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Legal Scoping Careers?

Posted By: MTness on 2005-10-25
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Has anyone looked into or taken the training course from the lady, Judy Barrett who posts on the "other" board about the scoping career?  I am curious if any one has gone through the course and if anyone has found this lucrative?  Any information on an outcome would be appreciated.  Thanking you in advance.


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Legal scoping career
Sara - please keep me posted. It does sound interesting to me I'm curious to speak to you on how long it actually takes to learn the steno language. Keep me posted. Thank you.
A lot of legal transcription and legal jobs in
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scoping
I'm currently taking her course as a beta-tester. Its quite interesting. I look forward to a career with it.

I spoke with her prior to taking the course and was rather impressed. I do notice that you get more feedback through phone calls than emails. She's a very very nice lady.
scoping

Feel free to contact me (just put something in the subject line like "scoping" so I know its a legit email ).  I can tell you a little of what I know. 


Right now Judy has a few typos in the program, and I'm trying to catch her up on them (you know how it is, we input and input, and after a while it all looks alike ).  In fact, I need to try to call her tonight about a question I have, if I get home early enough.


This is fun, frankly.  And makes me eager for the VR side of MT. 


One thing about it, prepare to learn a whole new language (not just terminology).  For example, when you see TPHURS it means NURSE LOLOL.  I feel like I'm learning Russian at times!  but i'm seriously enjoying it.


MT and Scoping
Has anyone ever tried to combine these 2 careers (mt with court report editing, otherwise known as scoping) or had any experience with it? Would be interested to hear
what is scoping? *curious*.....nm

Transcription and Scoping
I once worked with a guy who did transcription and quite good with it. He decided he would try the court transcription, bought his equipment, started to school and he gave it up, said it was tremendously harder than he thought. That is my only experience with knowing anyone who tried the cross training.
I'm learning scoping, and its quite interesting, instead of CR -- nm
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Any MTs make the switch to scoping?
What is required?  Where do you look for work?  Can one work from home?  How does the pay compare to that of MTs?  Is there a good website you can refer me to?  TIA! 
Link to scoping infor, if interested
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careers
I don't think medical billing is the next logical step for MTs. To me personally the logical thing is something else in healthcare, but for other people the logical thing would be what they are interested in, health care or not, or what opportunities arise. I'd like to slowly start to work on something else as I don't see MT carrying me to retirement in 30 years. I'm thinking about radiology tech, ultrasound/MRI tech, health care administration, or nursing in its various levels since there never seems to be a shortage of need for those.

I haven't done billing before but have done coding and don't see it with a long-term future, either.
Changing Careers
I absolutely LOVE medical transcription work. It is the best kind of work for me. I have always, up until five years ago, made plenty of money to support my family (I am a single 45 year old mom).

However, I have become very scared. So, I have 80% decided that I have to go back to school and start over. It makes me sick, but I can't watch my pay decrease every year like this.

I really, really, really want to continue MT work, but it just doesn't feel secure for me anymore.

AND - changing careers at my age is also scary, but I have a friend who did it at 50-something years old, so I guess I can, too.
Changing careers

I have been an MT my entire life.   I had no formal training - just had a knack for it and always had a job doing transcription.  I was sought out many times. However back about 1993 I started hearing rumors about voice recognition. I at that time decided to go to school and get a nursing degree as I wanted to stay in healthcare. I obtained my LPN- RN - then BSN in 1999.   Took me awhile but I did it.  Since that time I have done some coding, worked as a nurse and been promoted to transcription supervisor in 2000.  I also teach transcription at our local college.  Since I have such a broad range of experiences in all the things you are looking at I would suggest nursing - you are going to get the most valuable education in that field - with many opportunities.   If you don't like it you would have the bulk of your education and could easily slip int to coding or transcription.  Just my opinion.


changing careers

It seems a lot of people are feeling the same crunch.  I have been an MT for 10 years  I too used to have a excellent hourly plus incentive with great bennies in-house jobs which was outsourced to an Indian Company. I worked from home and make ok. Now it's hard to even find a decent line count with benefits at all. I am working as an IC at 9 cpl and no bennies. As a single Mother I simply cannot do this anymore.  There companies who offer employee status and bennies but the line rates are so low or they want you to work 2nd or 3rd shift and with my family situation this is not possible.


