More graveyard experiences
Posted By: CalmT on 2008-07-16
In Reply to: Is it difficult to adjust to the graveyard shift? - Texas Girl
I've worked graveyard before and will be starting again tonight. I've learned a few things from past experience that can help this time.
One is bright lights at night and blackout curtains during daytime sleeping hours. Another is turning off the ringer on the phone before going to bed, arranging with a neighbor who is generally home during the day to take true emergency calls from certain people and ring my doorbell if necessary.
I try to keep in mind that a lot of other people aren't readily available during the day or able to do what they like during the day because of work, either in or out of the home. I also remember how lucky I am to be able to work from home and not have to deal with a commute, among other things.
Give myself some unwinding time after my shift and then do the best I can to adhere to regular sleep hours that least interfere with regular activities outside of work. There will be times, of course, when I'll need to be flexible on the sleep hours to take care of things that must occasionally be done during the usual sleep hours schedule.
Accept that there will be days when the rest of the world will not be tip-toeing around because I want to sleep. Watch out for sleep-deprivation crankiness, try my best not to take it out on other folks, and apologize promptly if I do. It does help to explain the situation yet not use it as a recurrent or frequent excuse.
Make use of caffeinated beverages at the beginning of my shift and limit them toward the latter portion. Remember that power naps during breaks may work for other people but that the temptation to keep hitting the snooze alarm could be overwhelming for me. It was one thing when I was an IC, but not cool as an employee. Better for me is to something semi-active during breaks and make myself get up and stretch on a periodic, regular basis.
Keep in mind that it will take a little while to get used to the new schedule and see what sleep hours seem to work best for me through trial and error. I'm lucky that I have a natural tendency toward nightowlism.
Sorry for the length of this essay and best of luck to you! Would that there were a yawning smiley face...
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My experiences while working graveyard were (sm)
both good and bad: Bad: During the spring/summer months, I wanted to be out catching the rays and walking the beach, but my body kept telling me, "It's time to sleep." Additionally, my diet was a little off; eating a Stouffer's dinner at 3:00 a.m. just seemed out of order. Also, I started watching those Judge shows in the afternoons, thus, not putting the lights out until about 5 p.m., leaving me only about 5 hours to sleep -- not enough for this bod. That experience taught me that I am definitely a morning person.
Graveyard cake
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GRAVEYARD SHIFT
I totally disagree with this study, for multiple reasons. I agree with some of the posts, stating that it would depend upon if you are getting enough sleep, whether you work the graveyard shift or not. People working regular shift often get only a couple of hours of sleep, because they are out at bars all night, drinking, etc.
However, I work the graveyard shift, usually 11 pm to 6 am. I am working, while my husband is sleeping. Right after work, I go to bed, and sleep anywhere between 10 to 12 hours. Then, when my husband comes home, we have the whole evening together!
Also, do they take into consideration that many graveyard shift workers work in factory situations where they are exposed to lots of other things, like toxic chemicals, etc.? I read about it in the paper, too, and it mentioned that the increase in the cancer effect of the graveyard shift workers began in the 1930's, with the "industrial" boom --- what about those effects on cancer, not the time of day you do it.
I also feel that I can produce more in the same time frame doing MT at nite, with less stress of all the other noises of the day, and not having the phone ringing off the hook!
Graveyard Shift
It all depends on you. I don't think there's a set rule book. I have a major sleep "situation." It isn't a problem because it's been this way all my life. I never liked to sleep, and would still rather mow the lawn or just about anything besides sleep. Obviously the rest of the world thinks that's strange, but it's just how I got wired (pardon that pun!)... Many people say they got "x" hours of sleep. I look at it as whatever I got is what I got, if any. But I know that's not the norm for most.
There have been times when I've fallen asleep typing, but very rarely. There are also times when I stay up for 2 days straight, and still fight going to sleep.
Just give it some time and decide if you can do it. It's good that we all have different time clocks embedded in our bodies!
Good luck!
Working graveyard
Most people don't know how I do it. I work from 9:00 p.m. to about 4:00 and then up at 7:30 (8:30 now that it's summer). On Friday nights I don't work and I'm in bed by 8:00 p.m. And on the weekends I sleep in. My family is used to it and I've been doing it for so long I actually prefer it. No phones, no kids, no husband. I have also been known to fall asleep in the chair, but it doesn't happen too often. You'll get used to it. I'm not actually sure I even prepared in any way.
graveyard shift
I've found that my body just naturally adjusts over time if I work this shift consistently.
