Know what I find interesting?
Posted By: dinosaur MT on 2005-10-01
In Reply to: FINAL update on "Direct hit to cherrypickers." - MQGuy
I'm impressed that you somehow were able to get this information. MQ offices are so... how should I put it nicely... not willing to divulge these kinds of things?
I mean, we (the noncherry-pickers) know this stuff goes on. I don't even bother to call and state my suspicions because I know they'll either not tell me the truth or your scenario will unfold. It's pretty much common sense and not worth the time... or the false hope.
I know you must be pretty bummed about about this, but at least you have a good comradery with someone in the office who tells you what's going on.
Having said all of the above, I just want to say I do love my office and know that I am getting dregs, but I do have an office that appreciates and compensates.
However, it does bug me that the MTs who won't or aren't given the chance (forced) to master the difficult doctors are going to lose in the long run. With VR and MTs who will and can do the difficult dictators (no-hope VRs), the rest will be phased out. They no longer will be needed and... that is the plan.
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Speech recognition technology shows double-digit error rate
11/30/2006
By: Jonathan S. Batchelor
CHICAGO - A study of radiology reports generated by speech recognition software at a prestigious U.S. academic medical center found that even with fully trained system users the technology was introducing significant errors in almost one out of five signed, final reports.
"We structured a study where we could look at the types of errors and frequency of errors in attending dictated reports using voice recognition software," said Dr. Ronald Dolin, who is from the department of radiology at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia.
Dolin and his team retrospectively reviewed radiology reports dictated and signed by attending radiologists from February to March 2006 at Thomas Jefferson. According to Dolin, all radiology reports at the institution were generated using PowerScribe 4.7 from Dictaphone/Nuance Communications of Burlington, MA, which had been implemented for 16 months prior to the start of the study.
A total of 395 reports, consisting of five to 10 consecutive reports from each of the 41 attending radiologists, were reviewed, according to the researchers. They categorized the dictation errors into 10 subtypes, such as missing word errors, wrong word errors, extra word errors, nonsense phrase, unclear meaning phrase, or abnormal phrase with meaning intact.
"Errors were classified as significant if they altered or obscured the meaning of the sentence in which they appeared," Dolan said.
A total of 239 errors were identified in 146 of 395 reviewed reports for an overall error rate in final reports of 37%, he reported. In addition, he noted that at least one error was identified in reports from 40 of the 41 attending radiologists at Thomas Jefferson.
The researchers found that missing or extra words that did not alter the meaning of a sentence constituted 113 of the 239 errors, or 47% of the total. This type of error was found in the reports of 33, or 81%, of the attending radiologists, Dolan said.
Other common errors reported by the scientists included the wrong word, which accounted for 21% of the total errors; typographical or grammatical errors accounted for 8.8% of the total; a nonsense phrase with unknown meaning showed up in 11% of the total errors; and an error in the dictation date presented in 2.9% of the erroneous reports.
Most of the speech recognition technology errors, 83%, did not alter the meaning of the report, Dolin noted.
However, the remaining 17% of the errors could have impacted patient care. Significant errors -- errors that could conceivably alter a patient outcome -- accounted for 40 of the 239 error total. He said that significant errors were found in 54% of the attending radiologist reports and that five radiologists had two or more significant errors.
Dolin acknowledged that he set the criteria for classification of significant errors and determined what was and was not a significant error. During a discussion of the research after the presentation, a few audience members vigorously expressed their belief that Dolin's standard for significance had not been inclusive enough.
Rather than being a condemnation of the technology, Dolin believes that his study can provide a method for Quality Assurance and continuing education in the vagaries of speech recognition software. A periodic audit of a relatively small number of radiology reports, such as five to 10 reports per radiologist, can identify significant voice recognition error patterns among the group and by individuals, and can assist in efforts to mitigate these problems, he said.
