No - fourth year resident, still in medical school - no MD degree yet. nm
Posted By: ExpMT25 on 2006-02-23
In Reply to: question - medical students - Sandy
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I think it's a 2 year degree (sm)
I looked into this also, but I think the pay is really low, like $7.50 an hour.
A year???? Is that possible? What sort of degree is it? - nm
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I have a friend who did that, and the 2-year degree I don't think
has the salary range I am looking into. A master's degree may be a bit much, but I really have not seriously considered it. Maybe that is another thing I can speak with the counselor about. Thanks. :)
The cat story...that would be a good thing to not have to deal with, lol.
It will definitely be a challenge doing all this with the kids, but on the plus side, I am still young. I do have that advantage. So, are you doing the 2-year program or going to be a PT? Good luck on your application. :)
2-year degree not valued . . .
That was what I was getting at. In a lot of other fields, a bachelor's degree will get you paid more than someone with an associates in the same. My thoughts (when entering school - and what the school told me) was that I would get paid more by having an associates instead of just a certificate. That is where my frustrating comes in. I wish I would have paid for a 4 month course instead of wasting money on a degree that hasn't gotten me anything more than a certificate would have. That was where I was going. I do not think I am well compensated only in that I wish I were getting paid more for having more education.
Associate's Degree in Medical Secretarial Science - sm
2-year program with emphasis on transcription. Terrific - wouldn't have learned it any other way. Taught me to be a good MT - not these quick-fix on-line programs where everyone things they can early a huge salary as soon as they are done.
33, Medical Secretary Degree, graduated in 1999
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Take your medical degree into the office and voice your concerns.
How do you know the patient isn't getting the proper care? No two patients are alike, just because your child has the same condition doesn't mean anything. This parent probably has googled her child's condition and is working along with the doctor. As an MT, you should not talk about any patient even with the other people in the office. It is confidential information and very unprofessional.
After I went to a 1-year MT course at a vocational school, it was so bad that I did the 2-year colle
Not only did I finally receive the proper training, but the woman on the advisory board hired and mentored me. I also joined the local AAMT and networked. Good luck. I know how frustrating it can be. A community college will have a good program to include medical language, MT courses taught by local MTSOs, business English, anatomy and physiology, pathophysiology, etc.
BTW...MCATS are for PRE-medical school.
MCATS are for college grads APPLYING for med school, not for RESIDENTs, as ?she? stated.
But MT does not prepare you even for that. Gimme a huge break.
I had 2 years of school for medical
records as they called it then with a semester in transcription. I transcribed office notes for a PT part time while in school and applied for FT in the hospital where my PT worked and basically "trained" on the job. However, this was 27 years ago and they did train you inhouse, and we were on typewriters.
U.S. offers them medical school at a discount
if they remain in the country and practice in out of the way places for a period of time before returning to their country or to a higher wage earning position within the medical establishment.
many ESLs went to medical school in their own country
and have chosen to immigrate to America..or have gotten an appointment at a hospital here. They have not taken anything away from us. They were able to get visas because of their valuable medical skills. Yes they want to make money, like most of us. Check out some of the profiles of doctors on hospital web sites. Puts a face to the voice. Like or it not, it's helpful to many people in this country to visit a doctor who speaks their native language.
year-round school! nm
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I went back to school this year
In my area both the RN-AD and dental hyg. programs have wait lists, however the dental hyg. wait is like 4 years versus the RN wait being 1-1/2 years. I am just finishing up all my gen eds and I should be off the wait list and into the core program next fall. I am taking extra psych classes to fill my "elective" courses as I was told that hospitals prefer nurses with their BSN to have psych minors, and I'm only in the AD program (associate degree), but I can still list extra psych courses on my resume. I wish you the very best of luck!!!
Geez. Where do the ppl live with the all year school. SM
Also the person who stated her kids went back to school two weeks ago. In july???? Geez, I thought August 30th was early. What schools go back in JUly and what ones are all year?
I have trained 2 people from scratch, no medical background, no school, nothing and they started ave
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POLL: Home School vs. Charter School vs. Public School vs. Priv ate School...
Pros and cons of each too. I have two little ones that will be starting school soon and I would like opinions on all. Thanks in advance! :)
No, a 4th year medical student is just that, a
student who has received a Bachelor's degree and is in medical school studying to become a doctor. He/she does not become a doctor until completion of medical school. He then becomes an intern/resident and has earned the title of Dr.
I go through this every year when the school district starts hiring.
And I have cabin fever really, really bad from being home with the kids almost 24/7. Plus, I don't get much adult interaction in the summer because all of my friends are busy with their own families, vacations, work, etc. We don't get together as often as during the school year.
