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Missing girl in Aruba

Posted By: Sarah MQ'r on 2005-07-05
In Reply to: Here's my thoughts....sm - My2cents

Here in the midwest, we recently had a "found college girl", seven years after she disappeared from Texas, and was presumed dead. Turns out, she and her parents had a huge blow-up over a boy, she took off, never to be heard of again....UNTIL, somehow, someone saw her picture in the very same Wal-Mart she had been working in for 5 yrs! She still did not want to talk to her folks, but they since have made small inroads into reuniting


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    missing girl
    I did miss some of it, but if the missing girl was the man's daughter, then she was alive.   His daughter  was the one at the beginning with the ring in her nose.  Maybe someone else who saw the whole thing can fill in the details.
    her place. The girl has been missing now

    for 40+ days and there are evidently no clues whatsoever, no blood, no body, no real evidence - at least from what I have heard from the media.  I think I would be screaming too, regardless of the country/government.


    The reason there is so much publicity is because Aruba's livelihood is tourism and they are afraid people will stay away.  I don't think the parents having money has anything to do with it.   We don't life paycheck to paycheck, but we aren't living easy either and I'd fight with everything I had in me to get my child back and I'd use any possible resource I could.  


     


     


     


    They found the missing girl from Idaho, whose
    mother and 2 others were killed, and they couldn't find the 2 kids. I'm watching FOX now about it. The little boy was not found but the girl was found alive at a Denny's in the same town she was missing from.
    48-years-young, single, 3 kids, 9 girl, 12 boy, 15 girl nm
    X
    You go girl! You go girl! Loved your response!
    Wooo hooo!!! 
    Aruba
    Yes, she is an American, but she is an American missing in a foreign country. Just as we have to abide by the rules of another country's government, when in that country, the same holds true here.
    There is an excellent team of volunteers from Texas in Aruba, the FBI also is on the island. I've heard on CNN that there have been cases of young,female tourist being kidnapped in Aruba, then shipped not to far to Venezuela, to be held to work as a prostitute.
    In that case, then we'd have to tell yet another government, that we followed the trail to your country and now our agents will be moving in
    We are the greatest nation on earth, but we do not have the right to just force our way into another country and demand they do things our way
    FBI in Aruba
    Do you have any clue as to how many born and bred American citizens, under the age of 21, many under 15, our precious children, who have been taken by their parent, who is of another nationality, kidnapped from their custodial parent and wisked away to a foreign country by the other parent?
    This usually occurs when the idiotic courts give visitation to said parent, knowing full well they are a flight risk, yet duh...."trust they won't do anything stupid"

    As of 6 months ago, there were 2138 children born in the US, American citizens, that have unwillingly been taken to a foreign country, leaving their custodial parent caught in this catch 22 of trying to get their child back

    The Hague Convention specifically prohibits this action, has rules to force the other country to return these children, yet the custodial parent is often left to hire Soldiers of Fortune to go in, stake out the country, living area, school where these children are, then they attempt to do what our country, the country that SHOULD be bringing these children home, fail to do! This should automatically be done, yet we have to try to argue "diplomatically" all the while these kids are kept from their parent the courts gave custody to. It's not cheap to hire a hit squad to get your kids back, it cost's thousands of dollars to do so.

    In my opinion, the USA/FBI/CIA/ SECRET SERVICE all should be concentrating on THESE innocent victims a bit more than a young 18 yr old that made a bad judgement.
    Where is the face time for the mothers or fathers of these children...the media won't give it to these kids, unless it is deemed worthwhile, and IMHP, each and every one of these children is worthwhile. It's just such an overwhelming thing to go through...I know, my nephew is somewhere in Saudi Arabia, growing up now for 3 yrs thinking his mother is dead or did not want him
    ARUBA CASE
    The parents had to known she was going to drink in Aruba. Why would these 17 and 18 years want to go of course to drink or they could have went to Florida instead. Even though this girl made bad judgement if she drank to much and went off with these guys this did not have to happen. We need to blame who ever did this. If my 18 year old wanted to go to Aruba I would probably say yes but lecture her a head of time. I know my 18 year probably drinks in college but I told her I don't want to know this. What I do not see I don't have to worry about it. I have no control of her when she is in college but she is not allowed to drink in our house or anyone elses until she is 21. I have a feeling that her body has been thrown in the ocean. The whole situation is so so sad.
    perhaps you should go to Aruba and help with the investigation (nm)

    Speaking of Aruba....
    You are EXACTLY right. Good post. We're both going to be crucified for this.
    Any thoughts on the case in Aruba?

