Learn proper English...
Posted By: Recruit in India then on 2005-09-07
In Reply to: Come to India, lots work for you. - No
YOU BE HAPPY THERE - Perhaps you be stupid?
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Either you know proper English or you don't. It's not something you turn on and off. nm
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...your E-mails have to have proper English and punctuation.
Am I alone?
I have a theory about grammar, proper English going the way of
the dinosaur. I am beginning to think that with all the ESLs who cannot speak English, that everyone else has totally forgotten how to conjugate verbs, have no idea what sentence syntax means, understand the relationships of nouns to verbs, etc. I am wondering how long it will take before no one makes much sense and it really bothers me. I see paragraphs where truly, it is difficult to tell exactly what is being said, what relates to what. I long for the days when I had an ESL who wanted me to correct her, even to the point of completely reworking her sentences to sound better.
If the dictators could speak proper English and enunciate clearly,
if the supervisors didn't bounce MTs off of QA in less than a week and then gripe at everyone about leaving blanks, if the account specs were clearly delineated, if the pay was worth a darn, if the QA feedback was constructive and consistent, then maybe the MTs would care about quality and loyalty. 
Sorry, but my account goes by proper English grammar rules
not that made-up garbage from the AAMT.
In all fairness, it is a known fact that English is the hardest to learn sm
How many Americans say BP was 120 SLASH 80. Slash? How about over?
With ESLs we have no idea what their native language is like unless we speak it. It may be 120 by 80 for them and they are translating.
I don't know about you, but growing up my plan was to be a translator for the UN. To that end, I took Latin, Spanish, French, German and some Russian. I was a straight A student in these, but I have to tell you, it was not easy. All of them have "gender" to every noun which in turn governs the formation of adjectives and pronouns and even such things as "a" or "an" take gender. Sometimes even verbs take gender. English only has remnants of gender (a boat is a she, as an example).
There are also plenty of ESLs who speak more than two languages and English is only one of them. That adds to the confusion for them because gender isn't consistent. One language may have a male moon and a female sun, while the other is the opposite. In German, the verb needs to be the second word in the sentence and comes before adverb. The above languages frown on more than two adjectives for a noun, whereas English doesn't care. In English you can string together many adjectives if you want to, but this would be considered linguistically incorrect in other languages. Verbs have declensions and by and large, the cases stay the same across the board. English just think of eat, eaten and ate as an example of an exception and we have many such exceptions.
I catch myself saying that English is spoken just as it is spelled...well sometimes, but laugh isn't spelled laff.
Oh and you gotta love UK doctors...eeestroh gen spelled oestrogen comes to my mind.
ESLs can be incredibly frustrating. I know this, I have recently worked on an account with 80+% ESLs, most of whom were rather poor as they go. The fact remains, you have to either find yourself a job where there are no ESLs, which is becoming increasingly difficult, or learn to live with them. Some of my very favorite dictators of all time have been ESLs, partly because I struggled with them and when it just "popped" in my head they were easier than most Americans, and oh so redundant, they made me a lot of money with normals.
I will say that I believe that more money should be paid to MTs when the account is very heavily ESLs because they take a lot more time.
of course they speak english, with an accent but they speak British-English quite well.
And I can't speak Indian so I guess they have an edge don't they?
Proper education? LOL
This is not a regulated or licensed industry. There is no "proper education".
MT schools give a beginner level of knowledge and maybe a little touch on doing dictation but there's no "proper education" to be had here.
I've done this 25 years. I've never had "proper education". I was trained on the job. I was an EMT when I started my first MT job.
And please, stop comparing MTs and nurses like attorneys and paralegals. Those ARE regulated industries. Certification is necessary and a degree necessary.
Get over yourself. ROFL
and maybe some proper spelling
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Proper way to write
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There was a post with the proper
That's all. Nothing real juicy or anything. 
I would spell it out; don't know what is proper
what's so funny about proper transcription? nm
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How about constructing some proper sentences?
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med-surg floor. It's not a proper name. NM
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people who are attracted to something that is not proper.
Instincts are not always in one's best interest and to follow those interests doesn't make it right.
Who decides proper? If these two cowboys sm
lived alone with each other and didn't get married and pretend they weren't gay they still wouldn't be proper, right? They couldn't win for losing your book,right? It's views like your that push gay kids to committ suicide rather than live in YOUR world and deny how they were born. And they are BORN that way and here's how I know-who would CHOOSE such a behavior knowing how half of society would shun them??? Who would CHOOSE to be ridiculed and made fun of? Who would CHOOSE to be judged the rest of their lives not on who they are but who they live with???? I know a lot of women married to creeps who I don't judge because of their husbands, judgement by association is cowardly. Why don't you get to know PEOPLE and judge them accordingly based on WHO they are not WHAT they are??