I too am making a career change plans.  It seems that nursing is all the rage with the high paying jobs and plenty of them. But as a former nursing student years ago before MT I know it's not for me.  Too high pressure and the bullying in nursing school is unbelievable as is the 2 year committment to school full time.


I decided to try Assocaites degree Accounting/CIS. I hope to enter as a clerk or bookkeeper and work towards the Bachelors degree once working as a clerk.  In the meantime I have been brushing up on Powerpoint, Excel, etc and applying for secretarial and admn assistant jobs. 


 I had considered medical billing but I am somewhat soured on the healthcare system and outsourcing.  I figured Accounting is much broader and can work for more than one industry, but have seen accounting positions in healthcare systems too. 


I wondered if people would share what fields they were considering.


For new MTs... the field IS dying between VR contsantly improving and outsourcing/offshoring our jobs are dwindling as are the pay and benefits.  If you are a married-stay-at-home type of Mom with luxury of a second income and your husband's benefits MT might still be ok for a little extra money on the side.  But for anyone trying to support either themselves or their family on MT -- forget it.   Its a good part-time Mom job these days and that is about it. 


Sad.  There are many excellent and quality MTs who have a ton of knowledge.  I wondered how they intended to transfer skills to another profression.  The writing is on the wall.  I hope to be out in 2-1/2 years tops. 


 


 


 


changing careers
After almost 30 years of MT work under my belt, I'm ready to throw in the towel and hit the pavement. I'm already out there interviewing. Even if I make only what I make as an MT, if it's a job that I like, then it'll be worth it. Wish me luck!
When I click Careers and try to get to job back
Am I overlooking something?  Having an operator error?  Or do we not have a job bank anymore?  Thank you!
IMHO and experience, in most, if not all careers-SM
the better your memory and flexibility, the better your success.  If your memory is so-so, then find tools that will increase your success, i.e., account post-its and sample reports, even reading something out loud.  For me, if I handwrite what I am given in print regarding an account/doc, I am more likely to remember it.  Making handwritten notes takes time, but helps things stick in my memory.
And why would you want to switch change careers?!..
I am an MT and not a newbie, about 15 years of experience and I don't make $44,000 a year (oh, how I wish)! Why would you want to break into this business? This career is just going down hill in so many ways. I hear medical coding is on the rise and some seem to be transitioning from MT to just that. I also understand medical coding and billing can be done from home as well. I would be checking into that if I were you. If you are expecting to make $44,000 a year as a new MT, you are SO dreaming! Sorry so harsh, but would hate to see you make a huge financial mistake, IMHO!
Sorry, meant to say change careers
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Interesting article about best careers in 2006. sm
http://biz.yahoo.com/special/job06_article1.html
Question for MTs pursuing nursing careers.
I am also considering going back to college and studying to become an RN.  I took a 2-year course in "medical records technology" 18 years ago at a junior college and got a lot of the prerequisites out of the way including Anatomy and Physiology I and II.  If I decided to go back to college, how long would it take me to complete an RN program?  Isn't it typically 4 years starting from scratch?  Any help is greatly appreciated!!  Thanks!!
A-M-E-N! The main reason women in all careers - sm
earn less than men (and employers get away with paying them less) is that it's impossible to get groups of women to stick together on ANYTHING, let alone anything that might involve a little initial personal risk before things are ultimately straightened out and this archaic pay disparity between men & women in the US workforce is resolved. Can you imagine the kind of clout MTs in this country would have if they all stood firm together and demanded that they be paid fairly for a job that not just anyone with a PC and a set of headphones can do? A few years ago when HIPAA first came about, we should have taken that and run with it, when it comes to securing our profession on US soil. We didn't do it then, but I think if we were to dig our heels in, and start writing and talking to the right media, we could still use HIPAA to our advantage. Think about it.
What kind of alternate careers can MT's transition into?

Guys, I've finally made up my mind that the profession that we used to know is gone and is never coming back.  The industry leaders have made it their business to turn MT's into the equivalent of sweatshop workers, and I don't find that dynamic at all appealing. 


Can any of you give any suggestions as to what types of careers we might transition into and make a decent income?  I'm polishing up my resume now, but I fear that I've stayed in this industry for far too long and have handicapped myself from being able to take advantage of any other career opportunities that might exist out there. 


Any and all feedback would be appreciated. 