    Little by little they are losing ground.  Commentator was saying that even if the last person to see her alive was Joran, the 17-year-old still in jail, they can't prove anything.  Maybe they fell asleep on the beach and when he woke she was gone.  Commentator said that if after all this time they could not break a 17-year-old and get a confession, with his two friends and father in jail, there is a possibility that he did not do it. 


    PS:  I think her mother should go home instead of second-guessing the government over there.  She is convinced the three are guilty with the father as an accomplice.  How do you come to that conclusion with sureness?  That's kind of like some foreigner over here coming over and if something were to happen to them and they disappeared after a night of drinking and last being seen with a stranger, his parents come over and criticize our legal system because we can't PROVE foul-play.  Just a bit over-the-top for a mother who should be grieving the loss of her daughter instead of criticizing the authorities.  Hey and another thing, how about criticizing the chaperones who lost contact with the daughter and did not discover she was missing till she failed to show up at the airport!!


     


    I was just in Aruba -very nice island

    Aruba is just like any other tourist destination where as long as you stay in the tourist areas, do not wonder off into the downtown areas at night and practice basic street-smarts, then there is no need for alarm and it is just as safe as any other place. I went to Aruba last month and we had a nice stay but I also went there years ago when I was about 16 w/my friend and her family. Of course we drank our little hearts out but we stayed in the hotel area and never wandered off. I will admit that we were harrassed by locals a bit (and I think it was because we were so young) but we ignored them and ALWAYS stayed together- we used our street smarts!!


    It sounds as tho this young girl did not have as much street smarts as you or I.  I would never  leave with guys I just met by myself even if I were at a bar in my hometown area, nevermind in another country! It is common sense but unfortunately this young girl didn't know any better, or for whatever reason maybe she thought that she was safe with these boys and she probably thought they were just regular kids just like her & her friends. It is very sad that she possibly had to pay the ultimate price for what she thought was just an innocent mistake.


    We as parents try to protect our children from so much, but at the same time, I think sometimes we are so focused on keeping the evil of the world out, that we possibly make our children more vulnerable.


    So you are educated in the laws of Aruba? Wow.
    I sound like I have lack of knowledge about this case, as does Mrs. Twitty.  So, I guess me and Mrs. Twitty should look to you for explanations and answers as to where her daughter is and what happened to her?  Do you have some inside info the rest of the world is not privy to?  I'm just wondering because if not, you are blowing a lot of hot air around and basically just about as uneducated about the laws and the evidence surrounding this case as the rest of us.
    Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
    are different than U.S.  Father said "no body, no crime" because he knows in their system if they have no body, they have no crime. Therefore, they have to find a body...or they can't prosecute for murder.... Their laws, not ours.  That is what it is when you travel outside the country, you are under the foreign country's laws.. Really too bad but that is how it is.
    Aruba is not as well equipped to handle this situation (sm)

    as the U.S. is...so therefore, if they are in over their heads, THEY should ask for the U.S. to help, period! That is a resort country, equipped basically to show tourists a good time, and not to handle a missing American case! See my point?


