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Posted By: Passin' through... on 2005-09-02
In Reply to: With a $ sign, yes it is...without, it... - Math teacher...
you'll work for .0725 cents a line, you're hired! 
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You're math is correct. It is obvious
the new plan is designed to reward high producers. There's no away around that fact. If you currently do 1200 lines a day and you want to earn incentive on the new plan, you will have to either get faster for the same hours you work now or restructure your work days to be longer and get more production.
I think everyone has the idea that a new plan means that everyone is going to benefit and that everything is going to automatically be better and improved for all. Not true.
MQ has changed their pay and benefits plan to better increase their revenue. They were not making changes to harm nor help MTs, necessarily. These are business decisions. This is now what they are offering for pay and benefits and we can take it or leave it.
Personally, I believe they want fewer employees, all high producers, and it would be cheaper for MQ to have a smaller workforce of high-producing MTs and pay them overtime than an abundance of low to mid-range producers. This plan will help ensure some of that.
Regardless of what some of the mealy mouths say on this board about me, I am not happy with the way this plan impacts all MTs. Not at all. I'm just not going to be upset about it because every single one of us do have options and those who feel uneasy about this plan should heed their intuition and explore other options.
I think this is the beginning of a slow attrition among the MT workforce.
This is strictly my opinion.
What about Gen-Y? Try being a teacher.
Excellent article below;does not bode well for our future.
Also article about overweight, under-educated military recruits: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/20/struggling_for_recruits_army_relaxes_its_rules?mode=PF
For once, blame the student
By Patrick WelshWed Mar 8, 7:08 AM ET
Failure in the classroom is often tied to lack of funding, poor teachers or other ills. Here's a thought: Maybe it's the failed work ethic of todays kids. That's what I'm seeing in my school. Until reformers see this reality, little will change.
Last month, as I averaged the second-quarter grades for my senior English classes at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., the same familiar pattern leapt out at me.
Kids who had emigrated from foreign countries - such as Shewit Giovanni from Ethiopia, Farah Ali from Guyana and Edgar Awumey from Ghana - often aced every test, while many of their U.S.-born classmates from upper-class homes with highly educated parents had a string of C's and D's.
As one would expect, the middle-class American kids usually had higher SAT verbal scores than did their immigrant classmates, many of whom had only been speaking English for a few years.
What many of the American kids I taught did not have was the motivation, self-discipline or work ethic of the foreign-born kids.
Politicians and education bureaucrats can talk all they want about reform, but until the work ethic of U.S. students changes, until they are willing to put in the time and effort to master their subjects, little will change.
A study released in December by University of Pennsylvania researchers Angela Duckworth and Martin Seligman suggests that the reason so many U.S. students are "falling short of their intellectual potential" is not "inadequate teachers, boring textbooks and large class sizes" and the rest of the usual litany cited by the so-called reformers - but "their failure to exercise self-discipline."
The sad fact is that in the USA, hard work on the part of students is no longer seen as a key factor in academic success. The groundbreaking work of Harold Stevenson and a multinational team at the University of Michigan comparing attitudes of Asian and American students sounded the alarm more than a decade ago.
Asian vs. U.S. students
When asked to identify the most important factors in their performance in math, the percentage of Japanese and Taiwanese students who answered "studying hard" was twice that of American students.
American students named native intelligence, and some said the home environment. But a clear majority of U.S. students put the responsibility on their teachers. A good teacher, they said, was the determining factor in how well they did in math.
"Kids have convinced parents that it is the teacher or the system that is the problem, not their own lack of effort," says Dave Roscher, a chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams in this Washington suburb. "In my day, parents didn't listen when kids complained about teachers. We are supposed to miraculously make kids learn even though they are not working."
As my colleague Ed Cannon puts it: "Today, the teacher is supposed to be responsible for motivating the kid. If they don't learn it is supposed to be our problem, not theirs."
And, of course, busy parents guilt-ridden over the little time they spend with their kids are big subscribers to this theory.
Maybe every generation of kids has wanted to take it easy, but until the past few decades students were not allowed to get away with it. "Nowadays, it's the kids who have the power. When they don't do the work and get lower grades, they scream and yell. Parents side with the kids who pressure teachers to lower standards," says Joel Kaplan, another chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams.
