Illegals
Posted By: Oh, yeah they do-- all the time! on 2005-08-24
In Reply to: Uh YEAH, I do...because I live in south Arizona and WATCH THEM! - nm
You must live up north somewhere-- they are always climbing over the fences, running across the desert, etc., and you can see where they've been by the trail of dirty diapers, trash, cut water lines, using cattle watering holes for bathing, etc. I live in Arizona, too, and whenever there is any crime here, shootings, child kidnappings, etc., the first place they head is back across the border. Our car insurance rates are ridiculously high because they pick out a model they want to steal and across the border it goes-- especially if you have a 4 X 4, SUV, etc. The Mexican police use them for their patrol vehicles. I also worked for a local hospital and when they get sick, they flood the ERs with no insurance, of course, and the ERs are obligated to treat them. Everybody else has to sit for hours because they can't get in. Then of course, the "bleeding hearts" sign them all up for AHCCCS, which is the state welfare for health care, and they get everything for free-- while we have to pay higher health care costs to cover it. I could go on and on. I am not against people coming here LEGALLY, but the word here is LEGAL. I don't care if they are from India, China, Mexico, or where-- the word here is LEGAL. This country is just like Rome being overrun by all the barbarians, and we all know what happened to Rome. The same thing is going to happen here-- just wait.
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Ok if I must I will go in to detail here for you, Jay. And anyone else who must know. I only know about 3 LEGAL folks that are Mexican immigrants. BUT I have met MANY illegals and I will tell you why. I live in Southern Mississippi. As I am sure you know Hurricane Katrina hit this area dead center. It was indescribable. Well A LOT of illegals saw an opportunity to work and they came to this area. Well my father does disaster cleanup. He had a lot of equipment and crews who did cleanup for the state. Well he did even though it is wrong hire many illegals to work for him. I know other people too who did the cleanup who also had a whole bunch of them living on their property also and I mean a lot of them. I have met many, many illegals during that time. Not just ones who worked for my dad but others. My dad has now realized he made a mistake letting them work which is a whole other subject. He knows it is better to leave them alone let them find work elsewhere. But he learned the hard way you can't help them. I have also. But that is how I have come to say it is from exp. Experience with many of them. They seem so humble and pitiful at first. But they aren't what they seem. Most anyway. They begin to expect more and more money. They will steal you blind. The many I have met yes. Dad lost every piece of tools that weren't too large for them to fit in a vehicle. He has a 500 sq. ft. metal building that was stock full of every kind of tool and equipment you can think of he had gotten over the years. EVERY tool down to his screwdrivers were stolen little by little and no one but these illegals working had access to these tools and other things. He is having to start all over buying these things. Do you see now why I feel this way. I have known so many. I am not someone who runs their mouth without knowing what I am talking about. Oh and when I say they don't have good hygiene these people would work all day in the hot sun and you can imagine how bad they would smell and come home and have access to showers and many wouldn't take them. THAT is disgusting. I'm sorry. So yes Mr. Jay I have known quite a few illegals. How many do have YOU know?
Illegals
They don't care who they live down the road from --- they have more rights than the cop does.
I called a local hospital and was told that all illegal immigrants have FREE unlimited medical care, covered under a government program called Trailblazer. The hospital representative told me that they are not allowed to turn anyone away, so the government set up this program to partially compensate the hospital for the care of these illegal freaks. The rest of their care is passed along to private pay patients and insurances companies. The insurance companies then raise their rates to cover their losses, and fewer Americans can afford insurance. God Bless the USA --- at least if you are a foreigner. In my area, it is Arabs. They (even the illegals) free education, free medical care, free social social services, food stamps, free legal services, free housing, etc., etc., etc. Of course, we are all paying for these "free" services with our tax dollars.
I agree on the illegals but .....
they're not the only ones sucking our system dry. I live in a state where 10% of the working class pay for 90% of those freebies on the government payroll.
My mother raised two children on her own. She had a high school education, worked her butt off for everything she had, sometimes working two jobs. She NEVER asked the welfare dept for a dime. If we didn't have the money, we didn't buy it.