By Jonathan S. Batchelor
AuntMinnie.com staff writer
November 30, 2006
I find this interesting
and how much longer this will last. I know of 2 health care systems that are working very hard to use MTSOs in the USA and get away from Focus. Maybe it will rebound.
I find your post interesting. I am one of those that will not do this. sm
1. I teach at a local college. I teach MT classes, A&P and medical terminology. Guess what, they do not require it. Again they use my experience in lieu of it.
2. I know what position I currently hold. Again, does not need it and experience again is used in lieu of it.
3. I have 20 years of experience. Do I care if I have CMT behind my name? Really I don't. It will not make a difference.
4. I have worked in MT, QA, Management, etc. Again, did not need it do any of the above.
AAMT or AHDI as it is now callded.. they are there to sell a book to make money. They are selling a "title" to make money. However, this title makes little to no difference in the real world.
I have worked for companies that did pay their CMTs 0.5 cpl to 1 cpl line higher than people without it. Learn to negotiate is all I can say.
Your CMT certification does not keep jobs from going overseas and does not qualify you to have the knowledge to be an Editor of that type of work.
Anyone with 2 years' experience can take the test. Big deal. All companies test and I say at least half are bull. I have failed 1 test in 20 years, and then they hired me anyway because they felt there was something wrong (Thank you MTtest.com).
I have 20 years' experience. I am very good at what I do (and yes I will say this). I can also get the rate I want or tell them No Thank You.
I have worked with MTs from no experience to OMG experience. I have seen failure in both areas. The CMT would not have changed anything for either one.
A test is a test is a test. You might have a good day and pass it, or I guess you might not.
I just do not feel the need for someone to tell me that I know what I am doing.
Everyone have a great Wednesday!
I do find this an interesting comment.
They say, Have someone else transcribe it for you while you reap the lion's share of the profit. Yes, jump right in and take advantage of others. Seems that part may be true.
This job is so easy you can do it with child sitting on your lap too, what a joke, what disrespect those scammers have for this job.
I LOVEl ortho!!! I find it interesting
but then again I work for an ortho trauma doc. It never ceases to amaze me at how clumsy people are. I thought most people grew out of that "clumsy stage" after puberty. I am probably jinxing myself. Watch me fall and sprain my ankle on a pebble today. LOL
Interesting. I find it kind of obnoxious when poster calls others fools.
Then the OP goes on to say others are "negative"????? Do you find it offensive someone calls you a fool or you are acting foolish when you complain or joke about your work/manager/company? When posters respond, they are unpleasantly surprised that this would produce negativity against the OP?
go to chat room on web site and find out. i'm working but if you find out, let me know.
creepy dude.
I find most of my abbreviations here. Scroll all the way down until you find the abbreviation box.
http://www.mtchat.com/frame.php?frame=message
Well, isn't this interesting
A job ad on another board caught my eye. It stated they pay on a 65 character line plus numbers and punctutation. If they are stating they DO pay for numbers and punctuation, would that not mean that some companies are not paying for those items??? OMG, it just gets worse and worse the way MTSO's are finding new ways to screw the workers. Gee, no wonder we were told to not spell out numbers any longer.
I think it's interesting as well....
While MTs often think it's fine for them to throw out every negative they can think of about a company, they tend to freak to think a company might tell the negatives they experienced about the MT. Why is that? I understand the need for MTs to support each other, it's good for us. Yet surely we arent' so naive as to think every MT is good, skilled, and has a work ethic that should demand the kind of respect they seem to feel entitled to. In my experience, it's not always the company who is at fault, thus I take everything with a grain of salt and make my own judgements.
Yes, she has a very interesting bio
and she seems like she is a genuinely nice person. Just not a fan. (feeling a little less contrary now)
Yes, well its interesting the big 3 will be for me...
if I decide go to school, I work in Health Insurance and here a lot of words and I process claims and thought I would try a practice tape of a friend.... thanks for the help
I think it will be interesting to see how many--sm
"big stars" donate millions to the relief effort. Bono and Brad Pitt went to Africa--will they go to our South also??