The work part of it is OK. I have good accounts, but it can be boring or frustrating with interruptions. Like the other poster, I have to play music in the background and buckle down to be productive. However, there is something to be said for the flexibility that I have in working at home. I'm here for the kids. I can take a break whenever I want to. I don't have to get dressed up or drive anywhere. No office politics. No supervisor screaming at me. No out-of-town travel. I have my own office now. I have total control over the thermostat. I can eat whatever I want to whenever I want to. I'm saving money by not using daycare. I make as much or more working part-time than if I worked fulltime, paid daycare, and had to drive to and from a job. Best of all, I have time during the day to exercise, clean the house, or do my hobbies. I'm not so exhausted by the end of the day that I just slap food on the table and veg out in front of the TV. I don't watch TV at all any more! For me, the benefits are still good enough to keep doing this for at least a few more years. I can always go back into the workforce when the kids are older.
BS in criminal justice, in my last year of law school - still typing! nm
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oh my production is cut in HALF!! wish we had year round school. nm
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I'm 46 and I went back to school this year full time for a BSN...sm
I was worried about because, let's face it, my short term memory isn't what it used to be LOL. Plus the program is ONLY full time. They had 1000 applicants and picked the top 70 of us. If you didn't have a 3.5 GPA, you didn't get in. But I am doing really well in school - after I got past the shock of the first 6 weeks - tons of work- and I am at the top of my class. My husband, bless his heart, is doing all the cooking and we are basically kind of ignoring the dirt. My house will be clean again another day. I am finishing up my second semester, have 3 more semesters for a BSN, and then another 2.5 years to get my masters and be an advanced practice nurse. 41 is definitely not too old! You will have to work smart to save your back but it can be done. Also MT is starting a slow slide out...you would be smart to start your second career now while you still have a job... IMHO
good luck!
That's incorrect. A 4th year medical student is
indeed an M.D. They do not have a license to practice yet, though.
27-year-old born with no past medical history
I had that the other day. Is anyone actually born with a past medical history?
My daughter already started 1st grade - year-round school. Yippee! (nm)
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third and fourth paragraphs
Say it all! You already have your answer.
Fourth grade
Sounds like she is in 4th grade (age 9)? Most people agree that that is a tough year. I remember it was for me and my twin sister. I was not comfortable with competitive sports, but I think it would have given me confidence (and an outlet for all the negative energy of anxiety) if I had taken martial arts after school, or gymnastics or something like that to give me confidence and strength.
Current 4th year English major. Lots of school ahead. sigh. nm
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OT: Girl singer on the July 4th shows - did anyone catch this show on the Fourth?
I'm trying to find the name of one of the performers on the evening of the Fourth who sang God Bless the Child (I think it was on the show where the President attended). Does anyone know who that singer was? I missed the first half of her song and they did not announce her name again at the end. I thought it might have been Brandy but I haven't kept up with celebs lately.
Thanks in advance.
Resident....
I have worked in/around hospitals for over 40 years and your situation is different. Most places consider any MS of any year a student - that is why they are called Medical Student. They are in school, have not received a degree. Most go for 4 years. In the 3rd year, they start doing internships to get them ready for Residency, but they are still called MS3 and MS4.
After they get their MD, then most go on to Residencies and then they are called doctor.
I had a resident the other day who kept saying
P-tosis. He didn't sound much older than my 20 YO DS.
I agree with the cadiac docs though. I think they are some of the worst.
Student vs Resident
I think you guys are confusing a 4th year medical student with a 4th year resident - only the resident is a doctor.
Former Myrtle Resident
Myrtle Beach and the surrounding areas have to be the most wonderful areas to live ever...unfortunately two years ago I had to leave the area due to my hubby's company transferring us. When you get to go to Myrtle savor every minute of my "home" for me. Its wonderful...take in the fresh salt air and know you are in a little part of heaven.
Okay, so I've got this resident
on the line dictating and I'm actually thinking to myself - wow if he's this bad now, what's he going to be like when he's the doc and has no one telling him how to do it.
He's trying to dictate in that choppy style  (cutting out the words that help to make things understandable). I'm guessing he thinks it's saving someone money.
He wouldn't be half-bad to understand, if he would just open his mouth a little bit wider when he speaks. It's like he's purposely trying to see if he can "throw his voice". Maybe he secretly wants to be a ventriloquist.
Seriously, I think the part of the resident's rotation should be in the transcription department. If they spent even 1 day doing nothing but transcribing, maybe they'd try to be a little bit clearer when they're dictating.
Okay - done complaining - back to work! 