    I don't know how you can take off for weeks at a time with all your close relatives and go to Aruba
    and not be wealthy.  Could you?  Indefinitely?  You and your husband?  And her husband said they may buy a house there if necessary because the mother is not going home w/o Natalee.  So assuming that resort island property is not cheap, they can afford to buy a house in Aruba?   Can you?
    Chandra Levy's parents said the same thing. It's not about Aruba.
    It's about the parents.  Be mad as hell if you want to.  Blame Aruba.  But do it quietly.  Because if the parents knew ANYTHING, they would catch the perpetrator.  They know nothing but just spout accusing everyone of illegal activity just as you do.  I do know Aruba and not everyone is related to everyone and there is a blend of nationalities just as Joran is Dutch and the two boys with him were obviously a different nationality.  To oversimplify the situation by calling everyone crooked and criminal in Aruba is insane.  Perhaps Natalee did some drunk swimming and everyone else in Aruba who has lived life nicely on this pleasant island and never killed anyone before are being falsely accused.  Consider that.
    Speaking of Aruba and Natalle Holloway from post below
    It looks like the Arubans are forming a protest of their own who are offended at Mrs. Twitty and the media reporting they are not conducting a proper investigation and their system is bad while America's system of law and order allowed the sex offenders kill children in Florida and Idaho.  The Aruban people have a point you know.  One news person interviewed protestors and a very literate gentleman suggested Mrs. Twitty was under Aruban law and she should respect that or go home.  In a short statement Mrs. Twitty seems to be backtracking after the protests after Mrs. Twitty stated the legal system allowed criminals (the two brothers) to go free and walk among its citizens and tourists.  It's about time these people speak out when Americans come over and criticize their government without a clue how it works or if it is working.
    Again, there are professional American search teams in Aruba.
    Nobody knows the terrain of the island better than the native Arubans.  Together with advice from the FBI, the search team from Texas and the hundreds of Arubans who do know the island they are doing what they can do.  They do not need the hysterical rants and accusations from Mrs. Twitty
    Thank you! Do you know if the missing
    girl was alive or not?  I sure hope so. 
    What's missing?
    I haven't noticed any that are missing.
    Am I missing something?
    Where does it say that Amphion is using Interfix to send work overseas? As I read it, Amphion has used this company which HAPPENS to be branching out to Trinidad and Tobago, but I see nothing that connects the two. The statements in bold don't say anything except InterFix has helped Amphion interface more effectively.
    Am I missing something here? sm
    Employees pay their own taxes just like independent contractors. The only additional tax the IC pays is the employer's 50% portion of FICA which, if I remember correctly, is 7.5%. I fail to see why so many are under the impression that as an employee the employer 'pays' their taxes. I've been an IC for 2 years now and have seen my taxable income decrease due to the numerous deductions I'm eligable for. (We have an accountant do our taxes for us, whose fee is a business expense/tax deduction/overhead item - whatever it's called. That's why I use an accountant!) Lately it seems that many are opting for employee status, which is fine, but I'm not sure that an accurate picture is being given of the ICs gross vs net income.
    Missing your dad....
    I can't say I know what your going through, because I don't, but I wanted you to know that I read your message and I am so sorry. Do you have any grief counseling in your area you could attend or a pastor at your church you could talk with? I'm 45 and my dad is 71 and I know that day could come at any time for me too. Hang in there WIMT. Are you in Wisconsin? I am too. If you need someone to just talk to you can feel free to contact me, just give me your email address and I'll e-mail you directly. I'd be happy to listen if you need me.

    LB
    Went missing
    Does it bother anyone else that TV shows, news reporters and newspapers are saying "He went missing last week..." Shouldn't it be "He has been missing since last week...?"  I've asked friends and family, but they don't notice.  I figure transcriptionists are more aware of grammar than regular people.  It makes me crazy when they talk about someone "going missing."  They're not going anywhere, they're just plain missing!!
    missing
    I first heard someone on a local news station say it last year.  Now I hear it everywhere?  Where did that phrase come from?  I guess I "went missing" when that phrase was invented.  Irritates me too.  Oh, and so does Nancy Grace whether she is saying went missing or anything else.
    I'm missing something
    If you billed April in May, shouldn't you have received the money from when she helped you?

    And did you have a contract set up with her.

