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My parents taught me that 2 wrongs do not make a right.....

Posted By: Let me make it quite simple on 2008-02-25
In Reply to: Puhleez, what exactly is the government doing about illegals crossing the border? - MissouriMT

I guess you didn't learn that, or worse you think that *makes* it all right. And people wonder what is wrong with the world these days? Your message pretty clearly outlines it, in my opinion. Working under another Social Security number, no matter WHO does it is wrong, wrong, and, oh yes, ILLEGAL!


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No, two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't want to be labeled a cherrypicker, too.  I do bring it to the account manager's attention.  If nothing's done about it and I'm not making any money, I quit.  I'm not doing the worst work for low wages while everyone else rolls in the dough.
However, two wrongs don't make a right.
they'll be around for a long time to entertain you as they have nothing better to do.
Shame on you! 2 wrongs dont make a right.
hook into your electricity without paying you just because she could.  Creative utilities?  Cheatiing the government is cheating me, you and every other citizen. If it is okay for her to cheat. let her confine it to sticking her hand in YOUR pocket, she can keep it out of mine.  What your g'mom think of you condoning this behavior?  Do you teach your kids to cheat on tests? 
Or in the case of our government, a million wrongs don't make it right, but ...

doesn't stop Uncle Sam from wronging us on a daily basis.  Look, the bottom line is I will do what I have to do to feed, clothe, and house my kids.  I don't feel guilty about finding shortcuts around the enormous mountains the government puts in my way nor should Doxie.  She's trying to take care of her grandkids so her kids can go to the middle east and serve their country and us all.  A woman's gotta do what a woman's gotta do.


You can call me a thief.  My conscience is clear.  My kids are healthy, well-fed, and have a home.  I give to charity, tithe to my church, and volunteer at the food pantry in my town.  I give back when I can -- not to the government, but to my community! 


I am not the only person in American who stives to pay as little taxes to the government as I can.  The government cheats us all.  Do two wrongs make a right?  I'm not trying to make a right, I'm just trying to survive.


We arent talking about the wrongs of the
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I agree; it was a decent mini-course. Maybe they're trying to right some old wrongs.
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Not all of us are parents. Not everyone had caring parents. nm,
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49 years old/self taught/daughter 20 years old/self taught. I'm a CMT, and daughter is studying t
take the test soon.
I wish someone had taught me..
To this day, I still feel uncomfortable and unsure about what to do. If only someone had taught me when I was young! Your boys are very blessed to have a thoughtful parent like you. 
I was taught to use two
and it is hard to change now. Most of my accounts use two, but I also have one account that uses ChartScript platform and I have noticed that it takes out the two and replaces it with one. And yes, I do think that over a period of time, it would make a difference in the line counts. However, that is the platform they use and I cannot change it. I get paid well anyway, so I am not complaining. Glad someone else noticed it though, I thought it was just my imagination
Some of us do, I was taught the same,
disc for back and disk for eye, however, I have to use disk for everything if I want to keep a job, among other asine rules per BOS.
yes it is accurate I also was taught sm
5 characters equal one word. Therefore, there are 13 words in a 65 character line.
Makes you wonder what they were taught in sm
high school, though I learned most of this in grammar school.
Proof as I go, was taught this way! nm
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Weren't you ever taught that if you
don't have anything nice to say to someone, don't say anything at all? You must like being rude and hateful, and I don't mean just YOU personally, I mean everyone who has to criticise and be rude.
Please let me know if wrong, but I was taught to
always put in the patient's name if a dictator said to instead put the patient. Now here years later we are told by the hospital and now we are told to put in the given name if dictated. I do VR, and I read word by word by word everything on all reports. We are also held to the 98% accuracy be it VR or straight.
I was taught by my mother that
if someone gives you a gift, say thanks even if you toss it out your back door. Some do not get even a $5.00 gift card. It is inappropriate to not be thankful for what you have, get or whatever. I did not get a $5.00 card from my company so the OP got more than me. I am not offended by the lack of a gift, does not bother me at all, I did not expect anything.
my 2-yr-old taught me or made me learn...
Left click and hold it down on the task bar and drag, still holding the left button down and drag it to the bottom and drop it.
Children understand what they are taught!
Kids are capable of understanding social situations like this, even at young ages.Adults need to give them more credit. Personally, from listening to the story, sounds like lots of families I know with 5 kids or more. They can get the attitude of entitlement someone else mentioned - their parents are always getting aid from the govt, or town, or churches, and so the kids naturally adopt the attitude of the parents - that they are entitled to everyone's stuff just because...I always go over the normal "rules" with my kids before they go over someone's house - say thank you to the mom, don't ask for anything to eat, be polite, etc. If they are going over and it includes eating, like invited for lunch, I give them the look before they leave and make them promise to at least attempt to eat something even if they don't like it, and to NEVER say they didn't like anything! Guess I'm teaching them to be wimps, huh?!
I was taught about this when typing psych (sm)
one of the doctors used to come into our office (typing pool) and tell us stories from the ER. He then explained what these guys (the majority of hamster/gerbil stories were from guys) would do to these poor little creatures. Gives me the creepy crawlies to think of what people do.
I've been MT for 17 years and was taught (sm)
that from the beginning. "Patient sent to Radiology" is "The patient was sent to Radiology." I remember covering it at AAMT meetings and training interns from the local college who were taught that also.
Here's my theory. We were taught to place nice.

