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Many physicians in my area don't want to take Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare

Posted By: it's common on 2006-01-03
In Reply to: Question re elderly patient being dropped by long-time PCP. sm - wondering

or other insurances because the insurance companies require a huge buydown of charges and then disallow quite a bit for being "above the reasonable amount."

For example, I had double insurance of Blue Cross/Blue Shield and Tricare when I had surgery. The bills totaled $15,000. Blue Cross knocked $5,000 off the physician's $7,800 bill, paid him $600 and left Tricare and me to deal with the $1,200 balance. Tricare wouldn't pay because they disallowed the amount as unreasonable, the physician's office forced me to make payments on it, and I had to fight just so I didn't owe them another $1,200. It was ridiculous that I had double insurance coverage and wound up owing anything. Meanwhile, the doctor didn't even get paid that much, and he did my presurgery appointments, the actual surgery, two postsurgery appointments to remove hardware, plus coordinating everything between cardiology, radiology, anesthesia, laboratory, surgery, and having special equipment trucked in from out of state.

If I had not had insurance at all, I would have had to pay the entire amount. I think it's crazy that noninsureds have to pay the full amount but insurance companies can disallow or buy down the amounts due. Anyway, you hit a big rant of mine. Shortly after I lost my Blue Cross coverage, my son needed to be seen but we couldn't find a provider to even take Tricare at all. So much for my husband serving his country and being away from his family in the line of duty. The doctors get rich and refuse to treat military personnel who fight for their freedom. Talk about a total lack of appreciation.


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yes..they are taking out for SS and Medicare...
a friend of mine said when she wasn't making that much money she had them withold an extra 10.00 for federal so i may have to do that...
Forgot to say this was for Medicare Supplemental Insurance (NM))
nm
Your national is liable for SS and Medicare tax not you. They thinkyou are self employed. nm
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I've actually found Medicare very easy to deal with...
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Yes, you're cranky. The docs may be instructed to do so to appease Medicare or other such entity.
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If government is involved, it will be as screwed up as the Medicare medication program.
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there was recently an article in our local newspaper where one of our local school districts tried to charge $1000 a year for each illegal student enrolled. it was bulked and the illegals got a lawyer to sue for discrimination. the school district merely stated that they had to HIRE extra teachers that could speak the foreign language just to teach these children and were trying to offset some of the expenses. ridicilous!! so again our taxpayers money is paying to educate illegals as well.
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Yep, been there,done that. Many physicians today
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I am surprised.


 


 


 


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physicians pinching pennies
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To my knowledge, you can't print the physicians'....sm
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Good gried!!! Plenty of physicians
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Physicians and caring or lack thereof

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I wish all doctors could be like these two - both of them female!  Maybe it has something to do with our nurturing instincts! 


I have to agree. I would be uneasy having some ESLs as my physicians - sm
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Same situation here. When worked in-house or for physicians offices,

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Does anyone know where to find a listing of the V.A. Medical Center physicians?
Thanks for the help.
Not sure, I have deductions for federal income tax, SS tax, Medicare tax, and state income tax. ???
nm
I also have two offices w/mult physicians on tapes, but going digital this month (sm)
at my encouragement.  I am training them with a consulting fee by the hour.  They were resistant, very old fashioned, but after multiple problems with a few docs dictating over each other's tapes, and the cost of gas, paper, and everything else... I encouraged this.  In fact one service just added another physician and I told them I could not handle their transcription anymore, but they said whatever I can do to continue, so we are going digital and longer turn-around time.  It will be a time saver and more cost effective for me right away. I will still be going in to the offices probably twice a month because I feel the personal touch is really important.  I also work PT for a national, by my choice, as I feel it keeps me on my toes with different types of transcription.  Also the national is a guaranteed paycheck via direct deposit every 2 weeks, whereas my own customers, thought good money, well sometimes they are late. 
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