Every year, I have had parents come in to argue about the grades I have given in my AP English classes. To me, my grades are far too generous; to middle-class parents, they are often an affront to their sense of entitlement. If their kids do a modicum of work, many parents expect them to get at least a B. When I have given C's or D's to bright middle-class kids who have done poor or mediocre work, some parents have accused me of destroying their children's futures.
It is not only parents, however, who are siding with students in their attempts to get out of hard work.
Blame schools, too
"Schools play into it," says psychiatrist Lawrence Brain, who counsels affluent teenagers throughout the Washington metropolitan area. "I've been amazed to see how easy it is for kids in public schools to manipulate guidance counselors to get them out of classes they don't like. They have been sent a message that they don't have to struggle to achieve if things are not perfect."
Neither the high-stakes state exams, such as Virginia's Standards of Learning, nor the requirements of the No Child Left Behind Act have succeeded in changing that message; both have turned into minimum-competency requirements aimed at the lowest in our school.
Colleges keep complaining that students are coming to them unprepared. Instead of raising admissions standards, however, they keep accepting mediocre students lest cuts have to be made in faculty and administration.
As a teacher, I don't object to the heightened standards required of educators in the No Child Left Behind law. Who among us would say we couldn't do a little better? Nonetheless, teachers have no control over student motivation and ambition, which have to come from the home - and from within each student.
Perhaps the best lesson I can pass along to my upper- and middle-class students is to merely point them in the direction of their foreign-born classmates, who can remind us all that education in America is still more a privilege than a right.
Patrick Welsh is an English teacher at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., and a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors.
Another former teacher
I just wanted to let you know you are not the only one who is a former teacher. I have a special ed degree and have taught in several different places, my favorite being with profoundly handicapped adults as a supervisor. However, where I am currently living I have had such a hard time getting back into that field. They only want to hire me for a job that I am totally overqualified for.
I was fortunate enough to find someone who was willing to train me in medical transcription on the job. With all my previous medical experience with education and wiht my on the job experience, I am now a single mom of three who LOVES medical transcription.
Sometimes I feel that I am wasting my degree, but then I hear something that I learned in college or through my previous jobs and know this is what I was meant to ....at least for now.
I don't know if this helps, but I just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
Let's do the math.
MTSOs are paid by hospitals and/or huge ugly conglomerates who exist to attempt to try to help the hospital turn a profit, or at least less of a loss. MTSOs are desperate to get business, so all too often they sell their soul for a pittance (what a decently paid IC would make per line).
The MTSO has to pay the piper: You, copy paper, management, technicians, equipment, QA, trainers, lawyers (yikes!), accounting firms, rent, and on and on.
Yes, many MTSOs make a boat-load of money, many spend money badly and the MTs pay the price, but many are barely hanging on by their toenails.
It's the trickle-down theory in real life. People use the medical system dishonestly (people we know, might even be you), insurance companies want to pay as little as possible because they have mouths to feed, hospitals want to be able to pay their people and improve equipment and be able to save lives, so they try to cut down on what they pay to THEIR overhead, the MTSO. The MTSO is making less so (hopefully) try to cut down on their overhead so they don't affect us, but I know for a fact that too often the MT pays the price long before the CEO and his/her close friends have to cut down on their spending. But, that's the story at every level. The little guy pays but, in truth, we are also the crux of the problem.
Life goes on. Let's all move to a socialist country! 
Try this math
1,000 words x 5.5 char per word = 5,500 characters total
5,500 characters /65 standard characters per line = 85 lines
$5/85 lines = $.059 per line, which is less than 6 cents per line. Not a very good deal unless you're a total newbie or it's a really easy report to type.
never did like math
But everything else I said is correct. (GD&W) 
Thanks for doing the math (sm)
So that would be based on 8 cents per line, she must make at least 24 cents per line?
LMAO!!!!