Even if you hated the person and hated their ideas we were taught we needed to share and play nice.  Well here on boards and in chat rooms, you don't have to play nice and we can vent and rant and not have to suck it in. 


I believe it is healthier here on these boards than in real life where you need to smile in people's faces in the workplace, in the neighborhood or even in the family when you would rather tell them what you think at best and at the very worse give them a good old fashion A$$ kick and tell them to get out of your face with their BS..


Here you don't need to be phoney baloney and you can tell people exactly how you feel w/o repercussions.  And that's a good thing.


 


Ditto, ETMT. I was being taught plateform and
specifics of one account. Then, was hired PT (needed backup since working for nationls has some many uncertainties) so was learning that format and style preferences. Then, the national wanted to train me on a second account with a new platform. I requested not to be tained on the second account - I was overwhelmed with the two new accounts I was already being trained on and, call me stupid, but I can only absorb so much new information at a time. I saw it as a breeding ground for an error and well, we know what an error can do to our reputations. I just needed some time.

Yeah, I was taught the same thing in typing
some 30 years ago, but since my employer prefers it that way, then I will do it; after all, they pay me to do the job the way they want it. It doesn't mean I have to agree that it is correct, but that's just the way it is.
In your dreams. They are not taught how to dictate, nor do they care. sm
They, the doctors, barely get a 1 day course in prescribing medications, let alone dictating.  That is why we are medical transcriptionists.  If you thought it would be like it was on the SUM tapes, you are wrong.  This is the real world of doctors dictating.  For the one who laughed at the big bucks,  well maybe you don't make them, and maybe this is why.  If you can only do easy, clinic work, then you will never make it in this business.  That is the work that is easily done off-shore and by VR. 
Was taught in my program that all those eye words begin with
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We were taught Disc - eyes, Disk - back
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Blind boys are being taught MT now in Indonesia or someplace like that. Was
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My middle schooler is being taught the changes in typing class.
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I was taught two spaces in high school typing class
places want only one space. BOS (pg 66, 2nd Ed) says either/or but be consistent, and that it is usually is set by company/client, but I've definitely noticed that most MTSOs want only one space and that's how I always do it now.
My mother taught me to always "ignore the ignorant." The more attention you give her, the mor
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I have given my kids cell phones..and taught them how to press and hold the key to call me..so that
My kids are only 6, 8, and 9 and i used to think it was silly to give kids that age cell phones, but not anymore!!
i was taught opposite, lol, but then at another company they preferred all disc; wide varieties. n
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My parents use it
I can't help you with the pre-exisiting conditions question, but my parents use AARP for all of their insurance needs. They saved a lot of money when they switched and have been very happy with them.
I don't think that her parents did it, but I do think..sm

that they are covering up for the person who did it (maybe the brother).