Proper way to submit resignation?
How much information does one have to include in a resignation? Just the date effective? Do you need to give the reasons in the resignation? TIA!
proper diagnosis!!! for my exhusband too...LOL...sm
but it isn't really funny and I'm not really laughing.....it was him or my sanity, as I posted below, and my sanity won out but you have put the proper diagnosis on it because I've been saying for 20 years, he was/is a passive aggressive.....always pointing the finger, placing blame and never looking inside himself as maybe it's him who is/was the problem......(also a triple virgo male *LOL* sun, moon, rising-ascendant).
Proper nouns get capitalized...sm
I know, I know, they all have their opinion; but as far as I know, the correct way is if they don't say the "Proper" name of the area then it is just a common noun, which does not get capitalized.
Ex:
St. Mary's Emergency Room
The emergency Room
West Central Ear, Nose, and Throat Clinic
Referred to an ear, nose, and throat clinic.
The account specifics might say different.
Here's one for you:
When you are typing your resume, and you want to say you have experience in clinic notes, do we capitalize Clinic Notes? I'm seeing it both ways. I would say "no" but want to make sure.
TIA!
Well, this is America and the proper spelling is check.
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they don't move the post to proper board....sm
the moderators may remove a post/thread but they don't replace it on the proper board - that would be your own thing to do.
HTH (hope that helps!) 
I agree with capitalizing proper nouns only. sm
That is the proper way in the English language. Unfortunately, that may not be what BOS recommends. :(
Poor sound quality, looking up proper names, sm
switching from one account to another, not enough work, repetitive stress injuries, accounts continually changing they way they want things done, uninvited guests, slow ISPs, inability to get broadband, accounts having server problems,lack of proper reference materials at hand (meaning MT word books and dictionaries), relying on Google 100%, visiting this and other boards, chocolate cravings, food cravings, extreme boredom, extreme fatigue, delirium.
If you have your own account and no longer want to do it, how long is proper notice?
I have a very small account that is way too much aggravation. They have abbreviated things so much and nickeled and dimed me to death. Plus the dictation is bad. I'm making almost no money. I am thinking of telling them they need to find someone else. How long a period of time (notice) should I give them before I'm done?
Proper or pretentious to use *AA* (assoc/arts) after one's name professionally? (nomsg)
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Black IS proper evening formal attire. Sounds gorgeous.
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way off topic wedding present question - is there proper etiquette on the amount a guest must (sm)
spend on the wedding present? I have known people who hardly know the bride and groom yet spend $75 to $100 on a present. Is this now the expected/correct amount to spend? I was inclined to spend $25. Am I being cheap?
English Ivy all over
It's in our back yard, couldn't stop it from growing if we tried. It wraps around our mailbox, which is actually very pretty.... it doesn't even die during our winters here. But it is woody, unless you get some of the ends farthest away from the dirt. Look closely and you'll see small roots sticking out from the stalk. You can either put those directly in dirt, put in water, or rooting hormone helps it take off faster. We're in the south and that stuff grows everywhere. I would give it away gladly just to cut a lot of it away. Good luck!
English
is NOT the official language. There is no official language. True, the majority speak English as their first language but it is not OUR language yet.
English
Officially maybe it isn't but the majority as you say are English. I just think some people who come here should take the initiative to learn English more than they do.
I think I get fustrated because I have a Mexican who lives nearby and came over to the U.S., as many do, illegal. She has a green card to work and all but she isn't a citizen. Well she will not study her English more and can't hardly communicate. It fustrates me because she needs to make more of an effort to learn English where not only can she be understood more but she can understand us more. She can speak English just barely.
That is where a lot of my fustration comes from with foreign dialect. A lot of Mexicans come over here and think we should learn Spanish to communicate with them. Well if they want to live in the U.S. they can learn English. Some of them do learn and you can communicate with them. But some have a chip on their shoulder that they are going to speak Spanish and we can just adapt to it or the government should make provisions for it. Well we did not ask them to come here so learn it or leave.
English
True. There are so many dialects here in the U.S. I am from the south, and I went up north and they talk entirely different. Just different accents, different ways of saying things. They looked at me like where in the heck did you come from.
But with the ESLs I just get plain fustrated because I feel like they aren't making a effort to speak where I can understand them sometimes. And some of them do make the effort. They do and you can tell. They are trying. But those others really chap my *ss.
English
I thought all foreign MD's had to pass the ECFMG (Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates). Maybe this just verifies their information insofar as medical school, etc. and clinical skills assessment. I thought they had to pass an English exam, also.