See the math SM
Ok, let's say you're a speedy Transcriptionist and can do 2000 lines a day. You would earn:
15.50 x 8 = 124.00 (base pay) plus
$40 extra for extra lines plus
employee status with bennies (value? a lot!)
but based solely on pay, you would earn $20.50 an hour! Not too shabby!
Chickadee
thank you too for doing the math!!...sm
20% from 9 cpl for reg = 7.2 CPL for ASR. Thanks again for DOING THE MATH !! 
need help with the math !!!
I just charged a POSSIBLE new client 11 cents a line - now here is my dilemma - I suck at math.
If the client should ask me, is that 11 cents per 65 characters with spaces or without spaces - what should I say.
Second, how do I figure out the math I have Microsoft Word and it has a line count and character count with spaces and without spaces. How does one figure out the math?
Oooohhhh what was I thinking....
I did the math sm
on one of my word documents, and they were almost exactly the same.
1545 characters without spaces divided by 55 = 28.09 lines
(same report) 1851 characters with spaces divided by 65 =28.47 lines
so, I would say it is almost exactly the same as 9 cents per 65-character line with spaces.
Chickadee
Let's Do the Math!!!
Okay, here and on other boards there are many questions as to "which school to attend" and "best schools" and "only three schools matter" and so on and so forth.
There are at least 100,000 MTs working in the U.S., according to the BLS stats.
100,000.
Not even 1/10 of the working MTs could have possibly gone to those schools.
That leaves 90,000 MTs trained elsewhere, for those of you following along at home.
And yet, the constant refrain is "Andrews, M-Tec, and CS."
And they are good schools, certainly, especially the first two. But they aren't the ONLY schools and people who are spreading the hysteria that "you won't ever work unless you attend on of those three schools" are not helping the profession. Some of the message boards on other forums (fora) are so obviously biased that it's laughable, yet the newcomer to the field might not pick up on that.
A challenge: Tell where YOU went to school.
I went to Meditec and I'm working, folks. And doing well. And enjoying it! I have several "online buddies" who attended MT Advantage. They are working, too!
And to those who will say it was "mere luck:" 90,000 people gettin' lucky -- I like those odds!!!
Let's Do The Math
I didn't go to school at all. Been working for a major national since 1997.
let's do the math
Back in 1973, I had on-the-job training at a local government hospital in the "transcription pool." I was so interested in medical terminology, I took the medical dictionary home with me every night and on weekends. I then took a medical terminology course at this same hospital, beginner's and advanced and learned more medical terminology. Those were the days....... It was all free too....
Do the math...
1 to 3 cpl (friggin highway robbery).... if you edit 200 lines and hour...is 2 dollars per hour, at the top tier of 3 cpl.. is 6 dollars an hour... I have no idea how these companies get away with this. If you are really good at editing and quick...and can edit 400-500 lph (and believe me that is top of your game)....range if 4/hr to 12/hr. Medical editing takes a highly experienced Transcriptionist because so much little stuff would get passed over...and I am sure it is because they are putting extremely inexperienced MTs or all the ESL in India on editing thinking any monkey can do it. The gross erros will catch up and either the hospitals will not care or the proverial Sh#t will hit the fan and they will have to start paying professional MTs what they are worth.
the math
To make $15 an hour, one must edit 500 lines an hour. That is a furious pace and cannot be kept up except by the exceptional MT, one who is that coordinated and focused. Perhaps one can do that for four hours, but eight hours? Unless there was a break in the middle, maybe. And every day? And is the dictation that good that one can fly through the reports? Every day? I think not.
I make roughly $20 an hour straight typing now, so VR is out of the picture for me. I just do not want to do VR and will get out before demoting myself to those insulting wages. We are worth a decent wage. The MTSOs need to realize that our knowledge is worth something. We are not just typists.
Have you called the teacher? sm
Over the years I've had to e-mail and talk on the phone to my child's teachers. If you don't have the teacher's number or e-mail, you could probably call your child's school and get the information. If the teacher is worth his/her salt, they would probably be happy to help you out.
from an MT into a English Teacher
Am thinking of getting some education units (degree hopefully) to become an english teacher. I have been an MT for roughly seven years, five months give or take including schooling. But since i feel that Big Company (fourth down upper left panel of your screen, starts with "m") that says they dont outsource, but we cant be be so sure. I feel that the work is not anymore paying well right now. (maybe im just not getting the big breaks) I feel that i have to check my alternatives - cause im not getting any younger. Its tough out there but i think that god will provide.