I worked graveyard before, and will now again.
This time though, I have a window of time, and can split shift, but I can tell you I am very scared about it. The last time I took graveyard, it was set hours, and I got through it, but switched back to days because I never slept, or took time for myself. But, there is not much work during the mornings, and I end up getting frustrated watching the children who are all under 10 years old, and scratching for work, and the whole situation. So, I am going to work 8 hours in 12 overnight. I am very scared but going to go for it for these reasons: 1. I am not lonely because everyone is at home but they are sleeping, so very few if any worries about anything other than working which is really less stress. 2. There will mostly always be work, so I won't have to worry about my paycheck or begging for work or worrying about the bill collectors. 3. DH is concerned too, but he knows how frustrating it is to scratch for work during the daytime when everyone else is on. He figures I work after I put the kids to bed, rest some, and then work in early morning hours. Then, I get another nap during the day when he gets home from work or during the school day when the kids are back in school. It is just this fear of mine about overnight I have to learn to get out of my head and remember, night means peaceful, quiet, work, a good paycheck, and naps during the day along with trips to the mall, or doing art or anything else during the day when the kids are back in school I can do just for me. I wish you luck. In the end do what is best for you. But if you run out of work during the day, or if you have other obligations while you are working in daytime, rethink which is really best for you. Good luck!
graveyard shift questions? HELP!! sm
for those of you who work the graveyard shift, when you initially started how did you get your sleep pattern to adjust? i did this for 2 nights and loved it!! i got sooo much work done without any interruptions and it was wonderful so i have decided that i would prefer to work at nighttime but i am having a hard time staying awake now through the night and by 1ish i am falling asleep. how did you get ahead on your sleep well enough to get you past the initial getting used to it? and do you keep that same schedule even on weekends or when you aren't working as far as sleep routine?
Kitchen appliance graveyard
In the midst of moving last weekend, I discovered my long forgotten kitchen appliance graveyard. All the cool gadgets that I thought I HAD to have at the time that have long since moved into that cabinet. I had three juicers dating back to the 80's, an ice cream maker, a sandwich maker, a George Foreman grill, a food dehydrator, and a the most recent one I got for Christmas, a smoothie maker. Oh the humanity! I have decided to resurrect some of them for fun and because I feel so guilty. How about you all ? Anyone suffer from this gadget collecting problem?
I work graveyard on weekends
I can't say there's any real way to prepare for graveyard shift other than going to bed earlier the night before, this way you are well rested for your shift.
I work day shift and evening shift Mon-Thurs, but come 3 pm on Friday, it's bedtime for me. I work graveyard shift on weekends, and I love it. I don't really have a problem adjusting my schedule, as I have massive sleep deficit accrued all week.
The problems that I do find are with:
Family not getting it through their heads that I wake/work early on weekends.
Deliveries (UPS, FedEx) normally take place during the hours I would be sleeping.
Phone usually rings during the hours I sleep.
Other than those outside factors, no problem for me adjusting back and forth between shifts.
questions for graveyard shift'ers
i'm seriously thinking of going from days to 3rd shift -- for money and to free-up daytime hours to manage other stuff better, without interfering with my job....but cannot figure when the best time would be to sleep -- do you sleep right after work, right before work, or when? How long might it take to adjust? I'm generally a morning person, early to bed, early to rise....I'd appreciate any advice at all. thanks.
Graveyard shift study results
I just had to put this here. This study came out about 2 days ago, and I did not find that anyone posted it here so I am going to comment on it. If this is redundant please excuse the double post. The other day on the news at 6 they reported that studies show that there is a new risk for developing cancer which could lead to an early grave... working the graveyard shift (punny). Anyway, they said that because it goes against our biological clock, we produce less of a certain brain chemical when we sleep at night and this chemical helps our body fend of carcinogens (I forgot the chemical). Do you know the American Cancer Society is seriously considering putting third shift workers on the list as being high risk for cancer? Can you imagine? What is this, a way for the insurance companies to have an excuse to deny us night owls insurance or to make the rates higher? I think it is hilarious because I personally never do anything risky. I work at home as an MT after all, I do not lead a risky life in the least. Now, because I work nights so I can be a mom during the day and do everything supermom should do I am going to have cancer... what next?