To the poster that said the parents just let them go to
party and drink was sad.
My parents "spared the rod" and I'm now (sm)
a self-sufficient, responsible, mature adult, furthering my education, handling my responsibilities, and not calling home begging my parents for money. So just because some parents "spare the rod" doesn't mean their kids are going to turn out to be spoiled little bloodsuckers the rest of their lives. There are other ways to discipline kids without spanking. Yes, some kids need a good spanking once in a while, IMHO, but there are other forms of discipline that are equally as effective. Just my opinion.
Up to the parents, but they dont do it
Hey, I feel like this, the parents have the only ones who have a right to spank or otherwise discipline kids
I don't have issues with my parents are they are

both deceased, but I have "disowned" all my brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews.  I grew up believing I was the black sheep of the family and maybe I am, but their lives are so screwed up and I never heard from them unless they needed something and there was lots of bitterness and anger about various events - mainly my parent's death.  The only way I was able to deal with the issues was to disown them.  I was not interested in making things better because they aren't willing to make an effort and I just don't have time for that. 


My oldest sister hated my mom and was very ugly to her.  My mom did so much for her. All I heard was what a lowsy mother she was.  Well, my sister's daughter had a baby and gave it away, did drugs big time, drinking big time, has lived with several guys.  Her son is gay and can't hold a job, has had so many wrecks he has lost his license twice that I know of.  They just keep buying him vehicles very time he wrecks one.  He can barely make a move without having to ask mommy, is a druggie/drinker/liar.  Only my sister can't see all of this.   We all make mistakes and I don't claim to be a perfect parent, but.....


My parents are retired and
do very well on their savings. It's called preparation. People make their own choices. If you don't PREPARE and do not take RESPONSIBILITY, you will eventually be in such a sad situation. It's not anyone's fault but their own for making poor decisions or failing to make better ones.

Morally, yes - I think other aid should become available to the "mom and pop" situation you are talking about but not reporting and paying taxes on income? No. That is wrong, period.

My boys were taught to pay taxes on their incomes from various jobs. They paid taxes and they paid tithes on it, no matter what it was.

It's called DOING THE RIGHT THING...which seems to be a forgotten concept among the older ones and a brand-spanking new concept among the young ones.

Tax evasion, dear, is ANYONE who fails to report appropriately. They may spend the bulk of money going after big bucks tax evaders but the crime is still the same. It is dishonest and it cheats every loyal, law-abiding citizen.

It doesn't matter if the job is easy or or not (i.e., your reference to house cleaning not being easy). THat has nothing to do with whether a person deserves to report/pay taxes on their income or not.
I am a few miles away from there. SIL parents
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Parents just had them done at $5000 an eye. nm
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I never did think the parents did it. I'm glad they got him (nm)
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I think the parents should be held
responsible. I'm sure the rules are less strict for older kids (he is 16). But it seems a waste of time for the teachers if he is going to only show up part of the every week. He seems to think it is funny that he has really, really bad grades. Seems he is just wasting a spot at school and the teacher's time.
what a brave son (and parents)
How old was he when he did that?  He earned every penny it sounds like.  You couldn't pay me enough to get that close to snakes (shudder). 
My parents did it about 26 years ago - $20K then -sm
that was a 25,000 gallon, cement with plaster in-ground pool with heater, 2 blowers and skimmers, a swimout (a seat in the deep end), steps in shallow end, ladder in deep end with diving board, with a large cement patio area around the whole pool. Pool still in great shape though it does need to be replastered now (can see cement where it has worn thin). My dad just sold the house so its the new owner's issue now.
Take a look at who their parents are. Where's the blame now? nm
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If not my kid, then the parents need to step up
and take care of their own child. If I need to work, do not babysit period. I took care of my children when they were little and they can take care of theirs. No time to spare when working.
My parents both worked and over the summer they LET us go to