    I would just pay her the $100.
    What am I missing?????
    What's the deal with someone going out of town? or not letting the employer know??  Is this person an IC or an employee?  and why is it that so many "employer's" do not understand that they cannot dictate hours of work to an IC?  maybe this is the case?  I know I have dealt with plenty like that.  Perhaps, I am wrong - I know I missed something somewhere in all of this.
    Maybe I'm missing something here.

    "...my WAV pedal is acting in the same manner - tap the pedal to listen and tap it to stop the dictation." That's how mine works so what do you want to do differently? How did it work before?


    you bet I do, but you are missing sm
    the point. I think knowledge and experience should pay a whole lot more. My point is if you do learn all you can and can do every kind of report type and do it with an excellent report then you will not have the problem of not being able to make any money when the companies are only paying 8 cpl. The pay is not going to get better anytime soon. I know there is the exception to the rule and the companies, mostly smaller companies, who pay more but there are so many larger companies that are paying the 8 cpl. Personally to do OP reports all day long I think I should be making 15 cpl! Wouldn't that be nice but it isn't happening and I am perfectly ok making 8 cpl and doing what I do for now. Its better than no job at all.
    I may be missing something, but I'm
    //
    where would you be if your daughter was missing (sm)
    in another country?  The posts on down the board are appalling, some of them anyways!  I would hope that any parent in their right mind would be right there, no matter where "there" is, if their child were missing.  I know I'd be whereever I had to be.  I could not rest until I was there, waiting and helping to find my child.  I'd go to the ends of the earth to get my daughter back, no questions asked.  And maybe people are donating money to them so they can stay in Aruba and help find their daughter, as well as keep their lives going back here at home.  Where has compassion gone? It's truly sad that we ridicule people for simply wanting desperately to find their lost child.  Just Sad.
    Me neither! Ha! We must both be missing something! Maybe we should try the warm
    milk? Blech...sounds gross! Actually, I'm just getting rolling now - my morning - so am having coffee! If I were to have sounded irritated, certainly my irritation would be 100% to the dang fool recruiter who pulled this "faux paus" on the poor woman in the first place. Now, if you want to get me irritated, just get me yamming about recruiters...currently my FAVORITE people in our industry...I can't find the appropriate face-thingie to express pure disdain....How about, PEW!!
    missing lines
    I have had lines missing and they always pay me on the paycheck.  It never shows on my lines but when I get paid it is added to my lines.
    They are the same thing or else I am missing something.
    The music is nice, the pictures are nice but what in the world is the message?  Not worth the time...sorry.
    Missing The Word "A"
    Hi. Please tell me that missing the word "A" (as you did) didn't actually cost you points on a QA review!! EEK!!!
    Our cat, who has been missing since April
    He is a little thin, but otherwise looks to be in good shape.  The best news is our new dog (stray -somebody dumped her on the highway by our house) who loves people/hates every other living creature, just walked up to him, sniffed him, and paid absolutely no more attention to him. It's a good day
    missing 1099 - what to do??
    Ok, it's now near the end of February and I'm still missing a 1099! I've notified the company, but they just said it was sent out and weren't any help. The amount was over $10,000, so I obviously need to report it. How do I go about reporting it without a 1099? Do I need to report the company to the IRS? Anyone out there with their own service, what do you do when someone doesn't receive their 1099? Can you just send them a copy or do you have to completey re-do it? I remember reading something about the form having some barcode or something in it so the IRS can scan it, so does this mean you can't just send a copy?? Thanks for any help!
    Missing dictations
    I also get a patient list from the doctors office. I check off which ones I got voice files for, i.e. which ones I typed. I don't keep track of which names or not checked off. How do I know if that patient just didn't show up for the appointment, walked out without being seen, or if the doctor put off dictating. That's administrative work that the doctors' secretaries do at my client's office. If they can't find something they think he dictated and ask me to look for something or check on something I'll do it because it only takes a few minutes but I don't do all the stuff you're doing.