Is it difficult to adjust to the graveyard shift?
 What is the best way to prepar for this.
If you want the good stuff, work GRAVEYARD, or
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My experiences are like yours..
I've done - and do - the same thing you do. The difference is your docs treat you well. Mine treat me like yesterday's newspaper, but in the big scheme of things, it doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that I get my invoices paid on time, which they are.
My hubby tells me even though my docs don't say so, they do appreciate me because they send me checks every month. And that's why I'm in this business - for the monthly checks - no other reason - .
I don't want docs calling in to dictate and instead cracking jokes and telling me what their kids did the other day. The fact of the matter is I don't care. I look at that as taking up my precious time! Wanna' chitter-chatter with me, doc?? Then let's chitter chatter at a cocktail party or dinner, but don't do it on my company time/dime. Hehehe! 
Bad QA experiences
At a previous MTSO we were, also pretty much on our own until an account executive (never an MT)took it on herself to start doing QA and started sending us corrections. She actually wanted us to listen to a sentence then make it more concise, and to use as many abbreviations as possible. This was an ESL physician. I told her to get real. I did agree to conform to her bizarre style issues, and said I would correct grammar, but I would absolutely never deliberately do anything that took that much extra time and reduced my lines. I talked to my supervisor and that put an end to that.
very well said. my experiences exactly, as well.
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I have a lot of the same experiences you do -
I am not afraid to go out, but it just does not seem worth the effort to get up and get dressed and made up just to go to the grocery store... I, like you, am only happy going out with my husband. It is causing a big strain on our relationship as I feel that since he is out of the house all the time, that when I want to go with him he should always take me everywhere he goes. He thinks I should just get up and get out of the house on my own. He does not realize that working at home for so many years I have been isolated and, especially since we moved to a new town, I don't know anybody and since we have no children for sporting events, school events, etc., I really have no way to meet people. We have finally moved into an area after 4 years that has a community pool and I have met some people there, but it remains to be seen if a friendship develops with any of them.
I used to think that working at home was wonderful, and don't get me wrong, there are many benefits to it, but I also feel like mentally it is not really a good thing for a lot of people. I have a relative who also works at home and she is just like me - not only mentally, but physically we are suffering. The weight gain for one thing - the lack of sunshine, the lack of exercise, etc.
I myself have finally made the choice after 15+ years to return to school and get a degree that will allow me once again to leave my home and still make the income that I am accustomed to as a transcriptionist.
My similar experiences.....
First, I'm sorry about this loss, but you must NOT dwell on it. You must move forward for your sake and financial sake. This is unfortuately such common behavior in this business, and reading your post did not surprise me. I have been an IC for over ten years now, and the practice you describe is SO common.
I have learned throughout the years to set aside as much money as I can so that when the rug is pulled out from underneath me, I'll have $$$ to fall back on. I also keep a supply of hundreds of stamps/letterhead/envelopes handy so that when this happens, I don't have to go broke buying this stuff and marketing for other clients.
Basically the same thing has happened to me. I just lost one client last month due to them finding a cheaper rate, and another account I have had for eight years is going EMR next month. I will then be officially out of business, you might say.
But that is NOT going to keep me down. I'm doing mass marketing to doctors, attorneys and all kinds of businesses who need "virtual transcriptionists," and you know, I feel if I market enough, the law of averages is going to be that I WILL find new clients. You must have faith in yourself and do not take what happened to you personally. Yeah, it was lousy, rude, and unprofessional of them not to give you any notice after years of good service, but what can you do? Don't lose a wink of sleep over it - move onward and forward, and you will be successful.
Good luck!
Anyone with experiences to share sm
I don't suppose anyone has ever worked for both companies and can give me the real scoop?
Need input from all you "night owls" working graveyard shift!