VERY INTERESTING
This is probably similar to what I have heard about, called EMR (electronic medical records). I work for a very large orthopaedic clinic (as my part-time job) and I have been told that they are going to implement this in the next two years, but they expect with all the docs and everything that it will take three to five years to totally run with it. It upsets me because it will eliminate the need for Transcriptionist as well as billers. Apparently this EMR does it all. I'm trying to get my finances in order so that I can go to nursing school because I don't feel secure in the field anymore. I am a single mother and I have over 20 years experience. It's just a shame.
Interesting! I know somebody
a check for around $100.
I thought too it was just for folks who had typed on DQS, but not so!
So, the mystery continues.
interesting
Wow, that is interesting. What have your topics been? Maybe the info was too helpful and someone was threatened? Who knows!
so interesting
Your comments are so interesting to me. I have had the same experience with MQ and it has been really difficult. I've gone into debt working for them. What I don't get is why they wouldn't want us to produce. When we produce, they make money. It's a no brainer. What's the deal?
interesting
My first husband I met at a work party (I was a paramedic). He was a cop who volunteered part time. My second I met online in a chat room. He messaged and said "I'm looking for a wife" and I told him "well good luck to you" and shut him off. 9 years later here were are! My oldest son met his wife online, and I did a singles ad online for my ex and he met someone and married as well.
Interesting...
I own a service, and the ladies who transcribe for my clients are referred to as subcontractors, not independent contractors (ICs).
Interesting
If anyone has used this, please share your experience.
Interesting
I can't wait to be out in the field learning medicine everyday. I am learning now in school, but it isn't the same. I am not good about reading the news mostly because of my lack of time. Transcribing would keep me in the loop much better. I think of Oncology, and I think sadness. You are right it would be interesting to see the new technology that prolongs life.
Interesting ...
I've run across few of us with the same name in this biz. Nice, I guess, to know there's at least another out there.
That's interesting...sm
I had to have a license when I had an "office" outside of home with employees, etc., but not now since working at home. Been home for 8 years now without one and my accountant says I don't need one. I know many, many IC's at home none required to have a license. I'm certainly not arguing with you, just think that is strange.
That is quite interesting, but
I have always considered myself a pretty good judge of character. For instance, the first time I saw Mr. Mason I said that he had nothing to do with the disappearance of his fiancee, who later came to be known as "The Runaway Bride".
Anyway, I really feel that in the case of Patsy Ramsey she is innocent. (I think too that her battle with ovarian cancer began before the murder took place . . . can't remember for sure.)
Another thing, I see the photos of Van der Sloot and the Kalpos, and I can just see the horns, tails, and pitchforks as though they were part of the picture . . . I'll be surprised if it is found that they had nothing to do with the disappearance of Natalie, but no matter what I feel certain that they are up to no good.
interesting
 To see these responses. I have been in 25 years and I think it's getting steadily worse. I was single and divorced for 9 years prior, and I think those must have been "the good years"! Maybe not as much $, but a LOT less stress! At my age, I don't need it!
Interesting!!!
I did go to your link and found out it is KForce. I looked at their jobs and they do have positions for traveling transcriptionists (also for traveling coders). It looks like the MTs are needed in Pittsburgh and somewhere in Oregon. Also looks like the pay is $20/hour.
That would be fun to do.
But don't you think a hospital would send out work to a service rather than have a temp come in to do their work?
That would be interesting to know -
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Very interesting
Now I see why so many errors in reports. Some of you are tuned to the tube instead of paying attention. Yeh, Im talking about you, I know who ya are.
interesting
I am probably going to get bashed for this, but I have to say it is interesting how this thread has just totally spiraled and how it keeps going around and around with basically how hard this and that job is, and how great this or that job is, and how great this or that education is.