summer camp AND it wasn't cheap for them either.  Three kids going to camp 5 days a week (Thursdays were skate day), compare that to what that would cost today.  My brother, sister, and I were at camp from 8 AM to around 5 or so and yeah we were beat when we got home, but my folks made sure we weren't "latchkey" kids or running the neighborhood getting into who knows what kind of trouble.  My folks spent quality time with us, too, in the evenings, on weekends, holidays, and vacation, but they BOTH had to work to support us.  So, for the person who has unjustly persecuted CampMom, please try to be more considerate. 


P.S. I should also add that my siblings and I have some of the best memories of summer camp.  Did I say that I'm 42 years old?


 


 


For parents, what do you think of your kids' friends?

I am wondering if it's ME or if it's my kids' friends that's the problem.  I just can't stand barely any of them.  We have little sailors running around cussing, compulsive liars, thieves, two-faced "unfriends", blackmailers, anger management problems, slobs, and perverts running around here.  And the violent and graphically disgusting games these kids try to play.  Is this everywhere?  Or am I just overly sensitive?  Parents can't choose their kids' friends because the kids'll rebel against the control, right?  I just feel like I can't have anyone over here because I'm constantly correcting them and cleaning up after them.  They don't listen worth a darn anyway.  I certainly don't want my kids to go to their houses if these kids behave this badly here.


I tried going into details, but this post got so long.  I don't think it's our neighborhood either because we have to drive for playdates with some of these kids.  What, do we just attract the people with issues?  I try to tell myself that these are just kids or perhaps their home life isn't in line with the same value system as we have.  I try to be tolerant because some of these kids have had problems in their lives.  However, having problems is no excuse for bad behavior.  I'm no perfect prude and neither are my kids.  We've had our share of problems.  I also know I can't "shelter" my kids from the outisde world.  But geez, it's just ridiculous.  Whatever happened to the days when parents were parents and kids behaved?  Children should not be cussing, stealing and telling horrific stories of murder and incest.


To give you an example, one of these little punks even told the whole neighborhood that my husband and I were druggies and dealers.  We found out about it when our elderly neighbor came over and told us.  We've always been totally against drugs, not even experimenting with them when we were teens.  Plus, we both have to go through yearly drug screening tests at work, too.  What is with the world today?


To all you parents of student athletes - sm

My son came to me today to tell me he is quitting football.  A sport he has played since he was in the 3rd grade.  He is now a junior in high school.   He is an awesome offensive linesman - scholarship bound this year with academics with it.  He has a 4.0 GPA, takes AP courses and could have a scholarship coming his way.


Regardless of all of that, I am just heartbroken to see this young talented man just walk away from the game he once loved.  I have been crying all morning.  


He tells me, "it just is not fun anymore. "   He does not want to play.  He wants to concentrate on his academics.  


This is halfway through his camp, and games start next week.  He started on the varsity team as a Freshman.


I am so upset, but I won't let him see it.  I do not want him to play a sport to please me or anyone else, but himself.  I have to hold all of this in and it is killing me.      This is his decision, and I have talked to him over the past few days about, trying to not let him know how disappointed I would be if he quit.  Well, today, he went to camp and told his coaches he is not playing, handed his equipment in, and so forth.


Any advice from any of you parents out there for me as to how to handle it from a loving mother point of view!  I hide in the bathroom and cry so he doesn't see me.   For the simple reason, if he sees me crying, he will continue to play just for me.  I really don't want that.  He needs to play for himself.


Needless to say, the coach called this morning after he handed in his equipment to talk to him.  I am sure there are more calls to come.  His teammates will be over this afternoon after camp, I am sure of it.  How do I handle this - better yet, how do I help him handle this? 


P.S.  If he feels like he is letting his teammates down, he will give in and play just for them or for me -