MT Bashing by nurses
Posted By: p.o.'d MT on 2006-11-13
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I found this on a nurse's blog - they were talking about MT mistakes they found in charts...
Nurse #1:
I tried to get a job as a medical Transcriptionist for extra money, and no one would hire me because my 15 years experience of direct patient care does not qualify me to be a transcriptionist. Oh really? Or, I guess I mean, Owe Reilly?
Nurse #2:
I have no idea why they wouldn't let you work as a transcriptionist - what sort of special training would you need that you wouldn't already have?! It might be a good way to make ends meet if there came a point where a nurse couldn't stand up for so long anymore. It doesn't seem like it would take much in the way of critical thinking skills...
We don't use critical thinking skills? Darn, then maybe I should look into the career opportunities at Burger King...
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I am not and was not bashing her and all that. sm
I was just trying to vent with colleagues over some of my frustrations. I didn't call her names, nor did I suggest that she is a bad person in any way. My only complaint with her is that she never admits she is wrong and never says I am sorry. But that was yesterday and this is today. I have vented and I'm fine. I really didn't mean to stir up such a hornet's nest. I have no ill will or whatever. I just sometimes feel that there is a lot of talk about professionalism, but sometimes it is just talk.
I never worked for Signal, but I love MDI, and I do not think, as some have suggested, that she goes around deliberately overhiring, nor do I think she is nuts. She may be a bit eccentric, but we all are, I suppose, in our own way. If nothing else, she is a good businesswoman, and that just wouldn't make sense to deliberately cause so many MTs to be miserable with no work. I have to assume there is some kind of plan in the works. I do believe she cares about the MTs and making sure there is enough work.
I wish this thread would be deleted -- it was just a frustrated plea for a sympathetic "ear," but now has turned into some meanspirited bashing, which I never wanted.
My apologies to all for being a part of it in any way
You most certainly WERE bashing.
Otherwise you would not have come on a public message board and posted what you did. It was rude and unprofessional and as I said in another post, I hope she finds out who you are and FIRES you. How ungrateful you are.
I don't know why all the bashing sm
on this board when against people who have done this for years and years. If a company calls you to ASK you to do a stat or whatever, you can always say no. I have done MT almost 40 years and I am not yet 60....will be soon. It is the way the business is.
The only way to get out of this is to work in-house and there are not many of those jobs left. Personally for the money that most in-house jobs pay, I would rather work for the MTSO at home.
Not everybody who does MT has that spouse with the second income and they have to work and do what they have to do. My hubby and I have made it work for 36 years. Kids are now grown and gone and have homes and careers of their own and never suffered. My husband and I worked it so that, most of the time, if one was working the other wasn't so the kids didn't have to have a babysitter. There were times when we did use babysitters, etc but we tried our best not to.
There shouldn't be "bashing" on either end BUT, I believe there are many MTs that don't have years of experience that dont' understand this is the business. You have to work when the work is there.
Keep doing what you are doing and you wont' have to worry about work. I never have had to in all the years I have done MT except for the usual holiday type slow downs. Even with all the Mt going to India, etc, I think there is always still going to be a place for MTs with lots of experience. Just my opinion.
Bush bashing
Administrator-- could we please have all the Bush bashing placed on the political board where it belongs????
Here's my take (I'm not in the mood for bashing, either!)
I enjoy belonging to AAMT because they keep me informed about what is going on in the industry. I live in a rather rural area and we do have a small component chapter in our area which I also like, as it helps me stay connected with people in this profession in my particular area (networking). Our meetings are not held on Saturdays, so the other poster who said that may have experienced that, but not in my area.
I do enjoy going to the symposiums--they are not that expensive and I learn a great deal as well as network with other people in my state. That is priceless, in my opinion.
I also like being involved with a professional association, as I take my profession seriously and want to associate myself with the professional association, and AAMT is it in that regard. If there were other choices, I might feel differently.
Are they perfect? Heck, no! But, the members do elect the people who make the decisions and therefore I feel my voice does get heard. Do they always do what I want? No, but no organization would, as everyone has different opinions.
I think it is a personal choice. I've been in MT for 25+ years and a member of AAMT for the past 12. I make a very good wage, and yes, I do get compensated for my CMT, though I understand many do not. I am proud to be a member and plan to keep up my membership as long as I feel my needs are being met which is networking, continuing education, etc.
That's almost as bad as having nurses do it!
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Don't turn this into a Bush bashing
nm
That's not bashing? Coulda fooled me.
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Wasn't bashing you Nana!
I just thought my post might come off like that LOL. Guess I was sort of agreeing with you! Didn't want it to sound wrong since I attached it to yours!
what's wrong with my typing? Are the bashing
and insults starting for lack of logic?
The nurses do all that, except maybe the scalpels.
x
Thank God for some nurses who DO dictate...
for the docs who are horrible dictators. I do progress notes for an ICN nursery almost nightly. Thank GOD for those nurses. There are 2 docs right from the old country who can't string a sentence together in English though good docs they may be. We're talking 7-8 page very detailed reports on some of these babies. The other night, one of these gals dictated the first part, God love her, and actually handed the phone to the doc to give his 2 cents worth, awful dictator. Hey, the best thing some of these docs can do is let their PAC's do the dictating!!!
