No - fat cats vs. working poor sm
Posted By: Smartened Up on 2008-10-13
In Reply to: AAMT (informal poll) - equineluvr
They did nothing for me and they are elitists. Even from the beginning, I saw that they were a bunch of puffed-up suits who knew no better than us but benefitted from putting on a show of "helping us out" and profiteering. There were a few like Vera Pyle who were good, but the rest - pffft, wouldn't give you two cents for their inflated egos. I vote NO on this. Like most other things going on today - trying to change the system to meet their greedy needs. They "change the rules" to suit themselves.
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Cats going outside.
I think everyone is entitled to their stance on this issue, it is a hard call to make, whether indoor/outdoor or always indoor, and I believe it is up to each individual to make that choice. I make the choice to have indoor/outdoor cats as I think that mine are most happy that way. There are ways that you can get your cats outdoors that are safe, many fencing systems that with some trial and error work. I know a lady who made wire tunnels that ran the perimeter of her yard that ended up in the woods attached to another enclosure she hade a handy man make for her, she said it was very inexpensive to make and it was really neat. I saw pictures of it. I plan to do something similar when I own property. Whatever you decide, do what you think is best for you, and let others do what they think is best for them. I have lost 1 cat to outside predators and it was wrenching, could not get out of bed for a week, but I still continue to let mine out to this day because that is what I feel makes them the happiest. I say lets choose to disagree or agree on this subject. All for the animals!!!
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Cats will go off and die alone, my vet told me that. Also, in regard to keeping a cat indoors vs letting it out, we have coyotes and rabies in our states and they advised everyone to keep their cats indoors, even our indoor cats have to get rabies shots. I have a siamese who I let out with me in the garden but bring her in with me and she is never out at night. I got her from the ASPCA, and it took her a while to get used to being indoor cat, but my vet told me he has too many cats who suffer from fights, death by coyote or rabid bites.
Two Cats
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Well, as follows (all cats)...
The Four Bumpas Brothers (so called because they love each other so much and are alway bumping heads together) who are Big, Baby Dogfood, Baby and Smokey Bumpas. Mr. Atticus Pinkas, because when we got him he lived in the attic for weeks and always comes down with pink insulation on him. Mr. French (he just looks like he would be French with his moustache). Dead-eye Lil, who obviously has one bad eye, her babies Paper and Plastic (they were born last week in a brown paper grocery sack) Sherbie, who is an orange barn cat. Old Dogfood, who came with the place we bought 10 years ago and is also a barn cat. All of these are outside cats, except Mr. Pinkas, who fears the outside world! The others were all drop offs and strays. Living in the country we get a lot of these!
Tip & Taz - two cats
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Funny though. They get along with cats.
Depending on the cat of course. Had a neighbor who had kittens that would play with the baby skunks and the momma skunk would just sit and watch.
I delivered newspapers for 4 years and never got sprayed. Just stand still and they go away. They're basically nonagressive unless they feel threatened.
I have an albino cat that was meowing in the garage one night and I opened the door a crack and they were nose to nose, like they were talking to each other. Weird. Actually my cat was probably saying, "Hey buddy, thanks for opening that garbage bag, they had KFC last night." 
I love cats....
I have had cats since I left my parents house which was 10 years ago now. I have had a couple of cats that were outdoor cats and I turned them into indoor cats. It can be done. When you move, the cat may act real weird at first because it new surrounding, but just be patient with the cat and give him a few weeks to get used to it. I made the mistake of letting my cat outside at our new house and he never came home : ( I lost another cat to a car hitting him because he was outside running in the street. Now, I have a cat and I won't let her out of the house for nothing. She has gotten used to it and is always on her best behavior. I have had her for six years. It is best not to let the cat out anyway because I don't know where you live, but the animal control agency can come take any strays away because you are not suppose to let them run outside. So many animals get put down for this reason  I suggest you make it work if you really want this cat, and if you need to, maybe contact a veternarian or a professional that can give you some more advice.