I had a person sound really interested in changing careers and doing this...
until I mentioned that she had to take a really reputable course in this field and that it would cost a fair amount of money but that for this price they would mentor her into a position, and not to pay for a course that offered less than this if it were what she really wanted to do, and this changed her mind quickly.  She didn't know it would cost her!
Time to switch careers. I did and life is much less stressful.
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But it does open our options to move on to careers rather than joe-jobs
and bring people the respect they deserve.
Legal or what? IC help.
OK, I need some IC help please? I just quit my IC position and was told after the fact that I would NOT be paid for my last 30 days of working because I did not give proper notice per contract.   Well to make a long story short I didn't sign a contract.  So what would you seasoned ICs do?  
This is not legal
Sorry but this is not legal and if you get caught it can be insurance fraud with big consequences.  Legally and morally you should not be on his insurance coverage, if you chose to stay on it, live with yourself and the fear of "getting caught".   This is where our morals are going down the tube in this country.  Lie and cheat to get what we want and something for nothing. 
Med-Legal
if anyone does work for CMLS doing med-legal docs? If so, any feedback, good, bad, or indifferent would be appreciated. Thanks!
What I was doing is legal. sm
I was using a trial version to see if I liked it. I paid to have the complete 2003 version put on my new computer. I would not use a bootleg version software for work. That was my point. However, I hate to pay that much to put it on my son's computer just so he can take a single high school class. I may have to work it so he can use my computer to send his work in, because he needs Word format.
Regardless of whether it's legal or not, I think
At a time when hundreds of thousands of American jobs have been lost, with surely more to come this year, sending ANY job overseas that could be done by a better-qualified American is wrong.

Of course, they're not going to outlaw offshoring. But it needs to stop being such a cash cow for American businesses. Many of them know what they're doing is wrong, but do it anyway in order to make more money for themselves. Or they do it because they don't have the backbone to stand up to medical institution management who cuts MT expenditures because they basically know little to nothing about MT. To them it's just something they can easily cut without any guilt, because they don't have to face those workers every day in person.

The government needs it pointed out to them that there are at least 2 major benefits to taxing the offshoring of American work: (1) More money paid in taxes by big business, who can afford it. (2) Fewer Americans out of work, and once again paying taxes and contributing to the economy again, instead of having to RECEIVE money from the government in order to survive.
Regardless of whether it's legal or not, I think
At a time when hundreds of thousands of American jobs have been lost, with surely more to come this year, sending ANY job overseas that could be done by a better-qualified American is wrong.

Of course, they're not going to outlaw offshoring. But it needs to stop being such a cash cow for American businesses. Many of them know what they're doing is wrong, but do it anyway in order to make more money for themselves. Or they do it because they don't have the backbone to stand up to medical institution management who cuts MT expenditures because they basically know little to nothing about MT. To them it's just something they can easily cut without any guilt, because they don't have to face those workers every day in person.

The government needs it pointed out to them that there are at least 2 major benefits to taxing the offshoring of American work: (1) More money paid in taxes by big business, who can afford it. (2) Fewer Americans out of work, and once again paying taxes and contributing to the economy again, instead of having to RECEIVE money from the government in order to survive.
legal
Have you thought of doing legal transcription for a company? I don't know of any, but I wonder if there aren't some out there? Makes sense. Hope your travels are fun!
Of course it's legal - It's Your Job
Are you working for an MTSO?  They may even decide to put you on a new account every other day!  Yes, they can do that.  Have had it done to me many times.  Had to get used to it.  You have not really given this a lot of time.  With time comes experience and $$.  You will become more knowledgable and faster at what you do.  It does really matter whether they did it now or later, you would still be on a new account that you did not know.  Besides, you said yourself you are struggling, what if you like the new account better!!!
The last of my brood will be legal age when I'm your age.
Originally, we had planned on retiring from our jobs and being done raising kids by 40 years old.  It didn't work out that way!   LOL  There's something to be said for having kids later in life after your career is established and you've learned patience.
Legal transcription
Has anybody transcribed legal notes?  If so, did you find easier or about the same as medical?  Just curious.
Legal Transcription
It depends what type of law is involved. Patent/tax is dull and boring. I worked for years as a legal Transcriptionist for an auto company in product litigation. This was not boring. As far as difficulty, medical transcription has much more to learn.
Call Legal Aid and sue her
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Legal action
First of all, my condolences to you and your wife. I feel for you. I lost an adult child 14 years ago. Among the many aspects of grief, the realities of your deceased child's legal affairs can be a nightmare. I am not a legal expert and I don't know if any legal changes have been made in the past years. At the time our son died he left behind a student loan for $13,000.00 and a personal loan for about $5,000.00. He was over the age of 21 when he signed for these loans. It was a nightmare for me and my husband. These creditors hounded us and threatened to get the money from us even though our son was 23 at the time of his death. One creditor even tainted our credit report because my son and his father had the same name. It was a complete nightmare for a couple of years. We sought legal advice, send copies of the death certificate to the creditors several times, and eventually things got straightened out. In your case you have an individual who claims money is owed to him. Did you daughter have a will? I assume she was still legally married. I would definitely seek legal advice. I doubt this individual can force you to pay on her debt if there indeed was one. However, you can stop the harassment by legal means. Seek legal counsel. The last thing you need is this aggravation. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
not a legal anything anymore
You really need to speak with an attorney about this. I see several issues: 1- she was not divorced, as I understand it, so her husband might have rights to the m/c; 2- Dependant on the existance (I spelled that wrong huh) of a will, who knows who actually owns the bike; but, 3- if the bike is in her name on the title, and there is no leinholder, odds are, the seller has no legal footing (unless there's a contract of sorts with receipts to verify his legal standing).... it boils down to, talk to an attorney in your state, laws vary so much state to state.

