In all fairness, NAFTA
Posted By: l on 2007-01-30
In Reply to: good ole' govt - outsourcing
introduced and pushed by former President Clinton began the whole process of offshoring. At one time, the gov't believed that more products and services would be purchased by overseas companies if we sent work there way. Big laugh. Recently, under President Bush, congress jointly devised a plan to expand the NAFTA to include CAFTA as well as Australian and Eastern countries. Go figure. Sometimes I think it is not so much the Presidents but Congress whose only thought is padding their own pocketbooks. Remember, many congressmen/women and senators all come from states that offshore heavily.
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Funny, her hubby was the one who signed NAFTA,
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In all fairness...sm
to the OP, and with the assumption that overseas MTs are not allowed to post on this site, and with the OPs message still being here, I can only assume that she is within the USA. Perhaps some of us are jumping to conclusions by the way she wrote her post that she is from India, which may not be the case at all. I have a daughter-in-law that is of Japanese decent, but an American citizen. She is educating herself in many college courses, including English as a second language. She does well with it and I am very proud of her and all she has accomplished. It still remains that the English language is very difficult to learn and communicating may not come so easy for some. Perhaps the OP is an American citizen, as well, and just has difficulty expressing herself verbally. That does not mean that she cannot type what she hears, though. Don't get me wrong, I am just as much against outsourcing to third world countries as much as any MT on this site. I am just saying that we should not jump to conclusions without all the facts. Just because someone writes a poor post, does not mean she is from India and after our jobs. Again, her post is still on this site, which I doubt it would be if she was from India. this is just my opinion and not looking to start an argument. just looking at all the facts, which is why I answered her question in the first place.
and in all fairness, that's just one side of it, the other...
can be found at the aforementioned site above in the 'see inside' post.
In fairness to all posters, if you are a MQ poster, please
In fairness to all posters, if you are a MQ poster, please kindly post only NEW information on the Main board and your daily information ie ran out of work already, questions about the infamous "packet", etc. on the Company board. Please note that redundant questions will be removed from the Main board. Feel free to check the archives and feel free to post your daily information and queries on the Company board.
Thank you,
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There is is a "giant sucking sound" at the borders per Ross Perot when NAFTA was passed.
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In all fairness, it is a known fact that English is the hardest to learn sm
How many Americans say BP was 120 SLASH 80. Slash? How about over?
With ESLs we have no idea what their native language is like unless we speak it. It may be 120 by 80 for them and they are translating.
I don't know about you, but growing up my plan was to be a translator for the UN. To that end, I took Latin, Spanish, French, German and some Russian. I was a straight A student in these, but I have to tell you, it was not easy. All of them have "gender" to every noun which in turn governs the formation of adjectives and pronouns and even such things as "a" or "an" take gender. Sometimes even verbs take gender. English only has remnants of gender (a boat is a she, as an example).
There are also plenty of ESLs who speak more than two languages and English is only one of them. That adds to the confusion for them because gender isn't consistent. One language may have a male moon and a female sun, while the other is the opposite. In German, the verb needs to be the second word in the sentence and comes before adverb. The above languages frown on more than two adjectives for a noun, whereas English doesn't care. In English you can string together many adjectives if you want to, but this would be considered linguistically incorrect in other languages. Verbs have declensions and by and large, the cases stay the same across the board. English just think of eat, eaten and ate as an example of an exception and we have many such exceptions.
I catch myself saying that English is spoken just as it is spelled...well sometimes, but laugh isn't spelled laff.
Oh and you gotta love UK doctors...eeestroh gen spelled oestrogen comes to my mind.
ESLs can be incredibly frustrating. I know this, I have recently worked on an account with 80+% ESLs, most of whom were rather poor as they go. The fact remains, you have to either find yourself a job where there are no ESLs, which is becoming increasingly difficult, or learn to live with them. Some of my very favorite dictators of all time have been ESLs, partly because I struggled with them and when it just "popped" in my head they were easier than most Americans, and oh so redundant, they made me a lot of money with normals.
I will say that I believe that more money should be paid to MTs when the account is very heavily ESLs because they take a lot more time.
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