopid stuff in or take it out??
Verbatim dictation
The company I work types verbatim as well. I would not have it any other way. It is much better than trying to remember 50,000 rules by the BOS!!
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