I'm so sorry for your loss, and so sorry this had to pop up to get in the way of your grieving and healing process.
Has anyone ever done legal transcription? sm
Just wondering what it is like, how you get into it.  Thanks for any info!  Have a great day.
Legal Transcription
Yes, I have done legal transcription before I became an MT. I absolutely loved it! It wasn't just depositions (which weren't that bad to me), but letters, all court documents, everything involved in a legal office. I had no problems with it. This was about 10 years ago. It was a temporary position, and I was later offered a permanent position with them which I would have taken in a heartbeat had I not been pregnant for my now-9-year-old son and in the process of moving. Actually, at the time I worked there, it was considered a legal "word processor" but most of the work was transcription from tapes. It was great!
No legal training, but...
I did have secretarial and word processing experience. I think my average wpm back then may have been about 80-90 wpm. I would definitely recommend it to anyone who likes to type/transcribe and is good with the English language, grammar, and spelling!
It probably is legal but certainly not ethical.
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Legal issue
Received an email from the company with an attachment that says we have to sign it, giving them the right to access at any time our email and computer files.  We do not have email through the company and the computer is mine, not theirs.   Why would I be required to sign this to keep my job?  It's none of their business what's on my personal computer or what's in my emails!!!
Legal issue
They have absolutely no right to your private emails or personal files. If it is your computer, they have no legal right to access it in any way, actually, without your permission.

Check with an attorney.....I did.
Legal issue
My business attorney said NOT to sign such an agreement. They are free to access my MQ computer but not my personal computer. We have confidential financial data on there.
Not exactly ethical, nor is it legal. nm
 
I was told that it's not legal.
You have to own the CD of the music you're downloading to your MP3 player. It's the same as burning copies of movies and CDs for people, which is not legal either.
legal proceedings sm
I was told by one MTSO that once they sign it, "they own it," but I never did aspire to that rule. I called each client individually before I changed a report to "save them" from making a mistake. I believe that most lawyers would go to any length to pin an error on anyone. I also did court transcripts for awhile and the lawyer asked the doctor on the stand how he dictated his reports, to whom and what the initials at the end of the report were. The report ended up being transcribed at a service I used to work for via their telephone system. I do not know the outcome of the case or any other involvement, as I only did part of the transcript, but believe me, you should worry. I don't want to lose everything I've built up in my life to greed. Be really careful, especially when someone else can edit what you did under your initials. This is why I am so against "editing" and worry about how much anything I transcribe could be altered. I always refused to give out "disks" accompanying my dictation, stating that I would not allow "altering" of my transcription. Think I'm being an old "fuddy duddy" I am sure, but I can sleep at night. Be aware that this is a sue-happy world. Would love to hear if anyone ever experienced going to court. Please come forward or was asked to alter a record that was going to court.
Legal Transcription

Hi,


How would a person go about getting into legal transcription from medical transcription? Would you have to go to school for it or is there an easier way? 


Thanks in advance.