My cats were allowed outside until...
I got tired of all the medical bills due to things they were picking up from other animals that were outside and were not being taken care of. The last straw was the last episode of worms, which were roundworms. Having kids, I cannot take the chance of them getting sick due to this. Also, I had a stray cat I fed all the time and took care of because the neighbor just left it when she moved, not to mention the fact that she didn't care for it while she lived there. We were moving and found someone who would take the cat, but only if he was fixed. We were going to fix him, but noticed his glands were very swollen. Turns out he had feline leukemia. I put him down, cried the whole time, and came home and buried him by myself while the kids were gone. I was soooooo angry. While my cats have their shots, that is a chance I am not willing to take. I have had my oldest cat for 11 years now and he is like a kid to me. I am very much for animal rights and go above and beyond to help animals in need, much to my husband's dismay, but there are times when not letting your animals outside is justified. My dogs are inside/outside dogs, but they cannot get over the fence....the cats can.
Have had cats gone for that long too..sm..
they are pretty independent, try not to worry too much.
I live in the country and we get strays and drop offs all the time, we have 9 right now, as some people who were renting a small home near ours moved without taking their cats! Imagine that...I have a very soft spot for animals, much to my husband's dismay at times, so I at least make sure they are fed to keep them from wandering onto the highway to who know's what fate!
Good luck, let us know!
The home of two cats
I have two cats. A torti named Callie. Some of her favorite things are sleeping under the covers in bed and watching us on the computer. She loves to lay on top of the monitor!!!! Our other cat is a chocolate siamese named Sissy. She is the most timid cat I have ever seen. She hates to go outside and does not like to be picked up at all. Even with all their little eccentricities, they are great pets!!!
my cats' names are
Tinker, Algebra, and Katrina. I also have a peach-faced lovebird named Pretty Bird.
off topic, but still re: cats
How on earth do you keep a cat from getting on the hood of cars? My cat is five years old and only does it occasionally. For some reason it is always late at night. I can peek out the window and see him perched just as proudly on my car and--gasp--a time or two on a neighbor's car. I hate him getting on mine and I surely don't want him on anyone else's car. A couple of times that I've caught him on mine I hit the alarm from inside the house hoping to scare him enough that he'd be afraid of the car and never get on it again. No use. I only catch him every week or so. Any advice???
Talking about cats, need help
I have 3 cats, an older cat that have taken to the vet. She is not what I call shedding because you can tug gently on her fur and it comes out in droves. I got vitamins and also some antiinflammatories for her when I went about the above issue. Vet wanted to know if stressed (the cat that is) and I said nothing has changed. Have given the medicine for approximately 3 weeks and still the excessive hair loss (hers more so than mine!) Anyone had a similar situation? Thanks
some people do not want their cats outside--sm
no matter what their size. I have two and I do not want either of them outside, to do their business, or for any other reason. My big kitty (14) pounds does not fit in conventional litter boxes either, and he is too *chicken* to go inside a housed one. He does not squat, either, but just sprays standing up. I ended up buying a semi-large concrete mixing plastic pan about 24x20 inch and some plastic plexi. I hot glued the plexi to the sides of the platic cement mixing pan and left one side open for easy access. he does well with it, except occasionally turning his hind end towards the open side and letting it fly, but I have matts there to protect the carpet and I can wash easily. mostly he hits the plexi sides though and it has alleviated that problem. My smaller kitty uses this litter box too.
Oh no! My cats come to visit me too. They
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Awesome! Thanks so much!! I registered my 3 cats...
and will register a memorial for my dog who passed away 2 years ago.
Just for the heck of it, here's the link to "my kids"
Again, many thanks 
Can Frontline for dogs be used on cats?
Am short on cash right now and my two cats are needing treatment. Don't want to make them sick and figure that is why cats cannot use dog flea remedies. Wanted to see if anyone had ever done this. I don't want to take any chances with Charles and Cali <meow>
Thanks !!!
