In Word, take the character count (with spaces) divided by 65... SM
Posted By: RockinMT on 2008-08-19
In Reply to: Thank you. Is there a way to accurately (m) - MT
that will give you an accurate line count, but you'll have to write the character count down for each and every report before you finish and send the report. I put a button on my tool bar that I just clicked to bring up the document counts and then I just kept a log that wrote down job number and character count for each report. Then at the end of the day just add up the characters divide by 65 and you've got your line count for the day. Kind of a hassle, but worth it in the long run.
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0.12/cpl, macros count as 2 characters, backspacing is given to us as 1 character. No spaces. Aut
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No, I do not have Word, Just Works that does not count spaces.
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In Word you take the line count with spaces SM
and divide it by 65. That will give you your line count. So, if my report had 11,700 characters with spaces, that would equal 180 lines. Multiple 180 lines x. 0.11 (your cost per line) and that would equal $19.80 for that particular report.
Good luck!
Chickadee
extended word count counts spaces. nm
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Take the character count divded by 65 and that will give you your line count.
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Word "lines" divided by 65
Of course you made out good, you're taking lines that aren't 65 characters long and giving yourself credit for 65 characters. I don't want to sound harsh, but that's cheating.
If you use Word to count the LINES in a document, as one poster mentioned, you get a count of all the lines -- include blank lines, including Dear Dr. SoandSo, Sincerely, -- all those things are counted as lines. They're usually referred to as "gross lines" because it's just the gross number of lines in a document.
But if you calculate "Sincerely," as a 65-character line, I don't want to sound harsh, but that's just cheating. The word "Sincerely," is not 65-characters long.
Your company counts the characters and divides by 65 to come up with the number of 65-character lines.
Eggs come in different-sized cartons. If the store told you a carton of 6 eggs and a carton of 12 eggs was 2 dozen eggs, they'be cheating you. You certainly wouldn't want to pay for 2 dozen eggs, you're only getting 18. So 2 cartons of eggs is not necessarily 2 dozen eggs.
You see what I mean?
I make 9 w/o spaces but I get every character - sm
on the page, regardless if I typed it or not, plus a cover page that is macro'd. However w/o the spaces I'd say I am out an average of $200 a month. Since you will not get headers/footers, it will probably be a little more. I try to template up as much as I can but only a handful of docs actually say the same thing every time. I figured it out once and I think the 9 w/o spaces equaled 7.75 with spaces. I get fairly regular raises though and with any luck get bumped up to .10 in the Spring (at least I am going to ask for it). You don't say how much experience you have, but if you do not have much I would go for it. I have been looking on an off for a while for a new job but am very limited as I have dialup (no DSL here, and most companies don't want satellite), so I am between a rock and a hard place. Any jobs I do find with dialup offer .07 cpl, unless it is real easy work I don't want to go that low. Make a list of pros and cons and go from there.
Why would a company pay by character when they also pay for spaces?
nm
65 character line with spaces
TIA
I think it is a 65 character line without spaces but doesnt that mean you have to type a lot more to
get your lines in so you really arent making 9.5 cpl in fact right. I am not sure I understand when you dont get paid for spaces how much you really lose from that. Is it 20% a report or what percentage do you lose. If a report is 100 lines with spaces then what do you really get paid for on those 100 lines without spaces. I think that is what I mean. I am just tring to figure out how much longer you have to work to get your lines in at 1000 lines a day without spaces versus 1000 lines a day with spaces. Seems it would take quite a bit longer.
Do the math. I am figuring on a 65 character line with spaces. SM
Getting credit for headers and footers or not, doesn't make much difference in the math. It's simply not possible. Even if you figure she gets 10 free lines per report for headers and footers, she still would have to type 300 lph for 10 hours a day and her hands would virtually never have to leave the keyboard!
Her pants are on fire!
I was referring to gross 65 character per line with spaces, sm
but again, it was very grueling, but possible. Granted, I had no life besides the keyboard.
Sorry- meant ඉ character line w/spaces!" - NM
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No, it is 65 character lines including spaces. The only canned text is my own.
I get mostly the same dictators on the same account every day. I do have carpal tunnel starting, so, gotta get it while I can.
What the heck does getting paid by a 55 black character line?? Does this mean without spaces and doe
You just never know if this is a trick to somehow rip you off of lines. I am just very skeptic of it since I have never heard of anyone using this formula before.
depends if includes headers, spaces, one or the other, character line, etc.
nm
Character count
I have no tip, but my co is also doing that. UGH!
Character count tips
The hospital/clinic I work for is changing the counting method from gross lines to character count. Does anyone have any tips on increasing production using total characters? Thanks
I used character count, 65 characters. What I
personally like about The Abacus is it will create an invoice for you, listing each document and the characters, lines, however you want to count it. It gives you choices on how to count.
New here & ? regarding byte vs character count
Hi everyone. I am new here but not new to medical transcription. Very happy I stumbled upon this board. I am always looking to compare notes with other MTs.
Now, I know this question has probably been asked a million times on the site arleady, but since I am new and don't know my way around very much, forgive me for repeating.
Now my question/situation: I was asked to submit a proposal to a clinic yesterday. I found out that their current company figures lines based on bytes/65= 1 line, not my typical characters/65= 1 line. It has been a very, very long time since I have dealt with byte count - can someone refresh my memory and help me with ideas on how to address the difference with the new clinic?
Thanks in advance for your assistance, and I look forward to reading more posts on the site. Hope you all have a great day.
How do I figure out what the character line count is--sm
if my document has 1,086 characters and 56 lines?