I agree -- there are too many people walking around not knowing or using the English language. If they want to live here, they should at least like our country and not fly our flag upside down, etc. AND SPEAK OUR LANGUAGE. I have no problem with foreigners coming over here. My only problem is with foreigners coming over here and not respecting our language and culture.
English yes, others no.
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English Language
Amen to that!!!
I live in South Florida and you may as well call it a foreign country. I asked a clerk at local Walmart for Phiso-dem...she had me write it on her notepad she carries around, because she doesn't speak English!!!!
English as a Second Language
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from an MT into a English Teacher
Am thinking of getting some education units (degree hopefully) to become an english teacher. I have been an MT for roughly seven years, five months give or take including schooling. But since i feel that Big Company (fourth down upper left panel of your screen, starts with "m") that says they dont outsource, but we cant be be so sure. I feel that the work is not anymore paying well right now. (maybe im just not getting the big breaks) I feel that i have to check my alternatives - cause im not getting any younger. Its tough out there but i think that god will provide.
Former MTs Teaching English
I heard that too. its in the newpaper last week, they will be looking for teacher. Man, this board is really updated.
Am i too old to be a english teacher?
is there a age requirement on being an english teacher? Or 32 is too old?
help with english phrase
permitted to don and dos his TSLO, I know it means to put on and take off, but how do you spell it? Thanks.
Knowing English as well
In your post you said "I am knew" to the transcription world. It should be new. This is just what would keep you from passing a transcription test.
Should have said English as a FIRST language. LOL
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So, English is a second language..LOL!
How can someone get a job doing this kind of work without knowing English? Just amazes me! 
Learning the English would be
a big help! They come here to make money and should learn the language. Benny Hinn does a great job with the English language when he's asking for money! so apparently it is doable.
a.m. is not English, it's Latin.
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Since when can they communicate in English?
Certainly none of the ones I've encountered in CS can!
Well, my dears it is English 101. SM
20 units of Pitocin WERE given or 20 units of Pitocin WAS given.
Twenty units of Pitocin was/were given.
What is the subject of our sentence?
"of Pitocin" is a prepositional phrase and Pitocin is the object of the phrase and, therefore is NOT our subject. "units" is our subject. Is "units" singular or plural?
It is plural and, therefore, requires a plural verb, i.e. "were."
Twenty units of Pitocin were given. -- Correct
Below is copied verbatim from the Blue Book of Grammar and is taught as part of the grade school and middle school English 101 curriculum throughout the United States. No where, in any English text book, does it state that units of measure are always considered singular or in medical transcription certain rules don't apply. It is THE RULE across the board. Those weenies at the AHDI decided to make up their own rules, print a book, and sell it to naive MTs everywhere.
Basic Rule. |
The basic rule states that a singular subject takes a singular verb, while a plural subject takes a plural verb.
NOTE: The trick is in knowing whether the subject is singular or plural. The next trick is recognizing a singular or plural verb. |
Hint: Verbs do not form their plurals by adding an s as nouns do. In order to determine which verb is singular and which one is plural, think of which verb you would use with he or she and which verb you would use with they. |
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Example: |
talks, talk
Which one is the singular form? Which word would you use with he? We say, "He talks." Therefore, talks is singular. We say, "They talk." Therefore, talk is plural. |
english turned OFF
I for sure am not going to sit and proofread my posts and sometimes fingers go where they go. If people feel the need to proofread others posts they REALLY need to get a life or a friend or something. I had another person do this to me on another board and I cannot tell you how aggravating it is. I have a 99.58% accuracy rating and make plenty of mistakes in my email posts. This is NOT WORK. This is play and the fact that you feel the need to criticize people just tells us all about YOU.
What is YOUR USUAL English?...sm
the SLANG English?
The truth will set you free and the truth is more low level income people w/o education or proper
skills to keep up their home or train their children live in trailer homes and low income housing. If that sets you off, maybe you should not visit these threads or read the posts regarding others viewpoints on trailer parks. They have zoning laws against them in many communities because they draw undesirable people are not particularly pleasing to the community as a whole, bringing property values down. If you have issues with this, seek out the government in various communities and have them change the laws. Fact is fact and you cannot dispute these facts.
English is not the national language sm
America is a melting pot and English is not and should not be the national language. I'm Native American and while I'm not happy about the influx of immigrants - which I'm sure your ancestors were - America is a melting pot and at one time English was the 'second language' around here and others had to adapt.
Deal with it. America is a safe haven and refuge for other countries. Why was it okay for your ancestors to come here but it's not okay for others to come here?
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