    I think you are missing her point
    I don't think it's about the money. I think it's about priorities. Should the MT think about her needs in her last few weeks or the company's needs? I think the poster was implying that she was doing the company a favor by training others on her accounts, and was it worth it to think of the company rather than her own needs. You are being short-sighted in your reply.
    You are missing the point
    If you go to a session WITH him and have the counselor hear your problem, she/he can help the two of you work it out.

    It's like calling him out in a nice way - the counselor will make him address the issue and you won't be forced to choose avoid contact he probably really needs.
    Missing the point.

    If the IC accepts the work, then it is expected that the IC will do the work. Don't take on something that you can't do. Period.


    If the IC takes the work, then later calls and says they can't do it, that puts the company in a bind. Sure, the company will solve their problem but don't blame the company for the IC's personal problems.


    I'm not missing the point.

    An IC is just that, and the company is EXPECTING her to type.  This is wrong of the company, not the IC.  The IC has a right being self-employed to refuse a job.  If anything, learn to stay away from companies who hire IC's, but treat them like employees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Eliminate the IC and make them an employee if you have such a proble with an IC REFUSING WORK THAT SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO.  Maybe in the morning, the IC could do the work, and then maybe another account that pays more needed her, which is really no business of the other company that she gives the work back to why she cannot do it. 


    I cannot believe the nerve of some people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is wrong, wrong, and wrong no matter how you slice it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    1 pt for missing space.
    Don't EVER leave out a space after a colon.  Did you know that was worth a point?  Sheesh.  I got a 96% on a 33 line report by missing a space after a colon. 
    So do you have the missing notes??
    If you have the missing notes then someone is misplacing them and you simply charge them a re-printing fee.    Are you doing digital and delivering back or do you pick up tapes?   If they want more delivery back, charge a delivery fee.  You can make it work if you want to but they will have to pay for the time you are putting into the work.   If you feel someone at the clinic is doing your work, explain that also.   Good luck. 
    Missing Notes

    I have that problem once in a while and my doc and I got into an argument about it once. I knew he didn't dictate the notes, but he kept telling me he puts a check mark on the notes he does dictate. 


    I've been with this doc since 1995 and I have a phone in system, so if he dictates them, they're transcribed. If he doesn't dictate them, then he didn't do them.


    Well, for how busy he is, if he put the check mark on the note PRIOR to dictating, then gets called away for a patient or starts to fall asleep while dictating (which he has done already), it could very easily be overlooked. What aggravates me is that he makes me type Re-dictation on any notes he says he did before but didn't.


    Also, I have found that since the last secretary left, there aren't as many "missing notes" as before. Hm-m-m-m. That tells me something. I can understand if I put a blank for the patient name (no list to follow and if it's a new patient or can't understand Speedy Gonzalez, then those notes could very well be thrown away if they can't verify the patient.


    I don't print the notes or hand deliver them anymore. We use PCAnywhere, and the notes are in one file with the dates of the notes dictated, which I transfer directly to his computer, so they print them out on their end. I have the notes and so do they, so if they are missing a note, all they have to do is check their files to see if that note is there. If not, then he didn't do it.  End of argument.


    This has worked out great for me, but for you, well, I'd think twice about keeping a job with that much aggravation. Find another account.


     


    P.S. - and also, I have had missing notes too
    dictation system by the doctor when they dictate.  So instead of coming to your pool, it ends up somewhere else.  And someone in the hospital ends up getting it and, not being sure what it is (or maybe knowing but welcoming the easy work), they transcribe it.
    Yes I did but I am missing the main
    xx
    missing WP5.1 file-help, please!

    I recently started a part-time job which uses WP5.1.  After it had been sitting in my computer unused for 2 years, I opened it up and got an error message;  file keys.wpk missing.  I have old floppies somewhere with the program backed up.  If I found this file on the floppies, how would I go about putting it back in, and where would it go? 


    Thanks. 


     


     


    Ummm..Am I missing the significance of something here? So, they get 20 cpl? Is there something
    Good for them - good for all of them. I've dabbled in UMDNJ dictators, and you couldn't pay me 30 cpl to do it! Yuck.