My experience with has been this... When I was a CNA, some of the LPNs at the nursing home would never miss a chance to gloat about how superior they were because they were LPNs and we were "just" CNAs. When I was an LPN at my first hospital job, there were those RNs who could never miss a chance to gloat at how superior they were because we were "just" LPNs. As an LPN I then worked at a medical equipment company and primarily dealt with insurance submissions, the enteral feeding line and incontinence line. At that job, I was viewed as lower on the totem pole by some because I didn't have maybe as glamorous job as someone who did marketing for wheelchairs or something like that. Now that I am doing transcription, I run into the you are "just" a typist.
I have to say that if I waited for everyone in the world to think that my job was important to feel satisfied doing it, well... it could be a long wait. I know that in each job I have had that I am making a difference to someone somewhere by doing my small part, and knowing that I am doing a good job is my own satisfaction in itself.
This whole situation reminds me of that Dr. Seuss book/movie about the star-bellied sneeches... any moms out there know what I am talking about?
Interesting...
Class and Style? I would rather have a job.
Thanks for sharing your opinions, but the bottom line is simple: people do MT training in order to have a career and income. That is why people turn to Career Step.
Speaking of class and style, you should visit the websites of various schools; it seems Career Step is winning in that department, too.
How interesting! Thank you. nm
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That's interesting
I'll have to try that.
I have been setting up one row the way I want and then doing just a Ctrl-C and pasting it into the next row. Once I get a few rows built up, I copy the block of rows and paste a block at a time.
Fortunately I have decided to let this account go so I won't have to do this much longer. If there are any radiology MTs out there looking for pretty much all the work you can handle and then some, click on the link below. It's a good account, but I have two other part-time accounts that provide enough income and I just don't need the stress.
Interesting you should say that
Actually I used to drive truck before I did MT work. Believe it or not, I make more money now than I did then. If the wheels aren't turning you make no money, just like you don't if your fingers aren't typing.
Isn't it interesting?
I find it interesting to see how everyone reacts to a message like the one posted. Years do not give you a leg up in this business, knowledge and application of it do, however. I have worked in all aspects of this business and I have come to realize that certainly not every MT with years, with a CMT, with an HIM degree or that sort of qualification makes you a good transcriptionist. It is not about time in .. it is about what you know. It is not about the technology per se, it is about how willing are you to be flexible and learn the new stuff and it is very much about showing up to do your without an attitude. It is about not cherrypicking while at work because you respect your colleagues! It is about helping those around you be better at what they do that strengthens your own resolve.
How many companies fail because they cannot find dependable help, knowledgeable help who do not put a hang nail before showing up for work and doing their shift. How many need continuing education to stay current in this business but feel it is an intrusion.
Perhaps Dee was taken out of context .. she has been in business for years and has very good things to say about her MTs. Ever been in a room with MTSOs joking about the people who work for them? Most unsavory, let me tell you!! I am not defending Dee if the quote is what she said, but I might point out too that M-TEC's reputation is a good one amongst MTs primarily and that to me is the best advertisement for a program - how well the grads have done overall. My phone rings and I get stoked about some new atrocity every single day, but I have long come to realize that I can only watch my own back and I have settled down into doing just that and to preserving my very own ability to be employable. I find it works well! I am making good money and I have pulled the knives out of my back and am finally sort of having a life!
interesting...
These are some interesting posts. I had the same thought, that maybe he thinks this career is not impressive enough, because he certainly was proud of me when I was a cancer registrar. This makes me wonder. But anyway, I am not out to impress anyone. If this is what he is feeling, then he will have to get over it. He is very academic and you may have touched on something here. I will ask him when we are talking again...
Yes it is interesting...
but you must admit that some of the questions asked are very basic. I look at the word board all the time just to see if I can figure out what the poster is asking. For instance, the posts by AJ. If this person had an ENT reference book, it would be very easy to go by what she/he is hearing, look under fracture and they could have come up with zygomatic. Less time than it takes to post and wait for an answer. Same with the other 2 questions AJ asked. Very basic. 
that's interesting
I was just checking out that site for filesanywhere.com - I gave them a call - they said they are a "webfolder" and I am checking into that - it sounds like a possibility, but any other ideas still appreciated.