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My kitty is sick and I don't know anything about cats.
He's about 3 or 4 months old. He is a very playful kitty. Usually attacking my ankles or feet when I work, attacking the dog's tail, etc. A couple of days ago he just wasn't himself. Laying around, not playful at all. Yesterday and last night, he threw up three times, and today he basically laid in the same spot all day long sleeping and barely moving. I'm not sure when was the last time he used the litter box. I took him to the vet and they are keeping him overnight. They indicated he was pretty sick because he didn't resist having his blood taken or being poked on and he didn't try to groom himself after they were done. We haven't had him long. We adopted from the animal shelter. He was the only survivor of his litter and the momma cat was killed by a car.
I am really bummed for my kids. We just lost our cat and dog this past winter in a house fire and I just don't know how my kids are going to react if something is wrong with our new kitty.
Leash training cats 101
I have had cats for over 20 years now and successfully trained half of them to walk outside on a leash with a harness. The others seemed not as receptive to it (most of them were not kittens when I adopted them too). The first thing you have to remember is it needs to be FUN. You need to be very patient. Cats are not small dogs when it comes to leash training and really are not in the business of doing things just to please you as dogs often are. Remember to proceed slowly. For the first few times just attach the harness to their back (make sure it is not too tight!) and let them walk around with it on in the house. Offer plenty of praise and treats. Do this for a few minutes. A few hours later try it again but for a longer time. Do not forget the praise and treats. I used to hug mine, groom them, offer treats. When they are completely comfortable with the harness attach the leash. Do not let it drag behind them; keep it loose in your hand. Never tug on them unless it is for a safety issue. Remember, slowly. Talk to them, praise them, offer treats. Keep this session short. Do this for a few days, or as long as you feel they need it. It varies so much with each individual animal. I have had cats take right to it and be out walking in the yard the next day, while others needed a few weeks before I felt they could go outside on a leash. On the day you decide to take them out make sure it is a quiet day outside your door. You want this time to be especially nice for them because cats have notoriously good memories. Slowly let them walk out the door. Remember, you are there to guide them. I used to let mine trot around the yard and had one cat that would partially climb up trees. They used to line up inside my house when they heard the harness drawer being opened to be first in line to *suit up!* I even successfully used this method for 2 adult cats who I thought might enjoy it. Good luck to you! May your cats enjoy a safe walk on the wild side!
Leash Trained Cats
Can I ask if how you got your cats to go on the leash. Did you start them out when they were kittens. I always thought this would be a safe alternative. My cats both stay inside and are very content and happy. They go in the screened porch in the summer and actually hate going outside. As far as hiding when they're sick, my cat was deathly sick with a UTI and he hid in the basement. Thank God we found him. The vet said if we waited until the next day he would have been dead. I hope you find your cat safe.
several things that cats really hate usually,
if you can catch them in the act -- water spray with a bottle, or clap hands loud and aggressively shout 'no' (then pretty soon, a simple loud NO will do), and/or use a rolled up newspaper to swat at them (you don't have to hit the cat, but hit somehing nearby -- its the noise that gets their attention). If none help, can put in a cat carrier whenever they misbehave. Good luck.
The only corner left to cut is to eat my cats.
We adopted 3 feral cats and one of them won't use the litter box
all the time. She uses it sometimes, just not all the time. We have 2 litter boxes and she always goes in the room where the boxes are, sometimes actually touching the box and once she went on the actual box of litter. They have all been spayed, put on antibiotics in case of infection, we have tried 3 different litter boxes, various litters, keeping them cleaned,etc. and nothing seems to work. It seems to be only 1 of the 3 cats and she may go a few days and do okay but then we find or smell a surprise. Our vet has no clue and I've read and tried various things I've found on-line.
Get Frontline for cats from that entirelypets.com - much cheaper - nm
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Buy the cats some cat furniture, there are great buys on E-Bay. (nm)
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No need to lock the cats up. They'll figure it out.