Am i too old to be a english teacher?
is there a age requirement on being an english teacher? Or 32 is too old?
Hi TIA, my DH is a former 7th grade teacher and now....
is a high school principal. Don't people like that ignorant poster above really burn you up? As the wife of a teacher, I can vouch for the long hours and dedication that teachers put in. My DH can talk you through a typical week that will prove that most teachers put in 12 months worth of full-time hours and MORE in the 9.5 months that they work. That doesn't even count the summer hours preparing for the next school year. I have sat home on my anniversary because my husband is off chaperoning a trip so the kids can attend a band competition a thousand miles away. We have spent endless dollars of our own supplementing these trips, buying things for needy students, and making "sports supervision duty" a family night out so we can spend a little time with hubby and Dad. Don't even get me started on the vandalism that we've incurred over the last 15 years. Shall I start with the car that some little gang banger started by pouring a gallon of gas into our car and setting it on fire, because he was suspended? Or how about the rocks put into our gas tank of our car? Teachers ought to get hazard pay! Wasn't an asst. principal just gunned down last week? Teachers don't become teaches for the money, believe me. Where else can you finish a bachelor's degree and an 18 month credentialing program for a whopping 25,000 dollars a year (in some areas, more in others). A car mechanic makes twice as much as that!!! So, I pretty much dismiss those people who think teachers sit on their butts all day and skate out the door at 2:30. Their kids are probably the worst of them all.
I used to be a typing teacher...
I used to be a typing teacher and also had long nails at the time. I got one of those split keyboards (ergonomic) and it helped. Having my hands in that position allowed me to type a lot easier with my longer nails. You might give that a try. Keyboards are really cheap.
I think I wanted to be a teacher
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My mom is a retired teacher, so that was something
we never said at home. But as much as I have tried to correct my youngest, he still uses it. And he and my husband say, That DON'T matter. Yikes. doesn't doesn't doesn't. It DOESN'T matter!
You know, when you type doesn't that many times, it no longer looks like a real word. I double checked the spelling and I'm still not sure it's right.
Traveling teacher
Where in MT, you can E-mail me
My son's teacher sent me an e-mail
a couple of weeks ago and I could not believe that she said, "I hope that makes since." This was from a middle school teacher at that. I couldn't help myself but to write back, "I think I was able to make sense out of this."
From reading numerous other e-mails from this teacher, it is apparent that she also does not know how to appropriately punctuate sentences.
Terribly sad, indeed.
Math homework
To the best of my recollection...24 would be the LCD, so something like this?
2/3 - 1/8 = B
16/24 - 3/24 = B
13/24 = B
quick math
3,000 characters divided by 65 = 46.15 lines x .09 = $4.15.
3,000/74 cpl = 40.54 x .10 = $4.05.
Simple -- do the math
Pull up one of your old documents and figure out your gross line count and then divide characters by 70. See how the totals compare. Do not know what your margins are in your gross line, if they are longer with margins at .5 and .5 versus then you could come out ahead but if they are at 1. and 1. then you will be close to even with an increase of 1.5. But again would be simple to figure out from one of your old documents. Just me 2 cents worth. Patti
According to my math, you actually need a raise to 13 cpl. sm
It seems that when you cut your pay by 1/3, you need to raise the line pay by almost 1/2 to keep even. Checked it out on 100 lines at 9 cpl ($9), dropped to 68.5 lines, had to go to just over 13 cpl to get the same pay. Am I missing something?
math people, please help me--sm
Current pay 0.1122 cpl $18.54 vacation/holiday pay.
Company bought. Am now being offered 0.095 cpl and $13.50. What is the percentage of my loss? Am so upset about this cannot think.
fuzzy math
332 lines at .08 line is $26.56 an hour not $19. If you are the same stumped as above, you said you make $35 to $40 an hour for 350-400 lines which would be 10 cpl. I am confused??!!??
not fuzzy math...