I have a resident this morning
who is literally spelling everything under the sun. All medications, the word "supple", etc. He is driving me absolutely mad.
Resident dictates at end of report...
"Note to transcriptionist...thank you for your time, thank you for your service, and have a great day."
WOW, that doesn't happen often, and when it does, it sure feels nice to know we are considered colleagues and not just a typewriter on the other end of the telephone line!
I have a resident who keeps saying, "Acephalic, normotraumatic" and ... sm
...lemme tell ya, after hearing that a couple of dozen times it is SO tempting to just give it to her (perhaps in quotes, but give it just the same), but so far I have resisted temptation.
Resident of Louisiana and all of the United States
PRAY! PRAY! PRAY!
As a resident of Louisiana, I ask that you all pray not only for those poor souls in New Orleans but for the whole state and surrounding areas. The aftermath effect is going to be widespread. PRAY! We are already experiencing food supply shortages. Woman fighting over a loaf of bread in a Wal-Mart. PRAY! Our kids may not be able to start school because there is no diesel or gas for the buses. PRAY! For this I urge all you have enormous SUVs just to ride around in to get rid of them. The worst is yet to come. PRAY! There are reports of the centers having out breaks of riots not only in New Orleans but in the other areas housing the displaced people. PRAY! Also, help any way you can. If you can not afford monetary donations, please give your time at one of the shelters.
All our lives have and/or will change from this tragedy no matter where you live.
I agree. Can't believe that no one else isn't looking up addresses, resident's names, new m
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You honestly think an MT has an education equivalent to a RESIDENT?!?
Oh PUULLEEEEZZZ.
Get over yourself!
LOL!
Had a resident who practically giggled through his entire dictation....
because his psych patient kept asking him if he wanted to see her underwear (she was in her 70s). I didn't find the woman's comment so funny, but this doc had the weirdest laugh...it was like Ernie from Bert & Ernie on Sesame Street. Weird.
"Listen" to the resident authority editor? That really says a lot about the pompous attitude
Can it.
I did that with 2 kids with time mgmt and a high school girl who babysat 3 days a week after school
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The cost of running a private school or any school is expensive....
Why do you think public schools are so run down and can't find good teachers? Because the government and people to not put forth the effort or $$$$ to improve the educational system.
I get this to a certain degree also (sm)
It usually happens after quite a while of typing, and usually only when it is a little cold in the house, but I think it happens in warmer weather too. Mine doesn't sound as bad as yours though. It always resolves fairly quickly, does yours? I haven't had to wear gloves (yet). Let me know what you find out, if anything. I have always attributed it to poor circulation because my hands and feet seem to get cold easily, but I suppose it could be something else as well.
Sorry I didn't have any words of wisdom, just wanted to let you know that this happens to others as well and you are not alone!
I would buy new a Dorland's Medical Dictionary, Stedmans Medical and Surgical Equipment...SM
and Tessier's The Surgical Word Book, 3rd edition. Books you could buy used I would say would be Stedman's Pathology and Lab Medicine and Cardiology/Pulmonary word book. These are all the books I use the most during my day. You could buy other speciality word books as you need them and could probably go used with those.
I wouldn't bother with buying a drug book, new editions come out every year and I just stick to the FDA website and RXList as my drug references.
Also FYI, not a book, but I use my Stedman's Electronic Medical Dictationary a lot. It's easier to open the program than it is to pick up a huge 30-pound dictionary.
Do you have a college degree, and in what?
I know there are MTs out there who have Associate's, Bachelor's, or Master's degrees. According to other posters, those of us with higher education who choose to do MT are pitiful.
what online degree are you looking at
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However, a lot of people think getting a degree
is like getting an automatic ticket to an entirely different life with better job opportunities, more money, and career satisfaction. I thought that, too. Things have drastically changed out there, though. More and more people have degrees, so the competition is fierce. They're willing to work for less money, too, just to have A job, any job.
Also, minimum wage went up but middle wages didn't, cost of living went up, and wages have actually gone down in other industries besides MT due to offshoring.
I guess I'm just in an "if I knew then what I know now" mood. LOL None of my siblings went to college, and they're better off than I am. They make way more money than I do and don't have that monthly payment to make.
I love writing, too. Have you done any freelance writing or editing? If you get some clips built up, you might be able to break in based on talent instead of having a degree. With that specific career field in mind, it might be worth it for you to get a degree. I don't know how much competition there is in that field right now.
Bachelor's Degree
I have a BS in Communications 1990 with some graduate work. I worked as an instructor in a college doing medical assiting job placement and then I just kind of fell into transcription when my daughter was born in 1998.
PAs have at the very least a Bachelor's Degree ..
correct??
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