Immigration, overseas labor and we US citizens...sm
Posted By: Pondering one on 2007-06-26
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Here's a point to ponder.
US citizens get upset over illegal aliens stealing jobs and employers state "we hire them because they do the work cheaply". US citizens are demanding to congress that this stop (which I 100% support!).
US citizens don't get outraged, though, when jobs are outsourced out of the US for the same reasons and demand to their lawmakers that it stop.
Why not? Regardless of how you look at it.... illegal immigrants and cheap overseas laborers take away American jobs initially done by Americans. Do we not stand up to overseas labor only because we don't directly pay for healthcare for their people by giving them Medicaid, give them foodstamps, housing, etc? We do in a way give them all of this by giving away our jobs... therefore allowing them to make money to buy these things but yet the American citizens are left without jobs, healthcare, etc.
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They use overseas labor.
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Regarding US companies using overseas labor
Maybe we can start by not utilizing their services and getting the word out.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/popups/exporting.america/content.html
ProScript Documentation Services does not send work overseas or employ any overseas MTs. (nm)
You need to contact US Immigration (sm)
I would not do anything before you find out if it is okay first. You could jeapordize your case. The US Immigration has a 1-800 number you can call. Also, you could ask an attorney.
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Labor Stats from Dept of Labor for MT inside
This is quite interesting...it is too long to post here but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the statistics. Thanks!
tp://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:eGxrU1X5lOEJ:www.bls.gov/oco/ocos271.htm+how+much+to+become+certified+Medical+Transcription&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
Help citizens, yes. Do everything for them that they should have done themselves?
NO!!! If each of them had filled up empty milk jugs and their bathtubs or kiddie wading pools with water when they were told to, they wouldn't be standing in line. We should be helping those who cannot help themselves, not those who refuse to help themselves.
about 25-33% for all US citizens as I know it....nm
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Citizens against Medical Offshoring
spread the word - become proactive - fight for our jobs I found this website this morning
http://www.ericacodes.com/camio.html Also, check out the discussion list - its a little outdated (couple of months) but everything needs a fresh start, a little boost somtimes
Missing kids/citizens involvement
Thank God that Shasta was found, I don't care who did find her, as long as she's safe. Wish the same could be said for her brother. Once again, if this does not speak for the need to lock those GPS tracking bracelets on the ankles of these sum..could think of an even better body part to put them on and tightly!
I thought the poster was talking about citizens
who were born in another country. Offshoring is another problem that allows corporations to cut costs to get bigger bonuses created by people in power who us little guys can't fight. It's a crooked system and the rich get richer and the poor stay poor. When's the last time you have had a raise? You know why you will never see a raise. They can ship the work offshore for cheaper than what we are doing it and as the offshore companies grow older and wiser, we may even have to take a cut in pay to compete. Thank you government for that.
What's really sick is when American citizens bad-mouth the USA
Govt should help the citizens in natural disasters
I disagree 100%. If you dont have the govt to turn to, who can you turn to? What are we paying taxes for..to continue a never ending war around the world? What is FEMA for..to pay big salaries to Bush's cronies? My gosh..if families didnt get water and food in time, I say government get your stuff together you need to help the citizens of America.
I would take responsibility for my actions and I would not call citizens of the country
criminals if there is no evidence to hold them and I personally have no evidence to present to the law to hold them. I am not one for the spotlight even without grieving for the loss of my child. I certainly would not get up on world-wide TV and insult the people conducting the search and investigation for my missing child. And I would not be in the frame of mind to get all made up with glitter eye makeup and false eyelashes to tell other countries not to accept "criminals" who the legal system did not have evidence to hold. She is a loon.
you don't go shooting off your mouth calling citizens corrupt and criminal in a country you are visi
and you felt was okay to send you daughter to go to so she could drink at the age of 18. NO ONE WITH COMMON SENSE WOULD OFFEND THOSE SHE WAS EXPECTING HELP FROM. Mrs. Twitty has clean lost her mind if there ever was one there in the first place - considering she sent her daughter to Aruba at the age of 18.
As U.S. citizens wages fall/jobs are lost, expect your taxes to increase.
and one day, the editors will be overseas, as well, eventually. Glad you are not stressing over it like me.
Also, they could be done overseas..
I proofed Indian work a few years ago and they sound like similar reports--blanks, everything wrong.
For everyone's info, the clinic in town that outsourced to India still dislikes the quality intensely, after all these years, but still uses them because they are cheaper. Go figure.
overseas
The doc that I work for now used to use a service and paid 9cpl.
re:overseas
We could do this, but then we'd have a small choice of credit cards, cell phone providers, computers, toilet paper, paper towels, food in general, entertainment such as cable and internet providers, clothing, tires, and I could go on and on, but what would be the point? The simple fact of the matter is that this is widespread and there's no turning back on it now. Even in our industry we have plenty of overseas working alongside of us. The way I see it, these people have families to feed as well and want to make a living for them as well. I've worked with U.S. companies that employ both American and Overseas MTs and I have to say that they are more than willing to put in the time and effort to get it right. They are also willing to take English classes to do better. I just think it's time that we end this whole caste system everyone wants to push on the MT world. There is plenty of work to go around, instead of pushing them to the side, why don't we include them and help them become better at this job?
overseas
May I ask what company this is? I would like to work overseas as well.
overseas
Haven't decided yet! Maybe Spain
overseas
haven't decided yet! France maybe?
overseas
The system is not accepting the 3-digit password, after I write out my message, why not?
What are you doing for labor day?
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Not til the Wed. after Labor Day ...
here near Rochester, NY.
OUTSOURCE OVERSEAS
and you will be begging for work. get ready to brown-nose to get enough money to live on.
good luck. you could do much better.