And don't forget you have to divide the character count by 65 :)
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That's true - I could just total the character count sm
and just divide by 65 once. D'oh!
DQS does count spaces
DQS counts everything on your text page including spaces. However, it does not count anything imported into the ADT field. It does count anything the MT types into the ADT field.
My problem with your post is that your office actually reduced your line rate because they said you would be making more money? That is really messed up. Here's why: Even though many ADT fields are autopopulated, these are characters we would normally get paid for. We still have to listen through the dictator giving the information, information I was able to type in no time and get paid for it. Then there are the times we have to do searches and sometimes be very creative with the searches and sometimes have to sift through multiple admissions to be sure we have the right selection. Then there are the times the doctor keys in data for the wrong admission and we have to recognize and fix.
Therefore, this simple ADT field and the fact we do not get paid for it, IMO, takes away whatever production assets the program offers. I have been on DQS for a year and am lucky to produce the same as I was on my old platform. Since I know everything in the text field is counted, the only reason I can figure is the ADT field.
Any MT who was cut back in pay when put on DQS should absolutely be upset because I don't think anyone's production has really been increased that substantially.
DQS does count spaces, but you definitely deserve the 1/2 cent increase.
Chartscript.net does not count spaces. nm
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Gross line count without spaces?
I've been corresponding with an MTSO, and she tells me that she pays gross line without spaces. Is there such a thing? I have both Abacus and MPCount, and neither of those programs has an option to count gross lines without spaces. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! 
Need to count gross lines only w/o spaces, sm
Used Sylcount free download but it expired. Any alternatives. Did not like Practicount. Need to count gross lines only. How do I do that using MS Word?
Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
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What is the average line/hour for a 65 character line with spaces? NM
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Someone told me that basically it mean without spaces so I guess that makes sense if your only count
6 character counts as a word
What would that calculate to be? Thanks for your help. I do not know many companies that pay by the word. I guess I will just have to see what my first pay check looks like. Thanks!
Courier 10 in Word is a 72 character line.
I was offered a position for the same as you mentioned and declined. I found a position that pays 10 cents a gross line with Courier 12, 65 character line.
You do need to remember, a line is a line when paid by gross line. So, if you initials are the only characters on a line, you are paid for that full line.
If you are typing in Word or WP, every character will be counted.
If you are being paid by keystroke, that would be different, like the other poster said.
I once worked for a company that paid per 1,000 characters.
My beginning rate was $1.25/1,000 characters (0.00125/character) which was the same as 0.08/line.
I was gradually raised to $1.85/1,000 characters(0.00185/character)which was the same as 0.12/line.
Hope this helps! Good luck!
why on 1 computer for the same report would the word count be different in Word? (inside)
Like on 1 computer with word the document was 27000 character counts w/spaces
and the other computer (the one i type this account on says 13,000. How can there be such a difference with Word being the same? I am baffled.
IC, by line, 68-72 character spaces/line
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Calculating lines using Word Count in Word
I have recently started a job where lines are calculated using the Microsoft Word word count tool. I think I read that you get cheated out of lines if a company counts this way. Is this true?
In Word 2007, you can add Word count to the status bar.
Right-click the status bar and select Word count. Once it appears on the status bar, you can double-click it to bring up the statistics dialog box that shows characters. You can also find this option on the Review tab, Proofing group, Word Count.
That only flags spaces as an error. You cannot set Word to
automatically space for you. Replace is good, but watch out for values and things like Mr. when you do that.
That only tells the grammar checker to flag spaces. Word does not auto space.
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Word count: 824 lines. DocuCount count: 897 lines.
I just counted the same file in Word and then in DocuCount, and DocuCount was higher than Word.
Just as an aside.
Word Count
If you use the Word count tool to calculate characters and then divide by 65 or whatever your company uses for this, it is fairly accurate. However, if you are calculating just *lines* with this tool, please keep in mind that it counts ALL lines, including blank lines between paragraphs, etc. This is probably what the poster below has experienced. It is not accurate for counting just lines.
Did you use the word count (m)
in Word that is under properties where it lists "word count", "line count", etc.? It doesn't look like it's completely accurate if you go by that line count. Or did you go by character count? Maybe that's more accurate?
If you are using word, it will count your
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Word line count
The company I IC for told me to use the word count in the Word, divide the characters with spaces by 65 to get my line count. Are you guys saying that this is not accurate? The owner is a very honest person, so if this is not accurate, I'm sure she does not know it. I think this is how she bills her clients as well.
line count in word
Use the characters with spaces count and divide by 65.
How can you count your lines in Word, I used
to use the word count in Word and then divide it by something to get a standard line count for that report. Has anyone done this before? I forgot the way to calculate when working in Word.
I use both DQS & Word and avg about the same line count.
Two separate part time accounts. I really don't see much difference.
line count in word
 Microsoft word line count - what is the name of it and where can I buy it. Also,on a dictaphone, how can i tell how many minutes of dictation i have left.
Word line count
This is what i actually meant. i get paid per gross line and i need to figure out how many lines i am typing per day. someone told me there is a program for that
Do numbers how up in MS Word Count
Hi. Does anyone know if number characters show up as word count in MS Word? I'm doing a lot of them in tables, etc. as well as a lot of symbols. Just curious.
Thanks,
Terry
Word count program
I have an older model puter that is slowly going up and have word 97 count program on it. I am looking for something that is compatible with that - that also does all headers and footers - not just the header and footer on the first page that I can put on my new puter. I have checked in to SPellex and that is really slow counting. I also checked in to Abacus, which was fast and pretty accurate; it actually gave me a little more on a few of my reports as a trial run. ANyone have any ideas on this. Thanks for any help.
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