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No benefits as an IC but more money because (sm)

Posted By: Getting older on 2006-11-23
In Reply to: Would love to hear your answers on this... - GAMT

you are cutting out the middle man. You just have to pay the IRS out of your own pocket instead of having a national and that can get expensive.

As for the same rate to a company that they pay to an individual, you have to watch that. Being an IC, you need to KNOW what the going rate is; otherwise, you may undercut the going rate and/or make those working as an employee for a company worse off; i.e., I think that's part of the problem with the rates for employee status are going down...nationals must cut their rates because of the competition and...well, you know the rest of the story.

I hope this made sense.


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Don't forget the money saving benefits
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That was with full benefits, which are the same benefits as an in-office employee for the QA staff..
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IC positions offer no benefits, employee positions off full benefits, so if you do not need
benefits, then IC would be best.
Make money? I'm not making any money because of my decision. You read my reasoning
You can agree with me or not, but don't make false assumptions please.
You're working to make money, not to spend money.
These people should be ashamed of themselves taking advantage of people this way!
I also blew some money signing up with Quixtar... The only way to make any money is to bug everyone

you know into signing up.  I felt like a snake oil huckster.  I hated it.  I was flushing money down the toilet from the moment I handed over my money. 


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The CMT exam is overrated. Don't waste your time & money. Use that money on
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Right Now, we do get benefits
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You can do that with benefits too, ya know.
:)

As long as you're happy, it pays your bills, and you can make ends meet at tax time, that's all that counts. :)
Is that with or without benefits

Do they have Editor positions as SE?


 


If you don't need benefits, look into
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I was in QuickLube, or whatever it's called this week, and a 70-something lady was talking about her work as a home aide - light housekeeping and cooking and companionship - no medical stuff. She got her referrals through her church and was charging $10/hour.
Unfortunately, some of us need benefits.

Not even in the salad days did I make anywhere near that.  In fact, most of the services I know don't charge that.


It's all about the benefits
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Can you name some benefits for
the American MT to become certified? Please tell me how AAMT has changed the average MT's job security, satisfaction, etc. All I see is that they have given up on us and moved overseas to start programs and gain overseas members.
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Tax benefits

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If you do not need benefits then you would
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IC - No benefits with this doc
I was total IC before. I dropped my other accounts and went the employee route for the bennies and so taxes are taken out. Now I get days and holidays off, too. That's a first. Worked 9 years 7/7, 12-14 hours a day, 3 days off a year for family.

What no one seems to realize that in my area, money is tight and so I can't charge the same as someone in a city or heavily populated area can charge. Jobs just aren't here.
Benefits
They cannot give you benefits if you are an IC. If they did they would have to turn you into employees. This is not just my opinion they are IRS rules.
My pay is okay - just no more benefits

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I truly believe in working smarter than harder.  If a company offers a platform or dictators that prevent me from making a minimum of 200 lph or more, then I don't work for them.  If I can't use my abbreviations that I've built over the past 10 years, then I won't work for that company.  If I can't have benefits paid by the company AND the cpl I want, then yes, I will be an independent contractor and take all the tax benefits I can.  Last year, I only paid $268 in federal taxes for the entire year.


I have to work around my child as well (I am single) and I am fortunate that my training days are well behind me.  I still have a good life and good income, but I am choosy about the company I will work for.  When I am older and things change significantly that I make less than $40k/yr, then I will go back into coding and have a job with good pay and benefits.  I can't see staying in a profession if it doesn't benefit me the way I need it to.


About benefits

After I wrote my last post I was just thinking about the benefits.  I was with Keystrokes for a while and you can be an employee with them and still get the flexibility of 24 hour TAT and therefore you can get the benefits.  So it's not impossible to get benefits and flexibility.  I know the Keystrokes ortho accounts offer 24 hour TAT, not sure if it's all of the ortho accounts, but I know some of them do.  I'm not sure if they have other specialties that have the 24 hour TAT.  Good luck.