If someone is shooting them with BB's when they wander into someone else's yard, it won't take them too long to figure out to stay away from there. Cats aren't stupid.
I told my neighbors when I moved into my new neighborhood with my 2 long time outdoor cats, "If they bother you, just soak them with the hose and they won't come back." It worked. They sleep in some neighbors yards or gardens, but never venture near the houses they got wet at and we've been here almost 7 years.
I'd give my cats away before I would lock them in the house. Once an outdoor cat, always an outdoor cat.
Otherwise, you just have a miserable indoor cat.
Your cats WILL adjust in time. Keep them inside!
It is not rocket science. Buy cat trees and toys for them. Keep them amused. I have done it, as have many other people. It is for their own safety. Good luck to you.
My cats LOVE the Drinkwell fountain -
My vet told me years ago you need to keep the lid closed and not let pets drink from the toilet. Try the fountain - it is FUN! :-)
Cats - Norman, Molly, Luther, and Luc
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3 cats, Tristen, Adia and Truffle, NM
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My cats apparently moved my toolbars once -
They apparently jump on the keyboard one night. It took me forever to figure out what to do!
Afraid to lose your job? Go and fight with your cats! .nm
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Question, please! Cats: Shedding and clawing furniture!
How do I get control of this white cat fur on my forest green furniture and stop him from clawing it up?
p.s. I do have 2 feral cats I adopted and they love it indoors. sm
They are the sweetest little girls, littermates.
How's the weather where U are? Pouring cats & dogs in San Francisco....
 ..... guess it's time to think about building an ARK! 
My cats are leash trained and LOVE it. Best of both worlds!
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Regarding previous postings about large kittie cats--sm
There was a thread of posts about a week ago, or a little longer, concerning large kittie cats and litter boxes. There was one poster who had suggested using a large storage tub with a *door* cut into it and replacing it every six months. I would like to thank that poster tremendously!!! I have a large boy kittie who stands up to *P* and just sprayed every where. My ex and I had built a makeshift kittie litter box with plastic sides glued to it, so the cat wouldn't spray the walls, etc. My kittie would not go inside the covered litter boxes, either, so it was a mess. The makeshift litter box helped alot, but I really liked the idea of the storage tub and went to Walmart last weekend. My son said that my big kittie would not like it and would not use it, because my big boy kittie is afraid of EVERYthing. Well, I cut the *door* in the side of it, filled it with litter, and about two hours later, my big boy kittie was sticking his head in the door, checking it out, and then using it!! I was SO happy! He LOVES it! and so do I ! It was the best $7.00 I ever spent! So, to the lady who suggested it.....THANK YOU SO MUCH! If I could reach you, I would hug you! 
canned air is good but scares the * outta my cats!
We're talking heart attack city for all 3 of them!
Agree with Romey. I use dog Frontline - split one tube between my 4 cats.
5 cats - Amadeus, Flash, Turbo, Rhiannon, Lizzie
Three Maine Coons and 2 domestic shorthairs.
two cats-Spike-male-Sierra-female--my babies.nm
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Cats' names are Miss Jiff, Squeaky, Bob, and Bib Kitty. nm
No, I need to work with some coworkers with "class", not low rental boss-bashing cats!
And what I love the most - if Frank himself called one of them, or actually walked up to them in an office, they'd fall all over him, gushing about how great he is to work for! Guaranteed! Its just so "catty" to claw his eyes out on an anonymous message board and giggle, giggle, giggle. I'd be saying the same thing to their faces as well, except I'd probably be their supervisor and would be canning their catty behinds.
Yup, and all those happy rabbits and cats think WE'RE gonna feed them. The nerve!
And no matter what we say, they'll just keep on having baby after baby, just like animals! The unfairness of it all! What will become of us all?
Good for you, I love people who rescue homeless pets. I take in cats myself
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I agree with Misty, after doing rescue work with cats for over 20 years, they do adjust and become v
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