And Why?? Because nurses are presented
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LOL..i wasn't bashing you..just found it interesting.
x
Why are you bashing her for making a sacrifice for her family first?
Good grief!
any previous nurses MTing now?
Hi there, I have been an MT for 4 1/2 years now, and I enjoy it for the most part, but I've really been thinking of finishing my BSN degree. I had started college as a nursing major back in 1988, but dropped out after two years of completion of the prerequisite classes. I have always had an interest in the medical field so MT'ing has been interesting, but I've really been wanting to finish up my nursing degree though, I have always regretted not finishing it. Especially when I do the operative eports I really would like to be in the operating room working. So, anyway, I have put my application in for the BSN program again and waiting to see if I get readmitted. Are there are any former nurses out there who are MT'ing on this board, or perhaps any nurses doing MT'ing too who have any opinions? Or are there any other fellow MT's going to nursing school on here and have any input about it? If you are a previous nurse who is now a MT how come, and vice versa, if there are any MT's who are presently in nursing school please let me know how it is going for you.
The very WORST MTs I have ever done QA for were nurses for 20 plus years!
Mind you, this was after they graduated from one of the *Big 3* schools to boot. I know most MTs can type circles around them. They were asleep at the wheel most of the time!
And just how many MTs transcribe NURSES' notes?
Nurses document about 2 sentences, so their work is amenable to point-and-click.
Physicians who typically scribble very short notes don't dictate anyway, so you're not losing anything by them using point-and-click.
The ones who dictate do so because their notes are too long to write. It's just about as annoying to point-and-click them in an EMR as it is to type them out by hand, so most physicians who value their time do not wish to waste it fooling with computers. At our facility, they continue to dictate.
Hospital dictation is not usually suitable for point-and-click. It's too long and some physicians are able to dictate at the speed of light, so they would lose too much time writing it themselves.
I'll share one reason some doctors do want to do it themselves: the quality of the transcribed reports they get back is so bad they can't stand it. They figure if it looks terrible and is crammed full of nonsense, they might as well do it themselves. At least, it'll make sense.
There are no dictators, physicians, nurses, PAs or the like
who don’t dictate on the VR I use, wish I did not have the crap dictators as you call them but they are not left out on my end. I really, really hate it now when I do get a straight report to type I am so happy with the VR I do. I think before long most big places will go that route, little ones not so much as I think VR costs quite a bit.
bush bashing? Do you like paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas? NM
get a life.
Then again you could end up w/one that nurses q2h like mine did! Lucky to get a shower in even. nm
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Was nurses aid, then aide in ICU, then ward clerk, then
MORE medical terms cuz halo the docs were professors, and they let me play PA under their supervision, then w/comp supervisor, then pregnant, then had to find a PMs job and landed in transcription dept as trainee. If I could meet their requirements, I stuck. If not, I was fired. I stuck.
The docs and nurses enter from keyboard themselves. sm
It is VERY irritating. They spend all their time looking at the keyboard and screen and not at you, the patient. Worse yet, when you go back the next time, you find they entered wrong information.
nursing shortage includes nurses for instructors...sm
you can't teach nursing classes without nurses to teach the classes - that's part of the shortage and part of the reason why the shortage continues. Also more nurses are going for the bachelor's degree (4 years vs. 2 years) and that is extending the time before they are out in the work force.
remember when nurses wore the little hats...hahaha
nm
Do you think nurses and front office professionals look sloppy?
I don't like to go around looking "sloppy all day" either, but is it really practical to work comfortably in nylons and suit jackets when I am sitting and typing all day? No thanks -- I can't work well that way!
I refuse to wear sweats or jammies because I want my work to reflect my professionalism and I think the way I feel about myself reflects that -- hence, scrubs, which medical professionals wear. I am a medical professional and I don't think there is anything sloppy about wearing tasteful, professional, and comfortable scrubs.
Do you think that front office people, nurses, and doctors look "sloppy all day" by wearing scrubs?
No, I need to work with some coworkers with "class", not low rental boss-bashing cats!
And what I love the most - if Frank himself called one of them, or actually walked up to them in an office, they'd fall all over him, gushing about how great he is to work for! Guaranteed! Its just so "catty" to claw his eyes out on an anonymous message board and giggle, giggle, giggle. I'd be saying the same thing to their faces as well, except I'd probably be their supervisor and would be canning their catty behinds.
Scarry!!! Docs and nurses entering drugs and dosages into online charts. (sm)
Most of my docs cannot spell medical terms. They can't pronounce or spell drugs. The nurses are for the most part useless - no ARNP I ever asked could help me with a medical term.
I just spoke to my HMO. They are now offering personal Online-charts showing
visits, tests, immunizations, etc. of what you personally had done.
I asked EXACTLY HOW DOES THIS INFO GET INTO THE SYSTEM, at what point?
The woman said: It is input by the doc and the nurses.
I shuttered!
There goes the end of quality health care as we used to know it!
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