Have you ever used filesanywhere or know if it works well for anyone? Thanks
Interesting...
Most cardiologists I've typed for over the years have been pretty persnickety about the accuracy or what they dictate; cannot imagine any of them putting up with badly transcribed reports. What kind of doctors must these be, I wonder. Spooky.
Interesting
So you put your phrases first, and your words second in the phrase side? How do you do this? I am horrible at reading comprehension and have read the book that came with Instant Text a million times but I still get confused on some things. I have been putting things like "anticoagulant therapy" as "anth" on the phrase side as well. Can all of these smaller entries be moved down to the bottom of the list? Any help or suggestions is welcomed. 
Interesting
I'm going to have to think about and process this. It makes total sense. It also takes away the time you would spend proofing your own document.
I'm stuck at my lph right now. I'm going to try this a little and see what happens.
Thanks!
It will be interesting to see...
I know many transcriptionists whose facilities have gone to EMR and still do traditional transcription, myself included. I think what you are referring to is that your physicians are going to EMR with possibly some type of templates or point-and-click system, etc. EMR in and of itself is not a template or point-and-click system, it simply means electronic medical record. Having electronic medical records is better for patient care. Whether transcription is affected by implentation of EMR depends on the specific facility. I hope MTs will go and research what exactly EMR is and how it may or may not affect transcription. I feel we have been left behind as far as knowledge of technology is concerned. The more I research myself and read comments on MT sites, the more embarrassed I become at how far behind we are.
Here is something interesting to know about it.
The last week, if you are at a dribble, do not take that lightly as it is that week of wages while will determine what you will receive. Also, accumulated PTO which you will be paid is also taken into consideration as your unemployment insurance income.
Interesting way to look at it...
It's TTD Inc
interesting...
as i was just going to suggest Norton 360 -- which has served me very well...
Interesting syntax. nm
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Interesting, so what company is this?
You can email it to me. I am quit intersted in these ethics, so to speak. I would like to speak with this lady personally and see how this works out for her and some of the details of such. I am wondering how she does her hiring process, as I have found some MTs do AWESOME on their tests only to do HORRID work in general. Because of this, i am looking to take over recruiting, so i would like input.
Interesting...never been an issue before..sm
He has never ever in 15 years been in trouble. I can also say that had I been home, the second would never have happened as the fear of God would have laid down immediately the first time as they have been raised knowing that school is their job until they graduate, no ifs or buts about it, they are there to learn and follow the rules. He knew he could get away with her from her and fully expected her to talk us into no harm no foul and she took free advantage to tell all 4 children that if they loved her they would not tell us. LOL
your post was one of the more interesting
posts i've read in a long time, and amusing, sorry I didn't comment. As for dinner, tuna casserole and oreo cookie pie oh and my puppy says hello. 
Interesting you bought this up. sm
So I'm sitting and typing the other day, all happy and cozy, and I feel the cat brush against my leg under my desk and lay across my foot.
And then I realize, I don't have a cat.
So I yank my foot very quickly but get it caught instead under the foot pedal, which I promptly kick clear across the room. Fortunately, it--and it's rudely detached cable--survived.
The "cat" turned out to be a detached piece of carpeting which I had glued to the side of my desk to keep me from knocking my knee. I'm sure my neighbors are still wondering where all the screaming came from...
Interesting Question
The only other job I worked where I got paid by production was in a sewing factory(definitely blue collar). But every time we picked up a bundle, we tore a ticket off it for our particular job. We knew when we completed that stack of 20 side seams we would get $3. For the stack of 20 button holes we knew it would be $1.50. 20 cuffs, $5.25. We knew exactly what we were getting it and why we were getting it. Funny how we don't expect the same for our professional jobs.
Interesting web site...
http://www.alphadictionary.com/index.shtml
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