But no, I see those beautiful cars sitting in front of the projects. Thought they couldn't have all these expensive things and still get all the freebies. My brother and I didn't get free healthcare, free dental care, free vision care. No one came out to make sure our home was UP TO SNUFF.
Heck, we got million dollar NEW homes going up in our town, single family homes. Tearing down the OLD single dwelling homes and putting up new homes, all for the taking of those who have some reason they can't do anything for themselves, while my mom watches this all happening, knowing she didn't get the freebies and the help. She doesn't say much but BOY AM I PISSED OFF!!!!
My husband and I work for everything we have. Our kids have better than we did, some would call them spoiled I'm sure.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping any in real need, that's why God put us here.
But you know the old saying, give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish he'll eat for a lifetime. Of course, I've seen many who don't want to learn how to fish either, they just want it at their doorstep.
I will state also that the illegals I know ARE..sm
They are paying taxes so they don't get caught....albeit some of their papers in order to pay taxes are fake. They also work 2-3 jobs per person and are contributing greatly to the economic success of this country and are slowly but surely TRYING to get legal.
And you can take that to the bank!
illegals and jobs
My 2 cents. They should throw the book at anyone hiring illegals in the first place. Fine any business tremendously!
If they allow these illegals to work as citizens, they are not going to work for peanuts anymore! They will want as much as everyone else makes! There go all those jobs that we need!
Yes, America was made by immigrants but this is too many people! Why can't they allow so many people from each country?
One last thing, there are many corrupt border control guys on OUR side of the fence receiving money for allowing illegals to cross. That is the truth!
The illegals also can work at these low wages because
they live 5 or 6 families to a house. Every time you hire illegals (and if a job is bid at half what an American can do it, they ARE illegal) you are contributing to the destruction of America. Have you ever read any reports of what its like to live in a neighborhood with illegals? It rapidly declines into garbage and filth. This is the only way these people know to live. They do not care to assimilate into our society. They would rather we degrade down to their level. Enjoy that money you save. May you also enjoy a few of these families coming to YOUR neighborhood.
Oh, and don't think they just live in low income areas any more. Nah, they are spreading into the McMansion neighborhoods. 7 or 8 families per house can afford to live there, and Bank of American is oh so happy to loan them the money. Ain't American great?
Your reasoning does not make illegals ok, still
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This, in my opinion, ranks right up there with the illegals using....
your Soc Security number to work under. It's an illegal act, no matter which way you look at it. And, when "they" are tested on the phone for an interview, how is that going to fly? This whole reeks of illegality and purely a *wrong* thing to do.
I'm with you on the illegals, but paying taxes is not an insurance policy.
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Puhleez, what exactly is the government doing about illegals crossing the border?
Absolutely nothing. NOTHING! The government sanctions sending American jobs oversees, puting thousands of American workers on unemployment! So why should I or anyone else feel guilty about trying to get what we rightfully deserve?
As far as testing on the phone goes, doxie, you can be listening on an extension and write the answers down for your husband. Don't feel guilty. You're going to pay your taxes.
oh our lovely government does give illegals medicaid, foodstamps, and housing so in term we give tha
i have been through some rough times lately and had to apply for some help. there are signs, big signs, all over our offices saying "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE LEGAL TO GET HELP". so we and our government do give them our benefits whether they are legal here or not. now that is messed up. i am helping to support them so they can take away my jobs and i can't even support my kids and yes i get benefits, wow $75 a month in food stamps which lasts not even a week in a household of 6. don't get me wrong, i am thankful for any help at the moment, but i get penalized for trying to work my tail off and still can't survive.
there was recently an article in our local newspaper where one of our local school districts tried to charge $1000 a year for each illegal student enrolled. it was bulked and the illegals got a lawyer to sue for discrimination. the school district merely stated that they had to HIRE extra teachers that could speak the foreign language just to teach these children and were trying to offset some of the expenses. ridicilous!! so again our taxpayers money is paying to educate illegals as well.
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