They have to be using overseas employees...sm
So remind her that while they claim HIPAA compliance, truth of the matter is that once the records leave the US soil there's really no protection.
how did you get an overseas account in the UK?
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Has anyone ever lived overseas?....sm
A friend of mine is moving to Italy and I am really considering going with her. Just wanting to know if anyone has lived outside of the US (not necessarily in Italy, just anywhere).
Thanks
Overseas posters?
I can't find anywhere on the site that prohibts off shore MTs from posting.
jobs overseas
Personally, I do not worry about this. There are plenty of companies who hire MTs purely in the US. For other jobs, just you wait, there is going to be relocalization of jobs/services, etc in the coming years. I already see/read about towns relocalizing. I would never consider going abroad for any major medical procedures. I proudly support my local medical team. There is probably a reason that medical care is cheaper abroad.
With the comment made in this article about importing physicians, does anyone wonder why medical costs have skyrocketed? I am sure a good portion of these physicians have come over here to make all sorts of money versus what they could make in their country of origin. I am sure they would not have left their country of origin if they were doing well for themselves.
Military Overseas
When companies state no overseas applications or solicitations does that include Overseas Military?? I have DSL and we have a US Post office here on base. Curious cause i'm about to start school and want to know it wont be wasted while we are stationed overseas.
Thanks!
Overseas outsourcing SM
I don't know where you have been for the past several years but a whole bunch of people are screaming bloody murder about this to their congressmen/women. There are plenty of petitions being circulated to put a stop to foreign outsourcing. Most MTs I know have not only sent letters to congress but have called the senators from their states to complain about this. My friends refuse to see a physician who outsources medical records - and they ask up front who does the transcription and make it know that their records are not to be sent to a foreign country.
There's lots of stuff going on. Do a search on the Web and you will more than likely more than you ever imagined.
Don't kid yourself. The overseas companies are going in at 0.13 and 0.14 now. nm
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Overseas jobs?
Does anyone have any sources for info on overseas MT jobs?! I have been Googling but haven't come up with a single MT position in Australia, New Zealand, Japan, or Costa Rica -- only Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Dubai.
Thanks.
never worked overseas....
If I could get up the courage to fly over the ocean I may have been able to answer this one for ya... :)
But I dont know why you wouldn't be able to take your work with you... you just have to have access to everything you use on a daily basis... Right now I'm away from my home away from home, visiting my sister (and new niece!!!) for Christmas and here I am working away... :)
Good luck!!! and how awesome for your son
Working overseas
If you worked for an American company say in Scotland all well and good, transcribing for U.S hospitals and the work contained in the U.S., BUT if you transcribe for British or European hospitals/doctors, the work contained in those countries, it is VERY difficult. The spelling is very different. I was born and raised in Britain x25 years and when I started working here in the U.S. I found the American spelling very difficult - although less characters per word. British spelling adds a lot. Just a thought! Plus the accents are hard too. They don't say period, they say full stop which sometimes sounds like part of the text, but you have probably already experienced that. Good luck, it sounds wonderful.
They did not contract an overseas
company. The company they contracted with was sending it overseas.
Just because the records go overseas
does not mean the laws are being broken. Granted, they cannot be enforced, however, if the company doing the overseas transcription does not follow the guidelines, then something might be done. However, unless there are specific cases, you cannot say laws are being broken. I am sure their contracts state they have to abide by our laws.
It is more of a risk overseas. SM
If some company operating from an offshore country with a "store front" in the U.S., decides to retaliate against Dr. John Doe, and spreads 50 of his patient's medical records over the internet, how easy do you think it would be to track down the so-called contact (whose name cannot even be pronounced) for the transcription company who is nowhere to be found? HIPAA has now power to fine, penalize, or imprison any overseas operation because the HIPAA laws only apply here in the United States. IMO, there is a substantial safety risk in having medical records leave the country.
working overseas
Can a U.S. citizen travel while working for an American transcription company, as long as they have a legal U.S. residence? Is there any legal reason not to hire someone who likes to travel and visit foreign countries while they work? I'm not talking about off-shoring.
I don't. It is just as labor-intensive and-
you end up fixing things like changing "were" to "are", "a" to "an", that kind of thing. Easier in my opinion to type from scratch, not to mention that you are usually making half what a normal line rate is to do VR.
I am, too, wonder if it's just because of the Labor Day holiday?
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No, its cheap labor.
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7 or even 7.5 cpl is slave labor
I had a company offer me 7.5 cents recently and I said no, perservered it out, and found a great company that pays 10 cents a line and they actually care about their MTs, not treat them like a number. Hold out for what you deserve to be paid and don't compromise. A company paying 7 cents is looking for slave labor.
Slave labor
... sounds like someone is on their high horse in a third world country and expects American MTs to get with the slave labor mentality!
You can also go to the Dept. of Labor. (n/m)
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Need labor union
After 20 years in this industry I can't wait to get out of it - early retirement here I come...They want to pay highly skilled translators (which is more what we do) at rate of a typist.
Labor Board
Forget the state - go to the Department of Labor on website - I had to, my company "borrowed" from my IRA and although I got my money, I did not get my interest, cap gains etc. The labor board is helping me now, including filing charges against them for bouncing checks etc. The problem is if no one complains when the check bounces not much you can do. Bounce a check at walmart and go to court possible jail- bounce a paycheck and do nothing if they send out another to you, doesn't matter when they do, just that they do. If it happens often, don't request a new check file charges and then get your money. They won't do it again.
What you doing over the Labor Day holiday?
Happy Labor Day!
Speaking of labor, I am working today. Anyone else working this holiday? 
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