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Posted By: Anita on 2006-04-14
In Reply to: My 4 yo is having trouble. - Lynn

Hi,

Just before coming online and reading your post, I was remembering my many years of teaching preschool and a little bit of kindergarten....

Some perspective: In my school we had 60 kids, including the kindergarteners in an open classroom.

--Each preschool "group" was made up of kids divided by age...3.1 mos. to 3.5 mos., 3.5 mos. to 4 mos. etc.

There were simply enough kids to divvy up according to that fine an age difference and skill/maturity level--and, even then, you could see that there can be some notable differences in just those few mos. in academic orientation and/or readiness, maturity, learning styles, etc.

--And, just as importantly differences in personality can account for a child's interests and readiness for different activities--academic-wise and "play as work"--wise which is essentially the business of ALL children--to play and learn through play.

--As well, my school was heavy into academics, even for the preschoolers and I felt that sometimes my fellow teachers took it waaaay too far and were waaay too demanding.

Otherwise, in school, I tried to develop an activity or academic-oriented lesson plan that took into account ALL the kids and all their differing abilities. It's not easy and it's a lot of extra work, but it's something that a good teacher does. Ask yourself (and ask HER teacher): Is her teacher doing that?

One child I had was well advanced on writing and recognizing her letters from memory (that child was clearly working at home with her parents and siblings). She was very, very bright, motivated, and I thought that it was a good and appropriate thing for her.

As a result, this was a child that I gave extra work to or work of a higher caliber than what the other children were doing so that she stayed challenged and engaged.

At the same time, I had a lot of other children who were just being exposed to letters and numbers pretty much for the first time--forget about writing ability! (I worked in Chinatown and almost all of our kids were from immigrant, monolanguage homes).

That said, here are some things to consider:

--There may be some level of teacher-child personality conflict--it happens. And, some teachers have a certain style or expectation of the kids fitting into their mold. Or, they may work well with particular types/person-alities of kids. Could this be a mis-match?

Is there another teacher or another school available that would suit your daughter better?

Schools, including preschool and kindergarten programs, can vary widely in quality as well as in approach, methods, and philosophies.

If you can, go observe a kindergarten class or two at the school she will be attending in future. Check in with the teachers of those classes about what they expect and would like incoming students to know already. Again, pay attention to different styles between any teachers you observe/talk to.

--Her current teacher is too demanding/expectations are too high. How long has she been teaching and what training has she had? (My first year, it took a while before I realized that I was demanding/expecting some things from my group of kids that were really unrealis-tic). I was the one who had to "get a clue" as it were....

Personally, I think that word recognition and any extensive writing at this age is a bit much, except for recognizing and writing their first names (and, for most of my kids, this would be their first exposure to it).

Any time they did a painting, coloring project, number worksheet, labeled their box of crayons, I "dotted" in their names which they would then trace to practice name recognition and writing.) You can easily expose this to her at home before her picture gets hung up on the fridge.

I wouldn't even begin to introduce reading, writing, and recognizing the letters of their LAST names until the latter part of the year.

In our kindergarten program, we would have usually 1-2 kids who were ready to start reading or who were absolutely reading by the end (if not the middle) of our kindergarten program. We usually had 1 or 2 who were on the verge by the end--the other 20 or so WERE NOT. And remember, we were already heavily academic in the first place.

So, what is the expecta-tion/demand in your child's school on this subject?

--Consider that some kids need or benefit most from "enrichment" at this age--psychosocial interaction, more play/imaginative time, exposure to different activities and experiences.

Further,"sit in your seat", "sit still", "repeat after me" types of demands are NOT the best methods for teaching this age group.

There is also research evidence that too heavy an emphasis on this type of learning for kindergarteners and even 1st graders is inappropriate and should be reconsidered.

I was academic oriented to be sure. Yes, I expected a lot from my kids academically and within what I thought was reason--they worked hard and usually I tried to ensure they had fun doing it.

When it was play time, I saw to it that they played hard. Sometimes I saw to it that they played more than they "worked/formally learned".

In sum, it is NOT AT ALL appropriate for kids this age to spend concentrated amounts of time "sitting still" and performing with pen and paper.

So, how much of their day is actually spent sitting down, being still, quiet....?

--Also consider that kids learn, and need to be taught, in different modes especially at this age, at any age really.

If we were learning about shapes, we did pencil and paper work, we walked around our school looking for that particular shape in our everday environment in school in our clothing, we took a field trip and while on our way to (or while at) the playground, the post office, the bakery, the art gallery, the kids would be asked to find the shape we'd been learning about, learning to recognize, pronounce, etc.

THAT is teaching and it's teaching the "whole child", the best type of teach-ing/learning for this age group.

As well, some of these things are easily adaptable activities for parents to share with their child at home and will help make them more "ready".

--When she says her hands are "weak" what does she mean? And, is she referring to gross motor or fine motor skills or both? And what examples is she prepared to give you on how to help her?

--ADHD--I didn't use to believe it existed. I thought it was just another billing trick--until I ran into it with a brother, and then later his sister, in my group; I then became a believer on the spot.

Additionally, with all the transcription I've done for psychiatrists, neurologists, and a pediatric developmental specialist, oh yeah. It exists and yes, it does often have a strong familial link.

However, even from your limited description of your daughter, it doesn't sound like ADHD to me, so don't let anybody back you into that corner so easily.

In sum, you've been crying and feeling bad, thinking that you and/or your daughter are failures. I beg to differ and have a whole lot of concerns about how her teacher may be failing HER.

In addition, at what point has she given ANY indication that she even LIKES your daughter, much less recognizes that she has any stregths or positive qualities. At what point is she prepared to help your daughter and how is she going to help her?

Because, it is AT THAT POINT that it is the teacher who is failing your daughter, NOT the other way around and don't be shy on calling her and her supervisor on it.

Now, go cry and get it out of your system. That's not a bad thing. It's only a bad thing if when you finish crying you don't go out and kick some butt on her behalf. I'll get off my soap box now....

{{{Much love to you and to her.}}}}

--Anita




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