I make 10 CPL, but I was figuring on those people who make less than me - and you are right about the 8 cpl being $26.56, but at 6 CPL, which is what somebody said they made, it would be about $19 an hour - I just made a typo - Sorry.
Me too and I have to take a math class, but I need to do something else, sm
cant outsource eating LOL
get a load of this math
ST: 250 lines an hour at 8 cents a line is $20.00. (I can do 250 an hour if I concentrate). If I can only do 200 lines an hour, that is still $16.00 an hour.
Now for the VR:
VR: 400 lines (roughly 60% more than straight typing 250 lines an hour) at 3 cents a line is $12.00.
How is that more money? It's a 25% cut!
How many of you spent years perfecting your macros and shortcuts and Expanders just to have it taken away from you so you can't make a decent living?
I won't be doing any VR work. I think they wasted their money with this new technology. They could have given us raises with that money and had happy employees cranking out the lines. Win-win.
Too bad for us. Shafted, once again!
when the student is ready, the teacher will come
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Too bad we can't have that sound bite..the CB teacher one! LOL
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Hey, maybe we had the same teacher! Cracked the ruler
on the desk and on some guy's knuckles when they were caught looking at the keys or the paper. LOL, she was a true peach!
My English teacher would cringe at the BOS. nm
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If you think you have stress now, wait until you are a teacher.
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Oh, grow up. There is no teacher here to be a "pet" for. (sm)
Unless you're paying me per line to obsess about my grammar and spelling on this message board, I am not going to stress my grammar and spelling. It's just like when I'm talking with friends. I don't say "I cannot" and "he will", I use contractions. However, I would not use contractions in a report. Casual conversation, like here, is different than professional communication, like in an email to a client, or professional work.
In short, get over yourself.
Teacher/baseball coach
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Help! need teacher gift ideas please
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Do it correct always. It will learn. Everyone has to do it correct all the time. nm
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please help a math-dummy calculate
trying to figure cell phone plans (pay as you go type)....do i divide minutes by dollars, or dollars by minutes to get the cents per minute...
and more so, how does one know which way to divide other things of similar nature (not necessarily dollars vs minutes).
mega thanks .
math.com is another great website
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I did the math for you. It comes out to an average of $0.067/line...sm
30 lines x 0.067 = $2.01
It all depends on the length of the reports, the software they're using and also if they pay for links.
Be very careful if the reports are really long on average, you won't make much at all.
Sounds like "FUZZY MATH" to me! ;D (nm)
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Hey thanks.. I never did do well in Math in school haha
Heck, there is math and chemistry
and even surgical procedures. If these courses are any good at all, they could really help a person prepare to go back to school, even test out of certain classes.
Thank you so much for the link.
bad with math is no problem anymore -
there are always calculators and computers!
To quote my business math teacher, "Is the head of the department going to come tell you to put your calculator up or they are going to dock your pay."
Not talking down to you by any means - just saying don't let that stop you from doing something you might want to do.
I feel your pain about ADHD and sitting at a desk - It is killing me. I am so bored with it and cannot keep my mind on the task at hand anymore (which should be making money, but actually ends up chatting on this board for some variety).
A PA would be a great job. They are going to be in high demand in the coming years. I just don't want to be in the medical field anymore or I would do that. I always wanted to be a doctor, but alas I fell in love at 15 and got pregnant and had a baby and had to give up a lot of what I wanted. Started nursing school at one point, and ended up transcribing and have been doing it now for almost 17 years. It has been good to me, but it is time to put it to rest!
My roommate is going to college to be a teacher and I think she's crazy (sm)
She's going to be an elementary school teacher so maybe it will be better, but her ex-husband was a teacher for middle school and my daughter was a high school math teacher, and both of them gave it up. The discipline is nonexistent in schools, as well as at home. I'm not saying that they should spank a child, but something has to be done. The principals did not enforce the rules of the school, always saying the child had a home live, or some other excuse, but never made any child responsible for their actions. I don't know what the answer is, but I can tell you I wouldn't be a teacher if that was the last profession on earth. My hat is off to anyone who can stick it out, and my prayers are with them.
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