I am considering working nights, since it seems that's where the pay is higher. Do you go to bed in morning after your shift ends, or do you stay awake for a couple of hours, and go to bed, say 10 or 11 am. How many hours during the day do you sleep; or do you just take a nap in the morning, and go to bed around 6 or 7 p.m. and sleep until it's time for your shift to start? Input on getting a balance, and staying awake during shift. I worked that shift for a while in the past, but never could balance it out. It seems I was always sleeping and had no time to do anything else, other than sleep and work. Thanks
Disagree...ESLs tend to dictate graveyard shifts....nm
I had similar experiences after my mom died (sm)
On my mother's birthday, after she died, the smoke alarms went off in my house. They were not in need of new batteries, nor was there even a hint of smoke in the house.
They continued to go off at different occasions, each of which was a "special day," either a birthday or a holiday that she enjoyed.
My mom was in marching band when she was in HS and pretty much made me follow in her footsteps. It was okay, but not a decision I would have chosen. My daughter inadvertantly, through a scheduling glitch ended up in marching band her first year of high school. She ended up loving it. At sleep-away band camp the following year, in the chaparone's quarters (where I was sleeping), the smoke alarm went off during the night. It was kind of funny though, because it went off in another chaparone's room and I didn't even hear it. The other chaparone told me about it the next day and what she went through to get it to stop (basically had to beat if off the wall). When she told me, I just smiled and said, "Oh, that was my mom, she just got the wrong room."
I always thought how proud mom would have been that my daughter ended up in band and even ended up being the drum major her senior year and what a difference it made in her life.
That was the last I've heard of mom.
I'm a strong believer in God, but somehow I think it's possible that those close to us have "ways" of letting us know they're still loving us, even though they have a strange way of showing it! Kind of like when they were alive LOL! ;-)
goes to show how much our experiences out here vary... Everyone comes from a different POV
I have had similar experiences with a company
doing that. Its the purpose of the production emails - to shame you into boosting your production to keep up with the others - whether the others are actually real or not has always been a matter of speculation to me....But you are feeling exactly what the sender wants you to feel! Terrible tactics to me, but works for some.
My experiences with home offices...
I used to have my office in the living room. It was really difficult for me and my family.
I moved it into the dining room ... again, was just a bad fit and crowded/cramped everything.
Finally I moved it to my bedroom. Now at first, I had my desk sitting out in the open and it became depressing. While I enjoyed the privacy and quiet (I could actually shut my door), it was all I saw when I was in my bedroom. That blank monitor staring at me, either making me feel guilty by not working more or making me dread going to work.
Soooo, then I got creative and I've been thrilled every since.
I pulled all of my clothes out of my closet and bought a beautiful armoire with drawers and a rod in the top to hang clothes. Beautiful asset to my bedroom.
I purchased a smaller but very nice desk and fit it right inside my closet. I have a lovely little lamp on my desk, streamlined all my paperwork to a minimum and put as much as I could live without (in tangible form) on the computer. Have a small vase I keep fresh but cheap flowers in. All I have is in the closet and I can close it up out of sight when I am done. I can store my books up on the shelf above plus I have a small CD player up there to play soft music while I work.
I did not want an ugly office chair anymore. I really liked my upholstered chair in my bedroom. So I had my son put rollers on it and now it is my chair. When I'm not working, I just turn it and angle it into the corner like it has always been...when I need to work, I just sit and slide right under my desk.
I could not be happier with this set up and it has been this way just over a year now.
It's funny how people have different experiences (sm)
Three of the best doctors I ever got to transcribe were podiatrists. We did clinic notes for one and did the op notes at a small freestanding surgical center for the other two. They were all great, lots of repetition, clear, lots of lines. Those were the days....
What other experiences have you had with clinic work.
I have worked for 3 local companies (including current)and this is how it is mostly done locally. The alternative was with no patient list and guessing at how the name is spelled because physician did not spell it. I do have all my addresses in a Word file, and if it used once it goes in there. For physician office accounts how do your experiences differ? The physicians are very resistent to investing in equipment on their end. It is difficult enough to get them to change from tapes to a digital recorder. I do agree that this system of doing things is awkward for the MT (me). I was just wondering what alternatives there are in dealing with clinic accounts, since is this is what constitutes the majority clients of companies I have worked for, and who I have worked for directly myself. I knew I was not making as much money as many of you. I guess this is one of the reasons.