Benefits
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benefits?
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benefits
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No Benefits

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Have a good day!


CMT benefits
Company I work for pays 1 cent per line more for CMT, also provides gift certificates for several webinars a year so does not cost me much.
Benefits
Just found out benefit premiums are going up over $100 more a month.  I am hardly getting by as is, let alone when benefits go up.  I have to carry the insurance for my entire family (husband is self employed).  If someone works for a company that offers good coverage (deductible $1000 or less and copays $30 or less) and cheap premiums (i.e. less than $500/mo for family coverage), could you please let me know.  I would greatly appreciate it.  Thank you. 
Benefits (sm)
115V AC
3-prong grounded plugs
dust cover provided
I have benefits.
I am an employee though, so make less per line than an IC, and don't get to choose my schedule. Worth it to get benefits though. You just have to find a company willing to hire you as an employee.
do we get benefits?
What's a benefit????
No more benefits, either
I didn't either think about benefits when I posted.  I got two weeks paid vacation a year plus paid health insurance and matching taxes deducted through paycheck.  Now as an IC, I don't get any of those things.  The one thing I have now that I did not have even in 2002 was cable internet, but didn't really need it as much then.
No need to wonder..It always means less money for the MT and more money for MQ.
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Money, honey, money!!!!!!.
nm
Have you added in the other benefits

The company has great benefits that can add up to several thousand a year. Paid downtime. Paid holidays. Vacation/PTO starting the first year. No equipment rental fee. Big discount on word books. Rental library for medical education. Reimbursement for continuing education. Decent insurance. Might make a difference.


ICs don't have benefits, so you'll have to get
outside insurance.  I don't know of any insurance that will cover pre-existing conditions or if they do your premium will triple.  Go to e-insurance.com and you get rate quotes there.  You can also call insurance companies in your yellow pages that write health insurance policies.  BC/BS is one of the cheaper ones.  You might want to look into just a major medical policy, very high deductible, lower premiums, basically only good in the even of a catastrophic event.  You can also look into a medical savings account to see if you qualify.  
Whatcha got? Pay? Benefits? SM

How does your deal work?


Benefits Question
I am curious as to if anyone has found a company that pays benefits after 90 days.  I have heard horror stories of companies who don't.  Thank you for your input.
What are the benefits of IC status? nm

 





I would suggest only if you need benefits.
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Medware has benefits???
The only benefit I heard of was their paying half of self-employment taxes. They said they do not offer full-time employment; they offer statutory employment which means they offer one benefit--the full-time employment tax half-payment. Where do I find out about the medical, dental, etc. you mentioned?

Do you find BayScribe easy to use and to learn?

About how many lines per hour is your average? How many on a good day? I'm just wondering about what productivity people are REALLY having in the company, as opposed to what a recruiter might tell me.
Yes, they do offer benefits.
I wasn't aware that they hired SE or IC.  I was only offered FT or PT employee status with a set schedule.
I would take it just for the insurance benefits. sm
Those sound awesome. 
Be aware that your benefits will SM
likely be less than what you are getting now and more importantly, THEY WILL BE TIED TO WHETHER YOU MAKE PRODUCTION QUOTAS OR NOT.  Spheris has a rule where if you are not making your production quota for whatever reason you are placed on PART-TIME status and are not eligible for full-time benefits for something like 3 months.
Well then, you will be an IC. Are they taking away your benefits? nm
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hourly plus benefits sm
Not sure what they pay by the hour though.
If benefits are a concern...
I would just find an job working from home that offers benefits. My job allows me to make money by the line, and also as long as I work full time, I get benefits. As the other poster, I too like being able to work from home and not deal with traffic getting to work, gas, work clothes, eating out, putting children in childcare, etc. It saves me so much money this way.

Also, I have been doing this for six years, and I haven't known any of the doctors personally.