As you can see, experiences vary very widely SM
But--It's the future, so leap in! Figure out every way technology can do the work for you much, much faster. Start programming your corrections into your Expander from day 1. All of them. Not just a few main phrases, but virtually every word within them and every possible variable. Program in all your punctuation corrections. Like changing ". He " to ", he" and vice versa within at most 3 keystrokes. You'll do it all day long.
It's true people are making less in general these days, but any time I hear of people still being able to support themselves fairly acceptably I pretty much know they're still typing out most stuff out the looong way. Alllllllllll of it alllllll day looooong...... That's really sort of analogous to people who refused to learn word processing, insisting on staying with Selectrics and Liquid Paper. Back then, like now, we upgraded our skills or went broke.
And if you don't already, practice reading fast until you get that skill up there. There's a lot of reading to this.
Don't bother fussing about what a mess VR can make of some dictation. All that counts is what income you can make from cleaning it up. (Tho skimming through reports that just need a slight buffing IS a pleasure.)
My last thought is that this business is in flux, and it's true some companies are not paying equitably for this work. Yes, a greatly increased pool of skilled workers for each good job does mean pay has gone down for MT overall, but if you feel you're producing fairly well compared to others in your position and your income still has dropped signficantly over what you earned doing transcription, you need a better company. OTOH, if you've worked hard at developing these new skills and can't seem to do decently, it may no longer be the field for you. Either way, plan on being ready to move on if necessary. Don't wait many months to figure it out. Best wishes!
Travel to Florida/Disney - experiences?
We are planning a trip to Florida for the Daytona 500 in February - we are having problems lining up a hotel in the Orlando area that includes suites with kitchenettes and also has shuttle service to the major parks in the area. We want something in the mid range, maybe 3 star or 4 star, and will only have 2 tweenagers traveling with us - the rest will be adults. Can anyone recommend a place to stay with some atmosphere, pool area, restaurant, etc.?
We've been there before when our kids were young and stayed in very basic motels which was fine. We hardly spent any time at the motel anyway. This time, with some going to the NASCAR race, there will be down time for others, so a nice pool/outdoor area would be a plus.
This is a place to come where MTs can share their thoughs and experiences
I'm one of those MT who's very miserable right now, I admit that, because I've been looking for a good company to work for as an IC for a very long time now.
I'm glad there are other MTs out there who are happy and content and able to pay their bills, but for the time being (the last few months), I haven't had that luxury, and I need help, whether it be a good job lead or just the camaraderie of other MTs who really can relate to my situation right now.
Here I sit, ready, willing, and able to work (and work HARD and long) while the company I've been with since the beginning of the year keeps telling me they've run out of work. Meanwhile, I've been searching for another job, seems like for AGES, but even if I'm lucky enough to actually get a response, nothing has panned out for one reason or another.
My apologies for ruining the mood again. I'm just thankful to have this place in both happy and miserable times, because unlike others in my "real life" who keep telling me to get a REAL JOB (uggghhh!!!), this place is frequented by other MTs who really do understand.
By the way, I have 15 years experience and do multispecialty clinic and hospital work (except ops), if anyone's looking for a dependable, reliable, hardworking IC MT. I will do ops, too, if anyone wants to give a noob a shot at them..
Thankful for this board.
It goes both ways. Not all those with positive experiences are skilled or professional.
Some are in it for the referral bonus, some are company recruiters posting anonymously. It's really hard for anyone to tell the motives, but you can usually tell from the way a person posts who is on the up and up from those who are just spewing sour grapes and those bucking for the referral bonus. I tend to believe negative posts that don't personally insult other posters over positive posters that completely rule out any type of problem. If a person is saying that their company is perfect and there are NO problems, that should send up red flags.
Go to eopinions.com and read the personal experiences. I was not impressed.
As I recall, there were numerous people who had such extreme swings in their electrolytes that they ended up hospitalized. Be very careful.
I've had nothing but excellent experiences working with wives as OMs.
:)
Anyone have any GOOD experiences with a credit counseling service/
If so who were they and what did they do?
TO the person who emailed me about their experiences on the multispecialty clinics, etc.
I tried twice to respond to your email and help but it keeps coming back undeliverable.
??
I would like to hear about personal experiences with lumbar supports
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People are just telling their experiences, stating their opinions.
It's only normal.
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